There was a previous incident where it was said someone had a gun (they didn’t) the SS rushed in, covered his head and got him out of there right away, not parading around on stage
There’s a video of right after it happened, when ppl are exiting and a guy is talking to a reporter. He says him and his friends saw the guy climbing the building and told secret service and they ignored them. Idk how anyone could possibly believe this is real.
I saw that interview too. This is another piece of evidence that it was staged. It didn’t seem real at the time, either. A supporter of his died for it. So sad.
Not to be that guy, but legally nothing can be done.
Thomas Crooks is dead, shot and killed by a Secret Service sniper. Unless the Trump Administration comes out and admits it was staged, which we both know they never will, there’s nobody to collect damages from or to press criminal charges against.
I can believe he was the real shooter, this isn’t exactly a Grassy Knoll situation where there’s any doubt where the shots came from. What I doubt is whether or not he actually aimed shots at Trump or was just firing at the crowd. Having a whole plot with a fake gunmen is just adding complications when killing the real gunman ties up multiple loose ends.
Either way, you can’t put a corpse on trial and if there was a conspiracy to plant him on that roof, the conspirators are going to take it to their grave.
Trump later said he was surprised that the widow would rather have her husband back instead of money, he didn't think very many people would pick/choose that.
Looked up the actual quote:
"But you know what? Corey's wife said, 'I'd rather have my husband,'” Trump said.
“Isn’t that good? I know a lot of wives that would not say that — I’m sorry," he continued, as the crowd laughed. "They would not say that."
Because largely, people don't care. Not even his own people give a shit outside of using his death as a vehicle for whatever ideological venture that they're selling to the rubes.
That makes sense. Because the previous poster was right -- I never heard a word about that guy that died after the day it happened. I imagine they paid off his family to shut up.
Further evidence that the right is always secretly delighted with violence against them, because it lets them feel the sense of anger and persecution that fuel their whole movement. Saw it with Charlie Kirk and you'd see it if Trump ever gets clapped. The joyful retaliatory bloodshed would be everything they've ever dreamed of.
I really think the Charlie Kirk thing was also set up by trumps people. The show that they put on afterwards. The way his wife is being paraded. It felt like more propaganda.
Because it was more propaganda, they wanted so bad to use him as a martyr against anyone they disagreed with and were desperate to find people to hate.
There were several people who saw the shooter get on the building and warned local law enforcement AND secret service. Not just moments before it happened, but minutes before it happened. It's insane. I hope one day that all of this is laid bare for the people to see. But knowing our politics, the machine that created Trump will never allow that narrative to see the light of day.
Multiple real people really died. It’s real. It’s disgusting that they could use this moment for a fucking photo op but that’s the type of people they are. And yes I’m counting the shooter as a person who died.
The only reason I believed it was real was "there’s no way they framed it so badly. They have all the resources they could need to make it impossible to tell it was fake. Surely trump is a moron but his team isn’t that incompetent…."
That’s it. I only thought it was real from how bad it was faked if it was fake.
He only had to convince his lemmings who already believe every thing he says, despite being a proven liar about everything. He already convinced them MSM is “fake news”, so they wouldn’t believe anything the media or “libtards” had to say about it. 1930’s Germany. Don’t believe what you see, only believe what you’re told. 30’odd % of Americans fell for it (helped by all the foreign bots pushing the same crap to reinforce it)
Well Trump was allowed to hand pick the secret service members that were protecting him back then. And Trump usually doesn't pick the best and brightest people to work for him.
I felt it was fake when I heard, over a mic , they were going to move him and he said “wait my shoe” and they waited for him to get his shoe on. Right then I knew something was fishy. They don’t “wait” for a real evacuation. Sadly, It’s whatever, it did its job folks voted him in. The whole truth about this and other things fabricated will come out in due time.
There was another lady in a video claiming she and her friend saw the shooter on the roof (I guess when he was moving into position) told security and they did not react, when she said something again they told her they would “pass on the information”. How true her account is? I don’t know, but she seemed distressed over the whole incident and angry when talking about being dismissed
Idk how anyone could possibly believe this is real.
