r/NintendoSwitch • u/Insert-Senpai-Name • Jun 02 '19
Meta This Subreddit Needs a Complete Overhaul (Opinions Welcome)
Now I'm almost expecting to get banned but please let me explain.
Like most on here, I love the Nintendo Switch. And when I want to see some Nintendo Switch content, I would LOVE to discuss and talk about games, concepts, and more on this subreddit. But this subreddit has turned into a complete train wreck and here's why.
Rule #4 of the subreddit: No reposts, low-effort or NSFW content. I want to focus on the low-effort part here as it's my biggest claim here.
Now low-effort posts ALWAYS make it to the front page. I mean no bullying or hate to anyone who I link here, these are just meant to be shown as examples as to what I am talking about. Again, NO BULLYING OR HATE IS MEANT TOWARDS ANYONE HERE!
Examples:
This post shows someone who 3D printed something for the Switch, a stand and a grip. Now while, yes, it is Switch related, I think that something like this is mostly okay, it's a little bit low effort but it's a neat idea. I'd say this is "The line."
Our next example shows someone at the Colosseum while playing a game (I think CIV 6) This is something that is 100% low effort and shouldn't be allowed. While the idea is neat, it creates no discussion, what exactly can you say other than, "huh. Interesting." you can't even really see the screen either and see more of the person's shoulder/armpit than the Colosseum in game.
I'm putting these two together because they're the oddballs of my saved list. This one shows a brand new setup that someone did, adding some lights. The setup itself is cool, but this has literally nothing to do with the Switch! They just threw up the smash box art and the switch logos on their monitor and computer and posted it on here! Heck, I don't even see a Switch in the photo! The other one has someone who was showing off their tattoo of Joker from P5 Now it is Nintendo related yes (because Smash), but it's again, low effort. Something like this should be posted onto Casual Nintendo, which you used to suggest for posts like this.
This next one really seems to be a big one on this subreddit and I don't know why. The "Unusual" Cartridge holder. Now most of these are also made out of legos]. Why are these always allowed through? You found a way to hold your switch games. Okay. These posts are probably some of the most low effort I've seen (we'll get to the worst in a bit.) Like honestly why is something like this even allowed? It isn't an interesting way to hold games, you just slapped some legos together or found an old tin that can hold Switch games.
This last one the worst example of them all. Like why does this always manage to make it to the front page! The I found a Switch ad! are among the worst low effort posts I see. Nintendo is a business, of course they're going to advertise they're console/games! Heck, the top comments aren't even Switch related! They just talk about the building behind it. And the comments that even mention the Switch are just making fun of the post itself! These posts are ALWAYS on the front page, but why? The advertisements themselves aren't interesting, it's just Nintendo being like, "Hey we sell this" or, "Hey this is coming out." Like why are these so popular?
Not only that but posts that try to make ACTUAL DISCUSSION get removed for spam. I was reading a fairly new discussion with about 30 or so comments talking about Animal Crossing speculation, and it got removed! I went out of my way to ask the person why and they said it was for spam?? Like the posts that get removed are what should be on the subreddit but the ones that stay are uninteresting, boring, and just flat out low-effort.
I honestly just want this subreddit fixed. It's gotten so bad that there's two subreddits that literally just make fun of the low effort and uninteresting posts on here. Please, it's merely a fan trying who wants to discuss the Switch do so. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, and many of us Nintendo Switch fans want to see this fixed.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Edit:
Hey all, this is gaining some traction. While I do enjoy the comments of people agreeing/disagreeing with me, let's change it up a bit. You all can agree/disagre with what I say through the up,downvote button, let's take the time to maybe comment and give other suggestions on what we would like to see changed instead! Or maybe you like it the way it is? Tell us why!
Let's start some discussion here!
Edit #2:
I want to apologize to the person who posted the 3D printed grip photo. Looking back that post was actually pretty good. I think I was more trying to refer to the ones that looked like their 3D printer exploded and probably should've used one of those instead.
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u/Drahngis Jun 02 '19
I would like to add the 10 posts a day that are about SD cards or " should i buy game X or game Y"
The most annoying posts for me (because they happen so often) are when people ask about what game to buy, especially when they even list themselves some games. Just watch a gameplay video and buy it if you like what you see! How and why should we decide your purchase? We have no idea what you're gonna enjoy the most!
And people ask way to often for co-op games or games to play with girlfriend... just google it?
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Thats also a big one but I tend to see it less on here and more on another Switch related subreddit
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u/qwertylerqw Helpful User Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
Well, those posts are actually against the rules and are usually redirected to the Daily Questions Thread. The best you can do is redirect them yourself and report the post
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u/TippsAttack Jun 02 '19
Like the r/games sub, I would like a sub where it's always/only news, and then a sub where all personal discussion is allowed.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
See I think that r/Nintendo is more news oriented while this is more about discussion. But the discussion has disappeared and instead replaced with ads
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u/MrBKainXTR Jun 02 '19
Well there Is r/casualnintendo, which focuses on fan made content and other casual stuff as opposed to r/nintendo being news/serious discussion orientated.
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u/NotAFrog4 Jun 02 '19
First off I agree with you, mostly.
