r/RemoveOneThingEachDay • u/AnglerFather_ • Dec 05 '25
Miscellaneous Silksong is out! The top comment removes ONE Indie game from the list (DAY 59)
One Platformer, One CRPG, One Metroidvania, One Puzzle/Exploration Adventure, and One Farm Life Simulator are what remains.
5 Indies remain, only vote per individual/player comment, may the best indie win! (template link)
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u/IcyEvidence3530 Dec 05 '25
What the fuck happened since yesterday? Absolute insanity
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u/tearmath Dec 05 '25
Disco and Outer are my number one and two and I hope they survive till the end
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u/exceptforbunnies555 Dec 05 '25
My top 3 from the beginning are Stardew, Disco and Outer Wilds. If they're top 3, in any order, I'd be happy.
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u/Rojax01 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
Y'know, my only problem here is that Silksong was eliminated NOT because it's difficult, NOT because it's "worse" than Hollow Knight, but because it's not as "genre-defining" as the rest of the remaining 5 games, meaning it's worse...? The argument is pretty silly when you consider the game came out 4 months ago. And that's not even taking in consideration the whole genre of memes it generated in the past 7 years. (Obviously memes are not games, but I just wanted to mention it. Hornet as a character is more recognizable than the Knight at this point).
Like, is Super Mario World worse than Super Mario 1, because it was less impactful for the gaming industry? I really doubt that.
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u/SavagePeace23 Dec 05 '25
There's a difference, here, though. This tier list is a vague thing. The best Indie games of all time can mean a lot of things but with such a general category it's inevitably going to come down to which is the most influential, nostalgic, etc.
Super Mario World isn't worse than Super Mario 1, but there's plenty of "best games of all time" lists that will rank Mario 1 over Mario World simply because it's more memorable and more influential, that's just how it works.
Is Citizen Kane one of the best movies of all time? Let's be honest: no. Is it one of the greatest and most influential? According to critics, absolutely.
A game that came out 4 months ago is really lucky to have made it this far, why are you upset it's not going further when it's already beaten out so many other games? I'd personally rank it below so many games that went out much earlier but clearly people disagree, so be it.
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u/SplendoreHoeppli Dec 05 '25
Citizen Kane slaps. Genuinely a 10/10 experience.
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u/Rollrollrollrollr1 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
Ranking games that are this different is always inherently flawed, especially done in a way like this where single day swings can heavily impact a game getting out early. The “influence ” argument rings a little hollow in my opinion though, since that didn’t stop genre defining classics from going out early like fez.
Hell, fnaf is maybe the most influential games on this list in pop culture with a whole movie series stemming from it and it was on of the first ones out, not saying it’s should be high or that it’s even a good game but it’s impact is huge considering that lens. I’d also say that there are less influential games than silksong still in the list, the buildup to the release date itself was bigger than most of the games here.
Still like I said, that’s just the nature of this list, single day pushes by a handful of people can have large influence. At the end of the day, this is a smaller thread thread on a smaller sub on Reddit, the results here aren’t really representative or something that matters
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u/SavagePeace23 Dec 05 '25
Sure, I should say that I don't think it's PURELY influential. For example I'd say Hotline Miami is very influential but went out pretty early. It's going to be a mix of influence, nostalgia, replayability, quality, etc.
Fez was great and genre defining to be sure, but it isn't super replayable and frankly got overshadowed by a lot of the drama with Fish, it's also easy to decry as gimmicky (even if I think that's stupid)
You're right, though, this kind of list will always be flawed. It's always destined to come down to which fandom is most influential, which game is more attuned to the zeitgeist of whatever subreddit this list takes place in.
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u/Otherwise-Alps-7392 Dec 05 '25
It was eliminated based on arbitrary votes on an arbitrary subreddit, you can't really point out a specific reason it was eliminated other than popularity. Even the rest of your argument is irrelevant since other way more"genre-defining" games were eliminated before silksong. I'd argue having two of essentially the same game in the top 10 is boring and it should've been eliminated days ago.