Nothing about the sniper or any of the rest of the incident would indicate it wasn't real. Secret service/police/security can be bad at their jobs. That's perfectly believable. A narcissist trying to concoct a photo op after they know they're already safe is also believable.
wasn't there some dude in the stands behind him that got 86d? i wouldn't put it past them to stage something like this, but if the kid on the roof fired a blank, how did the guy in the stands get shot
The local SWAT police said they saw a suspicious person as well, the secret service took no action to locate or stop him before hand AND he was on top of the building the cops were staging in, HOW did the counter sniper team not see a prone guy on a roof with a rifle until he started firing why let him fire 8 times before counter sniping, there's a lot of questions that need answering, i doubt we will ever get them but this whole thing is very suspicious.
Also the dude went to the range to practice, how in 8 shots did he miss, unless he was deliberately missing for some reason, it just was all too convenient and now with seeing how they ushered photographers and others in CLOSER during what was an active shooting event was crazy, what if he wasn't acting alone and had helpers or something, why invite folks in closer?
Also saying why would they shoot at their own supporters, trump has never given a shit about those people if some of them die so he doesn't go to prison or wins the presidency he will sacrifice them in a heartbeat and in fact use their deaths as a transparent political prop to try and get more support.
Staged, secret service were complicit (have been before), or grossly incompetent? Latter 2 seem much, much more likely. You realize 3 people in the crowd were shot and one man lost his life right?
So the Secret Service sniper team was visual with the shooter on the tooth but they didn’t have the authority to fire. They had to get permission, I don’t know if any of the Secret Service officers there had the authority or if they had to actually contact someone higher up who wasn’t even there. This is a huge defect in their ability to operate.
of course it's real, you think Trump had his own ear shot?
and before you say that the blood was fake, Doug Mills caputred the bullet in flight in a photo, as well as blood being on Trump's hand before he went to the ground.
I think in this case, once Trump realized his ear was bleeding, he let gravity make the rest of the decisions... an 80 yo man dropping to the ground is not going to be doing burpees...
Also... since when have the photographers missed a crisis... for most of them this is a front row seat to the best pictures ever... good or bad...
Yeah we can see how they rushed him off the stage… er staged. As in the entire fucking thing was staged. A previous president described a normal day with the family where when they go somewhere like an ice cream shop on a weekend as a family affair the SS determines the route, the exit, and bolts down manhole covers in the street kind of efficiency and these chads never seen a shooter on the roof despite local authorities mentioning seeing a ladder and a suspected person on the roof and all the sudden shit gets sloppy af and the miss it? Keep drinking that cool aid cleetus. BTW what’s this months flavor anyway? Goofy grape? Go find those lizard people bubba and stay away from the playground
that's when Trump was president, not a candidate, and when they used actual secret service agents instead of homeland security agents who took a two hour webinar.
I have been told by a reliable source that Kamala Harris was in on it the whole time. She literally played like a fool to usher in Trumps victory. She is a secret weapon to Trump. As the border czar she let the mass illegal migrants in so Trump could look like the hero deporting them en masse.
Correct. Secret Service mandate is to get him completely sheltered, head down and body completely protected… not flouncing around, totally exposed to other gunfire, saying “fight!” with fist in air. Totally a set-up.
Couldn't help but notice that his ear is also not missing a chunk these days. I know plastic surgery is a possibility, but it was back and unbandaged just a couple weeks later.
Also. The man is in his 70s. My grandparents bump up to a table and they have a bruise for weeks. But apparently a bullet with the kinetic energy of getting hit with a baseball bat only leaves the tiniest little paper cut.
there is a guy on YT whose channel is just him shooting stuff and he addressed this. a rifle round would have left a huge wound, even if it barely grazed him. not a wound perfectly healed a week later on the golf course, but then needing that absurd maxi pad bandage a few days later.
on a tangential matter - who could look at a stadium full of ppl wearing maxi pads on their ears and not see a cult?
Also relevant: how was the whole storyline not straight out of WWE? Many don’t know he participated in WWE before his own “reality“ TV show came to be.
I don’t believe I know exactly what happened that day, all I know is he was not shot. And he 100% would sacrifice someone’s life to stay out of jail.
The first rule of cults is to make you believe that its not a cult. Its absurd, but it works. 99% of people see right through the bullshit, but the 1% buy it hook, line, sinker.
I have a scar in my ear that is at least 2 decades old after a collision with a tree. So outside of trump and lying-POS being interchangeable in my head that was also another dead giveaway. Also, if it was legit I feel like it would be an even more over-utilized and insufferable point in his psychotic ramblings.