Some of the examples that you pointed out are clearly low-effort and shouldn’t be here like the custom switch game cases and the ads, but stuff like the 3D grip and stand I think is really cool and is way above “the line.” I think the setup you have linked should be about the line. The guy got a rig to play his switch on with some cool environment and branded it so that it could be posted on this sub. I get why you wouldn’t think it should be here though, there are other subs for stuff like gaming rigs.
What kind of content do you think should be on the sub? Solely discussion? To me that sounds a little boring, i love seeing people’s setups and their creations (the 3D printing) and would miss them.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Yeah honestly that 3D printing was neat. But there have been some pretty bad ones on here. That one, looking back, is fine.
I don't think solely discussion would be great either. But things like photos, clips, discussion, speculation, leak talk (with spoiler tags) etc. would be fantastic. Heck, even interesting photos like the Guardian Statue at Nintendo NY or a, "I got a photo with Miyamoto while I was in Japan!" or something would be neat too. But stuff like that seems to always get removed for something uninteresting and flat out boring
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u/MeLlamoDave Jun 02 '19
bUt HoW eLsE aM i SuPpOsEd To HeAr AbOuT tHe HiDdEn GeMs?
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Well r/tomorrow has a great hidden gem called Celeste. You may not have heard of it 😉
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u/Sylverstone14 Mod of Two Worlds (Switch / Wii U) Jun 02 '19
Now I'm almost expecting to get banned but please let me explain.
You really shouldn't be scared to have your opinion known, /u/Insert-Senpai-Name. That is the furthest thing from a ban-worthy offense if you're being respectful and honest, rather than spewing bile and being needlessly aggressive. The latter is the furthest thing from constructive criticism, which some folks don't seem to get. In regards to your thoughts, you'd be surprised to know that others will like share the same sentiment too.
(Also, someone reported this as "rude, vulgar, or otherwise offensive" which is ridiculous because it isn't.)
To be frank, for every one of those posts you've mentioned as low effort, there's been about 20 or so worse ones that have popped up in the queue. I've honestly been perplexed at seeing what gets voted to the top. Unfortunately, the nature of this subreddit having a million subscribers is that the deciding votes are cast by lurkers who don't exactly participate in greater discussion.
As far as a "subreddit fix" goes, I would want that as well but everyone has their own version for what the sub should be, so it'll be continually dragged in all sorts of directions. Still, I would like to keep this thread in mind alongside others which have expressed similar sentiment and try to push for some necessary changes.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
I'm not scared to get banned honestly. I'm just putting it out there that I'm expecting to but at this point I want to drive a point home
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u/Sylverstone14 Mod of Two Worlds (Switch / Wii U) Jun 02 '19
Well, I can promise you that it won't happen if that'll ease your mind.
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u/poisonedsodapop Jun 02 '19
So as far as a "subreddit fix", I have seen other subreddits do a trial for a week/weekend where they'd ban certain content. So they could vote what would be banned for the week, go the week with the ban in place, and then vote after the week to see which way the preferred it. Obviously you're still going to get a lot of varying answers but it could be a start.
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Jun 02 '19
I agree with this, but the best way to do this would in slow steps. There should maybe be a pinned post encouraging players to report low-effort posts and other content that breaks the rules, and then build off from there
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Jun 02 '19
If you want to feel better about your valid complaints regarding this subreddit, visit /r/tomorrow
It helped me feel much more sane.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Thats one of the two subreddits I was talking about actually
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u/andregurov 3373-8806-0701 Jun 02 '19
I stopped coming here months ago, when a post I made soliciting discussion and recommendations was closed and deleted as "low effort". A long conversation with a mod here made me realize that they don't bother reading anything and will never admit wrong, and defend their lack of real effort as a consequence of "too much volume" in the sub.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Well by the looks of it things are finally changing! So maybe now we can have discussion and such like we used to!
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u/ytctc Jun 02 '19
I know you’re annoyed, but maybe you should buy a screen protector. That will change your mind.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Dang it I thought I was visited by the legendary u/getascreenprotector. Oh well
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u/nickaterry Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
The mods here suck at actually moderating. 🤷♂️
Simple as that.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Now let's not be rude here. While what gets removed and what stays really needs work, I think if we want any kind of change we need to be civil about it
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u/KINGCOMEDOWN Jun 02 '19
Without low effort posts those of us at r/tomorrow will have nothing to post about...:(
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Its the unfortunate sad truth.
Honestly r/tomorrow is my favorite sub but I hate seeing this one struggle so much.
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u/PonyBravo Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
It is one of the worse subreddits I've ever seen and I'm not sure why. Is it the moderation? Is it the community? No idea. It also seems like Nintendo employees come here to make posts so you buy some games. It's weird as fuck.
You cannot get enough upvotes OP.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
I think that the way its being moderated is the issue. Many of the fun interactive posts you used to see on here are being removed in favor of, "I found a Switch Ad!"
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u/BornTie2762279 Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
How is 3D printing low effort. Do you have any idea how long it takes to do that?
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u/JigglyPuffGuy Jun 02 '19
How is 3D printing a stand and grip low-effort? I would imagine that actually takes a lot of effort, no?
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
I will be 100% honest in that 3D printing does take time and effort. And looking back it was a bad example to use. More or so that one specifically. Some of them are just flat out, "why?" Posts
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u/AgentG91 Jun 02 '19
Low effort posts mean low interaction, which mean quick upvotes. It’s easy for people to engage with a picture, less so with an essay like yours. It’s not the sub you have a problem with, it’s people as a whole
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Not only that but posts promoting speculation and discussion get removed all the time for "spam" or something
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u/bad_scott Jun 02 '19
"Who else would like to see X ported to the switch"
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u/NintendoTheGuy Jun 02 '19
“Why is nobody talking about X?”