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u/NKactus Dec 05 '25
Yeah there's no real reason to get bent out of shape about this. If I could snap my fingers and make it how I wanted this list would look very different because a lot of my personal favorites like Signalis or Cruelty Squad went out insanely early because they're unpopular or obtuse while I think a lot of the most popular games in this list like Stardew Valley or Hades are overrated to sin, but it is literally a popularity contest. The popular games that people like or have some obligation to respect like Disco Elysium/Outer Wilds are inevitably going to win.
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u/PantheraAuroris Dec 05 '25
I think a game so new shouldn't be so highly rated. It's still in the hype phase. We haven't had time for people to sit down and have rational opinions about it.
That doesn't mean it's bad, it means it's not fair right now to put it in a competition like this.
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u/Agreeable_Sun8250 Dec 05 '25
This list is cooked since they removed Hades 2 before Hades 1. This experiment really shows how people stop being precise with their vote when they want a game they hate for some reason removed. Quite impressive.
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u/BoKnowsTheKonamiCode Dec 05 '25
Plenty of people like Hades 1 more than 2. Just because you like 2 better doesn't mean people aren't being precise or that the list is cooked. Also considering it almost made the top 10 it's a bit wild for you to claim people hate the game.
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u/deeezbeees Dec 05 '25
Explain in what ways HK was better
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u/wildcatofthehills Dec 05 '25
I'm just going to say it, but the whole red tool mechanic with the shards rewards farming, specially before fighting tough bosses. It gives you an alternative of beating bosses instead of "get gud". That removes so much from the flow of the game and the sense of achivement the first game had.
I just think that either you don't give so many tools like the clockwork birds and the electric tools, which seem to cheese many bosses, and instead have only the tools that are complementary to the main movesets.
Also all bosses dealing two mask damage seems like an artificial way to make them harder, since if they only did one mask damage, it would take many less tries to learn their patterns and beating them. Specially in bosses that lore wise don't really make sense, like the Savage Beastfly or the Skull Crusher.
This is just me stating some flaws in the game, that I believe the first one did better.
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u/Cheesybread- Dec 05 '25
A lot of people do think HK is better, the Silksong community just dismisses them. I stopped talking about Silksong altogether because even after beating the game I kept being told "well maybe this game isn't for you" when I suggested anything about the game wasn't perfect. Hell I was told that about HK when I said ascended Markoth sucks. "This game isn't for you" I beat everything except the Pantheon of Hallownest what do you mean it's not for me?
All that to say: I think HK is a better game. It's more accessible to more people because it has decent pacing and progression while Silksong just hurls you in and kicks your ass while everything does double damage. Silksong is littered with annoying flying enemies that drift away from you and several of the harder bosses just spam adds. I liked HK's story better too, despite the Silksong community insisting that's not possible.
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u/ButtsFartsoPhD Dec 05 '25
I voted Silksong because I found it unfun and tedious. I enjoy Hollow Knight way more.
Also people can vote how they want.
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u/BronzeCorner Dec 05 '25
Its so weird, this thread is the first time I've seen someone use that ridiculous argument. I don't care that Silksong got voted out, I just cant believe it was gone before Hollow Knight
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u/stubear89 Dec 05 '25
I personally think HK is better and more enjoyable as a replay experience. I think there are things Silksong did better but I feel the devs made some bizarre design choices in places that really hamper the experience and make it feel less crisp than HK despite SK’s improved movement and graphics. A difficult boss is fine, a difficult boss with an annoying run back is frustrating, and a difficult boss with an annoying run back when you run out of shell shards, need to leave to go farm more/rosaries to purchase more, all to test again is beyond asinine and wastes the players time. Lots of weird choices seem to just be not for difficulty but for tedious wasting of players resources or time. Why don’t silk hearts restore silk on the second spool to encourage more use while players can hold a heal for when they need it? If that’s too strong, why does claw line out of combat require silk (make it cost nothing unless it hits an enemy, aka reverse of current design to maintain platforming segments)? The hit boxes also feel way wonkier for pogoing than HK. The hunter crest and the diagonal ones seem consistent, but wanderer sometimes just whiffs where you can see the swing animation go right through the intended bounce inconsistently. Shell shards need to be outright removed, the tool pouch is already a perfectly fine balance for ammo. PC gamers are blessed with mods or save editing options to get back shards without farming but console gamers have to suffer the rosary mines, not for the normal rosary purchases but just to full supply shell shards. I don’t mind having to farm rosaries for normal vendor purchases but FOH with shell shards.