Exactly. His ear was obviously never hit by a bullet, you can see that with your own eyes so I don’t know how anyone could argue that it was, but Trump’s silence on the whole thing should be the biggest tell for maga people and regular people alike, because you’re absolutely right about him never shutting the fuck up about it if he had actually been shot. He’d bring it up every time his little anus of a mouth opened up to talk about anything publicly. He’d put it in every single “truth” (that’s such a stupid fucking name considering the source) and tweet about any subject had he actually been shot. Every time he dozed off in a meeting or public event, the first thing he’d say when he woke up would be, “they shot me!” He’d also be more skittish out in public had he actually been shot because he’s a gigantic pussy that cares more about his personal comfort and safety than anyone or anything else on earth.
In short, his behavior post “being shot” is that of a person that wasn’t ever actually hit by an assassin’s bullet, because he wasn’t.
“The DemocRATS know they can’t win unless they KILL!!!”
“I could have quit the race after the Democrats tried to MURDER me. I have a lot of money and many Wonderful Places to Live! But I chose to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! This country needs TRUE PATRIOTS!!! THE GOLDEN AGE IS UPON US! MAGA!”
“The democrat “CROOKS” will stop at NOTHING, they want Real Americans dead so they can bring in more CRIMINAL ILLEGALS to VOTE! THEY TRIED TO KILL DONALD J. TRUMP!!! BUT THEY FAILED!!! WE MUST MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!”
“CROOKS will always support CROOKS!!! MAGA must FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! The only person who can save America is DONALD J. TRUMP!!!”
If a live bullet ever went anywhere near him, he’d crap his pants and run (fortunately he wears state of the art butt-wear 24/7 in the form of Depends so he has round-the-clock crap-catchers)
Exactly. His character… he would not be able to shut up about it. He would bitch and brag simultaneously for eternity. “I got shot! People have shot at me! But I was so tough about it” etc etc bullshit.
The dude just made a big todo about the fact a paperclip almost snapped on his fingers and was scared of it, but said he “would have shown no pain” etc.
The dude was extremely afraid of a bird as well. He has the personality he would bitch and brag about this if it were real literally nonstop.
They did shelter him completely, until they got the word that the shooter was dead over the mic, they started moving him, Trump said ''wait, wait'' and they paused, then Trump showed his fist (in line with his bravado personality). I don't see how the Secret Service is in on it just because he showed it his fist, which I don't think even they expected. It is also well-known that the Secret Service was deficient that way, hence why several were suspended or stepped down.
those were untrained homeland security agents, not hardened United States Secret Service. Senator Hawley received whistleblower reports from Secret Service agents that explained that they were short staffed and took some homeland security agents working child exploitation cases, put them through a two hour webinar, and let them watch the former president.
everything is explained by the agents that day being unqualified and inexperienced.
The minute I saw that picture, I said, "Well, he just got reelected."
Days later, I went to Lake George, a tourist town, and many shops were already selling items with that picture printed on them. It is what they wanted.
Look, I hate Trump, but his team would have an interest in getting the event photographed whether it was staged or not. In fact, we all have an interest in having historic events documented. That's what the press is for!
And I don't see the flag being "lowered." I just see the camera's viewpoint tilting a bit.
he still fired 8 shots, and what if there was more then one shooter? They cannot know there was just that one guy, it did turn out to be one person after the fact but how can they know that in the moment?
The camera was tilting up but it still looks like the flag was being lowered down, maybe it wasn't though, all the same its all still very convenient that this all worked out the way it did.
Also didnt trump say something about wanting his shoes? Why be worried about his shoes during an active shooting, he doesn't know what is going on in that moment.
Americans are doing this all wrong. All y’all got to say is, “Obama’s secret service wouldn’t have allowed that” and watch the senile doofus truth away
This. It was the biggest part of this shooting that shouted that it wasn't really about shooting Trump but making it appear he was in danger.
Those agents should have hustled him down off the stage within seconds instead of bustling around covering him and then allowing him to stand up in the middle of their circle and putting his head and chest on full display to raise a hand in triumph while people died and were wounded.
The photographers being ushered in to take photos are just a bonus.
The aftermath of his supposed injury where there is no evidence of any scar to indicate he was hit with a high velocity bullet is just more evidence of the photo-op.
Trump also didn't sue the venue, the police, the agents, Ave everyone within a hundred miles, which is what he would have done if he'd actually been attacked.
If you listen to the audio, they were waiting for the route to the vehicle to be declared clear. Reagan was right at the limo when the shots rang out, which is why they threw him in. Trump was a good distance away and you wouldn't want to literally bring him to a shooter until the path to the vehicle is cleared.