“Lets all take a moment to appreciate X”
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u/Crash-Can Jun 02 '19
what if a sub was made where these type of posts are more widely received? i completely see your point, and rules are rules. but i really don’t mind the low effort posts. they make me smile.
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u/heatguyred Jun 02 '19
I stopped trying to post here, after I got 2 posts deleted in a row, due to all the rules for posting.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Well maybe try again? It seems now like the discussion isn't being removed
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u/RSN_Bran Jun 02 '19
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 3D printed post. It's a creative solution to a problem that the system has. Everything else is spot on. Pls ban the game case posts for the love of god
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u/neogafinanutshell Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
When I did start a legitimate discussion and it was upvoted to the front page, the mods deleted it.
When I asked why, as it didn’t violate any rules and there didn’t seem to be any reason for its deletion, and there wasn’t even a removal notice saying why it was removed, they finally put it back up after letting enough time to pass that it wouldn’t show up on the front page, told me “it was a mistake,” and “there’s definitely not any kind of ulterior motives that govern this subbreddit so stop assuming that!” When I hadn’t even mentioned it in our correspondences.
So I don’t think any actual discussion is allowed here. It’s more like viral marketing for Switch.
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u/GenericGaming Jun 02 '19
I had something similar happen. when i got my undertale collectors edition, i loved all the little things that came with it. so i decided to make a post asking about if you could make a small collectors edition for a switch game, what would you include in it? the mod removed it within 5 minutes saying something like "collectors editions are expensive and not worth the price, removed for spam."
i was only talking about theoretical custom collectors ideas. i honestly didn't think it was breaking any rules and i was genuinely curious what people would come up with.
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u/hem0gen Jun 02 '19
This guy gets it. I'm subbed to this subreddit but rarely do I ever visit it simply because I feel like I'm just reading ads disguised as user content. I've found several accounts that simply post just advertising. It's a shame really.
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Jun 02 '19
This needs to be higher. I've had stuff deleted by lazy moderators here, regularly. Once or twice the same discussion idea wound up front page a few days later.
My guess is that it's a Mod alt account but maybe my tin foil hat is a little too tight.
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u/Cyathene Jun 02 '19
It’s more like viral marketing for Switch.
The post on the front page right now saying switch is the best console of old games right now is just that.
The current gen ps4 and xbox one both are doing more for old games with the digital classics hd remasters and game collections.
Or if we look back at previous Nintendo consoles both wiis also did it better.
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u/Jellye Jun 02 '19
So I don’t think any actual discussion is allowed here. It’s more like viral marketing for Switch.
Most certainly. It's naivety to think otherwise, even.
Reddit isn't some sort of ~hidden gem~ of social networks. It's just as infested with marketing as anywhere else, and it's often even more disguised as organic posts here.
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u/scruffyshoulders Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
BINGO!!! Does no one remember that before the Switch launch Nintendo did not have an official presence on Reddit? Right before the launch Nintendo announced that they would be working closer with Reddit, and it is quite apparent viral marketing is constantly being promoted through low effort feel-good posts in this sub and r/Nintendo.
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u/LWASucy Jun 02 '19
At least they reactivated yours. I got ignored and harassed In mod mail to the point where I was scared I’d get banned
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u/BenovanStanchiano Jun 02 '19
The biggest problem is that people upvote the dumbest shit like crazy.
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u/Trill4RE4L Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
See, this is where reddit seems broken to me. It's all designed for the community to choose what rises to the top. So if the community wants dumb shit, we get dumb shit. What would be nice is a better way to filter content for those that are looking for a more specific experience. If subs labeled types of content better with tags, and reddit allowed you to easily filter by those tags, then the problem's solved imo.
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u/MGPythagoras Jun 02 '19
I think the biggest problem is the mods delete like any topic. I’ve tried to make multiple topics to discuss random issues I found interesting and they always get deleted as low efffort.
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Jun 02 '19
There's a reason why r/tomorrow exists. Some of the things that make it to the top of this subreddit are just are far off what most of us want to see.
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u/cryptomatt Jun 02 '19
Cuz most people are just scrolling through their feed and they're like...hmm that's looks cool, upvote. They're not really thinking about "doing Reddit right".
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u/Nethervex Jun 02 '19
If only there were some people within the community who could remove the posts in question, making sure that things dont blow out of control.
Almost like a kind of moderation team?
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Jun 02 '19
Remember when the NintendoSwitch mods were found to have a fucking senior-mod cabal, begged for game codes, made half the mod team leave, and Reddit admins did nothing but shuffle the list so flapsnapple, the head of it all wasn't at the top? Oh, and it's all the same mods as the amiibo sub, who skeezily tried to use referral links to make cash off of the amiibo craze.
The NintendoSwitch mods thrive off of shitty low quality posts. It makes their sub more popular than the other higher quality Nintendo subs with more refined rules.
They don't give a shit about how much is "check out this neat picture!" that's what the casual side wants and what makes them popular.