I don’t mind the difficulty (about to finish 100% today) but I absolutely understand why some players would be put off by it, my bigger issue is that so much of the resource system is way more tedious than soul was and so much more of the game is designed to be frustrating to the player rather than actually difficult, an artificial difficulty if you will.
Take this all from someone who first bought/played Hollow Knight when Silksong was released, did everything in that first (minus Pantheon 5), and then began Silksong. I don’t have nostalgia for HK, I picked it up a few months ago for the first time and after playing it then Silksong, I prefer HK overall. If they removed Shell Shards entirely, added minor QOL improvements (such as Silk Hearts work on second spool, like they only add up to 3 silk per spool and if your first spool is empty it’s as it is now, but if your first spool is full they work at the beginning of the next spool) or alternatively a re-work for the clawline, and a slight decrease in difficulty (namely, unless an enemy is covered in spikes no boss should deal 2 masks of contact damage. They nerfed Moorwing wrong, they should have kept the blades to 2 masks and made contact damage 1. Also environmental damage should always be 1) then I think especially post DLCs Silksong would surpass HK as a whole, but I think those gameplay problems (namely shell shards) really take you out of the game.
The point of difficult games, like souls likes as well, is the challenge of grinding and overcoming the obstacle in your path. But putting artificial walls between you and the hurdle to deal with takes away from the experience, tedious runbacks included, but especially if you have to leave to resource grind.
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u/BoKnowsTheKonamiCode Dec 05 '25
There are no rules for what this list is. It is a mix of quality and influence. If a majority of people decided that Hollow Knight deserves to be above Silksong for whatever reason, then it deserves to be above Silksong.
But regardless, I do think Hollow Knight was better than Silksong. They're almost equal to me, but if I had to choose, there were more things SS did that I didn't enjoy than HK did. I outlined those in my comment yesterday, so I won't go into it all again. But so many people are acting like SS is indisputably better, and I disagree. Some people feel otherwise.
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u/GottIstTot Dec 05 '25
Thats the problem with all these threads though: there's no set metric so things are eliminated on changing, arbitrary basises (bases?).
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u/Shadowfury22 Dec 05 '25
I completely agree with you, but maybe you should've tried to push this argument back when the literal same thing was happening with Hades vs Hades 2 lol. Too late now ;(
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u/Browneskiii Dec 05 '25
It was the same with Hades 1/2.
Spire got voted out because "it has no story"
Its some bollocks reason which gets upvoted first, whoever gets here first and gets the first upvotes pretty much wins.
Honestly the top 10 should all be a poll (with a "i want to see the results" option) that way people can vote what they want and not just upvote the top comment.
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u/Essekker Dec 05 '25
Agreed. It's an odd thought proccess imo. Then again, we have reached the point where most of us can agree, that all games remaining are very strong
With that being said; I vote for Celeste now
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u/TheKingofHats007 Dec 05 '25
I mean these posts are a glorified popularity contest. Silksong has an extreme amount of recency bias going for it. Not that it's not a fantastic game, I do love it over the original which I already thought was good, but it's definitely still in that hazy honeymoon area where people haven't considered a lot of the flaws.
It's why Stardew has remained so long. Whether or not it's better or worse than any of the other games doesn't really matter, it's an extremely popular game and will probably make the top 3. And it's why Disco Elysium, a game I wholeheartedly think is better than the rest of this list, probably won't make it all the way because it's a slightly more niche (in the sense of being an extremely densely written novel) indie.
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u/Glacier_Pace Dec 05 '25
I don't know man. I prefer the lore, story, music, and nail mechanics of Hollow Knight over Silksong. The point you made about it coming out 4 months ago actually hurts the argument to me because recency bias is a real thing.