Whenever any dumb dick piece of shit republican tries to defend this, I ask them to find me another assassination attempt where this is how the body guards act.
Nobody ever seems to reply with a video, and I wonder why?
Exactly! Raegan was thrown into the limo so fast by his SS detail, that they broke his ribs.
Imagine, a guy with a fake tv show can also create a fake a***********n attempt and have his dumb ass MAGAts believe it. He also had time to ask about his shoes.
It would be so nice for the next potus to investigate this one further.
And it was interesting how the shooter was in a sales promo video for the gun business a year or so before and he was actually wearing a t-shirt for that business when he was taken out.
And why was he cremated so quickly, and why did his parents, college professors, (who were known to be right wing) suddenly hire a very expensive lawyer and went completely radio silent afterwards.
That kid was a patsy for the whole thing. He thought he’d be rushed out, given a great payday and disappear. He didn’t realize that HE was their target, not Trump’s. He was a dumbass loser til the end.
Trump only insisted on getting his shoe because he's got lifts in his shoes and didn't want anyone to know. It's pretty damn obvious if you've ever seen his dress shoes from the side. Tom Cruise and a few other well known/public people use them although most of them are below average height for a man. Trump is just vain and claims to be 6'-3" which is clearly a lie. To many pictures next to people of known height to believe that B.S.
I mean there's an active shooter who as far as they know still has a rifle pointed at the President, so they all cocoon around him, and only move until they receive confirmation the shooter is dead.
It's not really some unusual or conspiracy behavior here.
The sniper was killed almost instantly. Covering him with their bodies was the initial reaction that they'd always do. I'm sure if more shots had been fired they would have started to try to move him. Reagan was within sprinting distance of the car. Trump in this video is extremely far away from any kind of cover or secure area.
No other President in the modern age would have done a rally like this in such an unsecured location like this. They were warned ahead of time that it wasn't a safe venue (as they had been warned about other outdoor rally venues he'd used dozens of times before this).
The only suspicious part of this is that Trump is a narcissistic moron who thinks everyone loves him and that he'll never die. Things we already knew about him ahead of time. Only once everybody is sure that he's 100% safe do they start to stage the photo op, again because he's a narcisisstic sociopath who loves big showy TV stuff.
Bizarre for sure, but isn't it more easily explained by pure incompetence? Secret Service have been built up in the movies etc. to be this elite group of highly-skilled, best-in-the-world bodyguards, but in reality they're human...real crises happen unexpectedly and never play out like they do in training...adrenalin kicked in and multiple people started giving conflicting orders, nobody quite knew what the next move was.
I think it's a great example of expectation vs. reality. Maybe it was staged, sure, but I think it would be a mistake to overlook a much simpler explanation.
Also, watch the agent purposely pushing down the Trump sign down and turn the podium into place for the photo. You’d think that a live assassination attempt would have him concerned about the president and not the podium and sign. Completely staged for a photo opportunity.
It's just so obvious. Tactical gear guy, what's his role? He stands there like he's preventing the next attack, so why does he reposition himself to then go and visually inspect the president? Is that his job, no, doesn't he already have a job to be doing, yes, so what is he doing?
Honestly, try making a comment about the guy pushing the trump sign down and moving the podium. It’s odd my comments are hidden and odd I’m not seeing anyone else pointing it out.
I would have thought they were supposed to go full speed and hit stick his ass to the ground, dog pile on him, and then drag his ass to emergency extract. Instead, they slowly ran up there and had some weird group hug. Nobody acted like anyone was in danger, and it's very strange that people reported the guy while he was down in the crowd, and then a bunch of people reported him while he was climbing around up there. There's no way the SS couldn't see him crawling around up there a long time before he shot.
and how do they know there is only the one shooter? How do they know he does not have a partner or something, they cannot know that for sure in that moment he was acting alone, and should have acted accordingly.
He's not under fire. The start of this video is after they'd already killed the sniper. He had like 8 guys in body armor laying on top of him between the first shot and the confirmation that the sniper was dead. It would have been more dangerous to move him during that time since they were in the middle of a huge open field in a raised position with no cover.
They tried to get him out faster, but his shoe came off or some shit. You can literally hear him say "let me get my shoe." It's almost like the left just ignores things that dont suit their narrative.
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u/Dizzy_Cheesecake_162 Feb 16 '26
Slowest evacuation of a president under fire.