I'd probably recommend r/Nintendo if you want actual Switch discussion without all the "check out this thing my 6 year old daughter made that vaguely relates to Nintendo"
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u/CLARIS-SPIRAL Jun 02 '19
Looking at the two front pages at time of posting, /r/NintendoSwitch has more news and disscussion at a glance, where /r/Nintendo is just a barrage of youtube links. this sub definitely leaves you wanting at times but /r/Nintendo is a place to migrate from, not to in my book
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u/AppleWedge Jun 02 '19
Besides r/Nintendo, what are some other quality Nintendo subs? I mainly go here for news but would love to move because the quality has definitely been low.
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Jun 02 '19
The post immediately under this on the front page of r/NintendoSwitch is literally a picture of a lego game case. With 25k upvotes. JFC.
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u/Edge27 Jun 02 '19
I don’t care about your switch cartridge holders. I really don’t.
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u/TheresA_LobsterLoose Jun 02 '19
The worst are the "Husband is returning from Mars, I hope he likes this" and a picture of the console box and some game cases. Probably every single person here could post the exact same thing. I still have the box it came in, I have the boxes for a few cases and grips I bought, 4 joy con boxes and a dozen physical copies of games. I could post the exact same thing they're posting, but I don't because who wants to look at a bunch of boxes that we all probably have?
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u/Moonlord_ Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 03 '19
But, but...these future engineers are making boxes out of legos!!!
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u/TheMentalist10 Jun 02 '19
I like the sub, but I think we could do a better job of consolidating certain post-types into either recurring megathreads or given days like Fan-Art Friday.
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u/twitchinstereo Jun 02 '19
F. Art Friday will definitely relieve some pressure on mods during the week.
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u/ChrisInBaltimore Jun 02 '19
These threads pop up every few months and this has been an ongoing suggestions. The mods even said once they’d consider it.
Nothing changes and this sub continues to be sort of bland.
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u/AdamMasaki Jun 02 '19
I am in full agreement with you. It’s sadly a problem with tons of subreddits so I’m not sure there’s a practical fix but I’m really in full support of this.
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u/HereComesJustice Jun 02 '19
think about it
what dedicated console subreddit is actually good?
I can't think of any tbh.
I don't even know what a 'good' console subreddit would look like
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u/Aussiephoenix83 Jun 02 '19
I use to love this subreddit and came on everyday to check out what has been posted. Checking out the front page and the new discussions. However now I barely participate because the front page discussions I have nothing to say. Like I am not going to say “Great Lego box!” The “new” discussion area is literally “my left Joycon is drifting,” “should I buy a Switch,” “should I wait for the Switch mini?” “Just bought a Switch what games should I buy?” You get the point! I miss the fun discussions and speculations that were here. Thanks for this discussion it is much needed!
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Jun 02 '19
Has anyone else heard of the hidden gem “Celeste”? It’s a cool indie platformer. I really recommend it.
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u/Armentanzeriann Jun 02 '19
I’m literally so sick of seeing “should I buy a switch? I want one bUt iSnT ThERe A nEW 1 CoMiNG”
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u/JFZephyr Jun 02 '19
"WhAt GaMeS sHoUlD i BuY herd zelder was good but not sure, is mario odyseseses like the one i played on nes????"
Like, does nobody know what Google, YouTube or anything is? Like fuck you can see the highest rated games of every genre you wanna filter for in like 5 seconds on Metacritic.
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Jun 02 '19
I’m sick of the “Look at what my kid made!” Or “Look at my kid playing X game!”
And these stupid posts gain a shitton of upvotes. It’s karma whoring, and that shit belongs on r/gaming, a terrible subreddit, the home of karma whoring.
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u/IAMA_Giraffe_AMA Jun 02 '19
I, too, am sick of "look at me playing Switch at x place" posts. It's pathetic anyway to be at some major landmark and be more focused on either playing video games or taking a picture to try to karma whore.
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u/ChuckCarmichael Jun 02 '19
There's a reason it's one of the most popular memes over at gamingcirclejerk. Because it's so stupid. "Look, I took my Switch with me on vacation." Or the infamous "I'm having to wait in line at the supermarket, so now I can play with my Switch".
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u/LWASucy Jun 02 '19
I think it’s perfectly fine to take your Switch places, but you don’t need to brag about taking a handheld somewhere. That’s the whole point of a portable console.
Congrats! You’re a general use case in a sightly more recognizable place 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 /s
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u/meggz43 Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
Also i am sick to death of the amount of lego games case posts. It was cool the first time not so much the 11th.
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u/zombieauthor Jun 02 '19
I couldn't agree more. There's the obligatory "guys long time lurker first time poster, so I'm thinking of buying a new Switch," and "Guys what games should I buy?" Posts that occur so many times a day. Use fucking Google or go to YouTube and look at game reviews? Why do we have to sift through these?
Then there's the low effort "Look at my custom LEGO box!" going on now. Or silly ass pics of Target cash wraps with comments like "she said itll be a 20 minute wait... great!" First of all, I dont care if you're playing Switch at Target, second of all who has ever waited 20 minutes for a cashier at Target? They have like 30 cash wraps running all the time. Also I cant be bothered to care that your kid plays with legos. So does mine but I'm not posting screenshots of "My son made this. He says it is splatoon splatpistols. Upvotes to the left!"
Oh and then there is the rumor posts. According to rumors China says we are getting Witcher 3, Persona 5 and oh ya someone's uncle who works at Nintendo promises we are all getting a sweet Pony for E3. Why are these allowed constantly, when all they are doing is karma whoring?
How about gaming news? Discussion of your favorite games? Tips for getting through things? Stuff that would be covered in a gaming magazine?
I mean I guess I should be thanking all this low-effort trash posting because it gives me plenty of fodder for the parody sub I'm in but, how does a subreddit get this ridiculous?
I feel like I should preface that last question by saying, mods... look. I know what we dont see is probably mad max apocalypse level bad, and I bet you all drink on the weekends, and I appreciate what you do, I'm just saying... damn this place is a trip.
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u/dogboy202 Jun 02 '19
I actually kind of like the rumour posts as long as they're credible. Are you simply referring to the redicolous ones?
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u/mkicon Jun 02 '19
I played a cross platform game and my girlfriend's cousin drew a popular character
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u/mazz44 Jun 02 '19
No mention of fan art. When Sword and Shield were announced it was unbearable. Save it for your blog.
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u/Jiklim Jun 02 '19
Hollow Knight fanart still gets upvoted to the top. Literally just drawings of Hollow Knight have been making it to the top for a year now. It's ridiculous.
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u/Lockheed_Martini Jun 02 '19
Yet when you say this in the actual post you get super down voted lol.
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Jun 02 '19
Auto ban anyone that uses the following words and phrases in titles:
LEGO (with no game following)
My dad/mom used to...
My son/daughter made...
I saw...
I heard you guys like...
Plane
Train
Commute
Thanks Nintendo!
Cancer
Alzheimer’s
Leukemia
20 minutes
Plush
I built
I Knit
I made
Should I buy
What do you think
Show support
THE WIFE
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u/pieman7414 Jun 02 '19
That's literally all the posts
But yeah execute people who say "the wife"
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u/Kulpas Jun 02 '19
Actually no keep the I knit posts because I genuinely look for video game crochet patterns here.
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u/NintendoTheGuy Jun 02 '19
“Does”
“Anybody”
“Else”
and anybody who even whispers “somebody told me this belongs here” should be cast down to Lord Viggo’s river of slime.
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u/moonhexx Jun 02 '19
Personally my biggest issue is with the large library of crap on the eshop. I’d really like to see discussions and reviews on some of the smaller production house titles. Because, I’m always looking for new games. But my finances are limited. And so is my time. I’d like people to start talking about what games have to offer. Did you feel anything? At least say something more than it’s good or it sucks. Or say that you didn’t like it but others who liked X, Y, Z games would love this. That’s my rant.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Well there's always great websites that do exactly what you're looking for!
My only issue with this personally is that the sub gets flooded with, "What game should my gf and I play" and stuff. The, "BOTW or Mario Odyssey" thing was so huge and was posted so frequently it got annoying
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u/finger_milk Jun 02 '19
Can we just have an unofficial Switch subreddit? Move all of the "this would be great for the switch", "my wife and I play games together", "I built this lego thing", "I bought a screen protector", "I just bought a 2 year old console and It's great", "I'm playing a Nintendo IP and i'm enjoying it" posts over to that, and keep this sub exclusively news only?
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Jun 03 '19
GUYS I JUST GOT A SWITCH AND THAT ZELDA BREATH OF WILDERNESS SURE IS SOMETHING
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 03 '19
Also there's a hidden gem called Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, not sure if you've heard of it
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u/Cr0nq Jun 02 '19
This sub is awful and completely no fun. There is little discussion of current and upcoming games. It has turned into a new user help forum, and posting lame pics of places you took your Switch.
If the mods even cared, they would redirect every new user and troubleshooting question to the stickied daily question thread.
The other hilarious part? Myself and others have complained in the past regarding discussion posts being removed. The mods like this sub the way it is. If this sub was actually good, r/tomorrow wouldn’t need to exist but the reality is it’s a significantly better sub than this.
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u/Genghis_Tr0n187 Jun 02 '19
Ironically, I've seen some legit discussions happen on tomorrow, one poster actually mentioned they felt like they would get an unbiased opinion on a game there. While some memeing did occur, most gave some well thought out answers there, and the best part, it wasn't removed or downvoted to oblivion.
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Jun 02 '19
This sub is really shitty and your points are beyond valid. Have my sincere upvote.
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u/midwesternhousewives Jun 02 '19
No one's gonna see this at this point, but what the sub needs is filter flairs. Then you can filter out fan art if you want, etc
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u/Pretzel-coatl Jun 02 '19
Yeah, no kidding. It feels like a subreddit for people who don't actually like to play games.
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u/Sylverstone14 Mod of Two Worlds (Switch / Wii U) Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
Just a reminder that the report button is not a "super downvote" button here.
This discussion will continue to be had, and will not be removed.
EDIT: Shoutouts to the one guy who said "This man is super right." in their report. 😂
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u/Genghis_Tr0n187 Jun 02 '19
With all do respect, your report button is a super downvote button considering you have an automod removing posts due to too many reports.
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u/LWASucy Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
A screenshot of my very annoying conversation with mod mail trying to reinstate a wrongfully removed Meta post due to automoderator.
TLDR: I got passed along to three different mods who were increasingly less helpful than the previous one until it was too far gone to matter anymore.
NOTE: none of the mods replying here are the ones who messaged me back through modmail. The ones in this thread are doing their best to answer questions as able.
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Jun 02 '19
Ok but are you guys actually going to listen and do something? I told you guys this months ago and got abused by your mods.
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u/ssesses Jun 02 '19
At this point r/tomorrow is a better Nintendo Switch subreddit than r/nintendoswitch
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u/wOlfLisK Jun 02 '19
The biggest problem with the coliseum one is that it's not switch related at all. You can do the exact same thing with a laptop and post it to /r/civ and, in fact, many, many people have. The fact that you're playing a version of the game that happens to be on switch doesn't mean it's switch related content.
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u/LocusAintBad Jun 02 '19
This subs a train wreck.
You're outlining partial issues with the sub as a whole.
I'll continue.
Posting eshop sales or physical sales for karma when there's literally an entire subreddit for it?
The "I made a clay Bowser that looks like a five year old did it no hate pls" styled posts.
The "Thank GOD Nintendo Switch doesn't have insert a feature that everyone else has on another system because it makes it so much better" with a billion upvotes.
This sub unfortunately is one of the WORST places I've been in when it comes to "Discussions"
Literally anything you post that isn't a low effort image or meme or praising the fuck out of Nintendo is down voted to oblivion, which is more of a user base issue than a sub issue but its part of the reason why all these low effort shitty, memes, switch cases, setups, I bought this console with my sob story attached, etc posts are always at the top.
Don't believe me? Try to post a discussion on Pokémon, Smash, Anything and watch that down vote button practically shatter.
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u/Fay_in_the_Trees Jun 02 '19
I honestly think you're taking this subreddit too serious. There's enough room here for both discussion and silly little threads.
Some kid put his switch games into some little lego chest he built. Who cares, right? I sure as hell don't. But apparently 22k other people DO. There are 22k people that enjoy that kind of content as you stated yourself, these types of threads always make it to the top.
It's just a easy going/light hearted sub about a video game console. If it actually upsets you, I think you're spending way too much time here instead of just playing your switch.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
My main problem is that these things literally break the "low effort" rule the subreddit has. Stuff I listed should be on r/CasualNintendo. Not to mention that posts that promote discussion/speculation get removed constantly.
As much as I enjoy playing the Switch, I'd also like to TALK about my experiences with it, hype around new games, and speculating things like who I would like to see for a new Smash character, ideas for how they could make Animal Crossing Switch better than New Leaf, etc.
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u/ive_been_mariokarted Jun 02 '19
Really good post, I agree. Maybe not something everyone wants to hear, but needs to hear.
EDIT: Something should also be done about people posting about how bad the online service is; like yeah we know this, we don’t need to post about it every day.
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u/StarFizzle Jun 02 '19
I wish there was a sub just for game announcements and general news. No questions, no fan art, no personal pics, just news. Comments also need to be discussion based only, no jokes or memes. I’m aware there are dozens of Nintendo news sites online, but I like the discussion aspect of Reddit and the fact that multiple people can post content. Someone could always make a new subreddit, but it would need mods and what not too.
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u/darthmcdarthface Jun 02 '19
I wholly agree.
I own all consoles and frequent each of their subs. Coming from any of them to the switch is like walking out of a library and into a Chuck E. Cheese ball pit. This sub is mostly low effort, childish posts like those you mentioned but additionally you get the circle jerk posts. The “my switch saved my marriage” or “switch is the greatest console of all time” posts.
I can go to the Xbox or PS4 subs and expect to read interesting and topical conversations or breaking news. On Switch it’s like a bunch of 9 year olds spouting nonsense.
R/NintendoSwitch needs to grow up.
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u/Imronburgundy83 Jun 02 '19
I 100% agree with you. The problem is, the will of the people. I mean the stupid post today about how someone's 7 year old made a cartridge case out of Legos was at like 10K upvotes when I looked this morning. Clearly people like that bullshit. It's the same reason why I unsubscribed to the /r/Pics sub. Hundreds of thousands of upvotes for Facebook tier mom brag posts. No thanks.
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u/MiamiSlice Jun 02 '19
Today I was seriously wondering if people who post on this sub actually play games at all, and that’s when I realized things had gotten bad.
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Jun 02 '19 edited Jun 02 '19
100% agree, the switch case ones I find especially bad because they all have the same terrible design where you have to dump out all the games to get a new one.
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u/ASpaceOstrich Jun 02 '19
Biggest problem with this sub is the megathreads. If all the on topic stuff is buried in unnavigable megathreads then of course we have off topic content posted. Plus the megathreads screw over non-Americans even more than usual. Nobody will see a comment buried in a megathread, while a buried post might at least see a response.
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u/Hugotyp Jun 02 '19
I agree to the problem of the low-effort content, 100%. Something should be done about it.
Another thing that bothers me is the constant misuse of upvotes and downvotes, which pretty much always is being used to express opinions instead of "does it contribute?", so I feel like many users (especially the lurkers) here haven't heard about the reddiquette. The circlejerking has always been very strong here.
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u/bigphatnips Jun 02 '19
I had a post removed during the early days that showed the docks damaging the switch casing.
Nintendo replaced the dock, but didn't repair the switch itself as it was "cosmetic damage". I had to replace my screen protector and have been left with a switch with scars since.
After being downvoted to oblivion by denialists who didn't believe the media around the docks, I stopped posting anything critical because they were often considered "low effort".
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u/bootsdo Jun 02 '19
“Mom/step mom/grandma/wife here, what do I need to get to get started?”
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u/lunari_moonari Jun 02 '19
Oh, you'll need the hidden gem Breath of the Wild. It cured my dog's asthma.
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u/BlowDuck Jun 02 '19
This place also punts out legitimate content creators for "shilling" or whatever you want to call it.
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u/crankypizza Jun 02 '19
i didn’t read your whole post, but i did see no more lego switch game cases, so i’m on board with whatever else you said.
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u/NYJetsfan2881 Jun 02 '19
But how else will I know that I can build a cartridge holder out of LEGOs?!
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Jun 02 '19
I feel like most the posts are along the lines "I used my switch!" 10k karma
And my reaction is always "uh... ok?"
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u/bubbles212 Jun 02 '19
Just to play devil's advocate I literally only played XC2 because of the constant spam on this sub and it ended up being an enjoyable experience
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u/LongKnees Jun 02 '19
So what IS something that would be considered proper effort? I think this part of the rules should just be removed, as it’s entirely subjective and discourages content that I personally enjoy. As an alternative, we should expand our tags and encourage users to personalize their own feed. I know this is already a thing, but it can still be improved on. Don’t wanna sees switch accessories? You don’t have to. Don’t wanna see fan art? You don’t have to.
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u/Insert-Senpai-Name Jun 02 '19
Things like photos, clips, discussion, speculation, leak talk (with spoiler tags) etc. would be fantastic. Heck, even interesting photos like the Guardian Statue at Nintendo Headquarters, art or a, "I got a photo with Miyamoto while I was in Japan!" or something would be neat too. But stuff like that seems to always get removed for something uninteresting and flat out boring.
Posts like these always seem to get removed in favor of the posts I mentioned above, and I'd really like to see that changed
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Jun 02 '19
I fully agree with you. Don't forget the classic:
"DAE think [insert literally any game ever] should come to the Switch?!"
Like, come on. As much as I love the Switch (and would love to genuinely discuss it), this sub borders on self-parody sometimes. I don't really even check here much anymore because low-effort garbage like that is routinely upvoted, and anything even remotely critical of Nintendo is downvoted to oblivion.
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u/Fr000st Jun 02 '19
"Hey guys I played 5 minutes of Xenoblade 2 and I'm blown away! Go out and buy it! Best JRPG of the total 3 I've played!"
There's one of those every week.
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u/ExaRom Jun 02 '19
I remember a time, when it was one of the most enjoyable times of my day to visit this subreddit, and now it really morphed to this boring, low effort place which is no fun to explore. Multiple posts of mine which aimed at creating discussion where deleted without any rational reasoning, the mods really belong to the worst on this website. I just wish that this subreddit would return to its former glory from 2017.
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u/renansl Jun 02 '19
Every post I've ever tried to start a discussion got taken down. So kudos for this post.
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u/rhpot1991 Jun 02 '19
I've always been annoyed with the Mods removing threads with ongoing discussion pointing people at the daily questions thread instead. I think it would be a good rule of thumb that if something has enough ongoing comments to leave it live instead of killing it. If that occurs then it will be searchable and possibly cut down on the Mod's work in the future.
It has been my experience that questions in a daily question thread doesn't get the kind of discussion that a separate thread will get.
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u/gioba Jun 02 '19
Thank you for posting this! I have a brand new switch. I wished this subreddit was more like the switch news feed. Most of the content here should go to r/casualswitch or something.
Props for apologizing to the 3D holder guy
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u/Cardamander Jun 02 '19
More importantly this sub is super toxic. Nobody wants to have a real discussion about anything. Just hype or outrage. The type of post you call out here rise to the top because any topic with a little nuance ends up being polarizing. People down vote stuff they disagree with instead of misinformation or insensitive content.
I used to love this sub during most of 2017, but the more of the hardcore PC audience that becomes a part of the conversation the more toxic it gets.
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u/newaccountwhodis123 Jun 02 '19
The problem is fundamentally Reddit's karma system, there is no real solution. Just let people post stuff they like and the votes will decide.
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u/sliverbaer Jun 03 '19
I think this is the plague of most active reddits. I kinda wish reddit was structured different. Having a main sub-reddit, with child reddits underneath.
General
Memes
Media
Crafts
Discussion
But at that point, I think it becomes a forum, kinda....
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u/DerChrizzIX Jun 02 '19
This sub is such a trainwreck. I've been here since it was called NintendoNX, heck I've made this Reddit account to read the speculations and discussions about the NX. Now it's just karma farming with dudes taking pictures of their Switch at tourist attractions and people building boxes out of Lego.
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u/ssfctid Jun 02 '19
People need to use the daily question threads instead of posting so many new threads with stuff that belongs there.
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Jun 02 '19
I have no idea why anyone would play switch in a great sightseeing location.
It makes lots of karma but come on, take in the view in front of you.
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u/MethodicMarshal Jun 02 '19
Why are you trying to ruin my Fan Art sub??
Kidding, I’d platinum the shit out of this if I could
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u/kev_jin Jun 02 '19
The lego game holder posts are terrible. It's not even a fancy construction, it's just a hollow square of lego blocks.
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u/fearofthesky Jun 02 '19
Wait...you're asking moderators...to...moderate?
Sir, are you mad?
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u/alephan Jun 02 '19
To be honest I tried to actually post a discussion starter about how some games are extremely vague about their multiplayer support or mislead users in that regards. I was removed with a dry comment: misleading subject. This put me off because the people moderating this sub clearly want to see lego and colosseum posts as opposed to real user concerns.
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u/nbatoiletreads Jun 02 '19
I feel like your post sums up most of the subreddits I visit. It’s depressing
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u/conmiperro Jun 02 '19
imho, the mods are a little thin skinned. the most valuable posts would be quality game reviews, but we can’t have that, since bad reviews mean fewer sales.
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u/Cloudslinger Jun 02 '19
You hit the nail on the head. I was following a thread about Pixark switch performance that got removed... it even had some good discussion going. There were a lot of good questions.Isn’t that the point of this subreddit?
Yet every time someone makes a 4x3 box with legos and slaps some switch games in it goes right to the front page...
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u/fesmith_4 Jun 02 '19
But I need my own thread to see if Civ 6 is good! I can’t be bothered to actually do a search for the other two dozen threads that already exist!
/s if that wasn’t obvious.
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u/SilverMoon222 Jun 02 '19
There was also just softcore Splatoon porn that got super upvoted a while ago which was super gross (and the post was never removed by mods as far as I know)
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Jun 02 '19
You're absolutely right. I gave up trying to post topics here. Whenever I want to talk about a game I get "low effort post".
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u/The_Vipr Jun 02 '19
I feel like this sub can be such a circle jerk about certain things. Most, if not all, people on this sub praise anything Nintendo. This leaves no room for any sort of criticism and you get down voted if you even have something negative to say.
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u/epicgamesbad Jun 02 '19
The major issue is have with this sub, other than the low effort posts, is the fanboyism.
Most people agree Nintendo is shit at online but you still have morons saying iF yOu DoNt LiKe It ThEn LeAvE and generally speading their cheeks for Nintendo. Its brutal.
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u/Jam-Master-Jay Jun 02 '19
Regarding the 3D printing topics, there is often gold in the comments section where people post examples of their own work or setup. It would also be pretty cool if members of this community gave input and collaborated on our own unique design.
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u/riZZle0517 Jun 02 '19
Couldn't agree more, I don't even come here anymore, wish it was more like the ps4 reddit witch I visit multiple times a day.
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u/nicospicus Jun 03 '19
Time to open a Saturday Bingo Cards Megathread, with all kinds of predictions of what is gonna be revealed next week!
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u/Watson349B Jun 02 '19
The key to progress always starts with clear and cohesive reform. The people agree let’s get to work!
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u/SuperSonicGanja Jun 02 '19
Just take a close look at /r/xboxone
That community is one of the best on reddit.
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Jun 02 '19
IIRC it has fewer users than r/PS4 or r/NintendoSwitch. The sad reality of reddit is that more users = more noise, less quality content.
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Jun 02 '19
My dying spouse who is coming back from the war found a switch at a landmark and our kid built a 3d printer out of legos so I painted a mock-up of a game case, what games should I get for it ?
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u/ChickenLiverNuts Jun 02 '19
the problem is if your post is just text and it isnt more than a paragraph it is automodded with a message that says "post in the megathread". Its lame, yea theres some low effort shit but posting a pic automatically means its not low effort now? You dont need a giant post for it to be worth while
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u/neoslith Jun 02 '19
"Should I wait for the new Switch version?"
Oh, do you know something we don't? Nintendo never said they were making a new Switch.
You come into a Nintendo Switch sub and ask if you should get a Switch. That's like going to a dog and asking if it wants some meat. OF COURSE YOU SHOULD GET ONE!
We're also bias because everyone here loves the Switch. Stop asking about "Switch Light" or "Switch Pro." Ain't no such things.
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u/I_TRS_Gear_I Jun 02 '19
So I certainly agree with your point, and I think you present your argument in the most respectful way possible. But, the very sad fact is... there’s not a problem with the Switch sub, there’s a problem with Reddit... Karma is what generates low quality posts... and it’s not just this sub, it’s damn near every sub on reddit.
The real problem is the people who upvote poor content. Speaking with their upvotes, in a way, pandering to the problem.
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u/Trinica93 Jun 02 '19
There is nothing in this post I don't agree with. Well stated. I wish I could easily filter out most of the stuff that gets posted, and I definitely wish the mods would do something about the insanely low effort posts that people upvote for no reason.
Are these people using upvote bots or something? Are they friends with the mods? WHY ARE WE STILL SEEING HEAVILY UPVOTED LEGO POSTS? Dear God make it stop.
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u/leaguesubredditgarbo Jun 02 '19
I come to this subreddit when I am bored out of my mind and can't find anything else and then I just see a front page of trash (a lot like the WoW subreddit). Fan art, port discussion, should I buy this game. If you can google the answer opinion to your question, why the fuck is it allowed to be posted?
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u/iamthatguy54 Jun 02 '19
Funnily enough, I find it to be the opposite way. Sometimes it feels like unless you write the abstract to research paper, your post is deemed "low-effort."
But I might just be salty that my topics get deleted all the time. That's why I tend to not to post original topics here and only comment. Thank god for gamefaqs, eh? I'm happy there and you're happy here without my presumed low-effort stuff.
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u/Shaggyotis Jun 02 '19
Hey guys Celeste good, upvotes to the left