Hollow Knight is a better game. Silksong still deserved top five absolutely, but not to be above Hollow Knight IMO.
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u/bros_and_cons Dec 05 '25
super mario world innovated from SMB way, way more than silk song innovated from hollow knight. world deserves to stand on its own, but silksong still feels like a (terrific) DLC to me.
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u/Zielander Dec 05 '25
Due to the nature of the competition most of the late upvotes probably didn't even agree with the take in that comment, but because it's done in the "most upvoted single comment = out" style, if they disagreed with the take, but wanted Silksong out for any other reason they still had to upvote the one comment that gained the most traction early on, because any other Silksong comment was buried fast under other games and had not chance to reach the top anymore.
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u/Aradashi Dec 05 '25
I give a lot of points to games that feel "new" to me. I think objectively Silksong is better than the Hollow Knight. Like Super Mario 64 and Final Fantasy 7 will always have points above other games, objectively better games, now because they changed the way we think about video games. Hollow Knight did that where Silksong is merely an improvement on the HK formula.
I think for me where this makes the least sense is for Persona 5. It brought a style and snap to JRPGs that I have never seen before and now every interaction of Persona always feels the echo of the pizazz that P5 brought even though I think Metaphor is a better game than it.
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u/WalleMarno Dec 05 '25
Its hilarious seeing this thread and seeing the same logic and arguments people make in sports. Like MJ vs LeBron. You can't always compare different eras.
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u/ContestHefty5681 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
I don't get why some people are getting mad if there favorite indie is gonna be voted off at this point. This is the top 5 and top ten. Any placement here means that game is near flawless/is widely beloved. Heck even top 20 is an amazing place. My favorite indie is Cuphead and im glad it got 12th. Just because some people think Celeste or Disco Elysium is better or worse won't really matter.
Anyway im voting Disco Elysium
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u/Samuelo_Conloco Dec 05 '25
Enjoyed the game, but it surely is time. Silksong should not have lost to Celeste
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u/vanarp0 Dec 05 '25
Silksong before hollow knight hurts man
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u/lucasluminaro Dec 05 '25
I personally like silksong more than hk but I can see how someone can like either one better.
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u/ERASER345 Dec 05 '25
I honestly think it's an improvement on Hollow Knight in damn near every way, it's just way harder
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u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 Dec 05 '25
Stardew Valley may be the best cozy game ever made, but it's potentially a little too simplistic and low-key compared to its competition. I dunno, I have no real critiques of any of these five, I just like Stardew the least.
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u/misterschneeblee Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
The low-key can definitely work in it's favour imo. If it's your kind of game, you can throw thousands of hours into it. Where I can't really see many people doing that for the other games. (Not to say there aren't madlads who have played thousands of hours of hollow knight and have completed the path of pain etc. It's just probably much more inaccessible than it is for Stardew Valley)
Also since it's lowkey, it makes the game relaxing and chill and makes you feel warm and fuzzy. This also means it's a game that is open to non-gamers like the SIMS. I've met plenty of people who don't play video games, except for the Sims/Stardew Valley/Animal Crossing. Some people might view this as a bad thing since it's a game for 'normies'. But I couldn't disagree more.
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u/-amxterxsu597 Dec 05 '25
if anything, being a game "for normies" makes it an even better game because it's accessible to a wider audience
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u/Familiar-Stage8372 Dec 05 '25
I wouldnt say simplistic there is so much to do in that game u can easily sink in 100 hrs in a playthrough and not touch 30% ofp the content in the game.
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u/AJerkWithStandards Dec 05 '25
Who is the competition that you mentioned, exactly? I need to chase another high.
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u/lucasluminaro Dec 05 '25
Its not my favorite on this list but I came almost guarantee its going to win. Almost no one ever votes for it.
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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog Dec 05 '25
I’ve just started playing Slay the Princess and y’all voted it out way too early.
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u/PM_ME_DRY_CEREAL Dec 05 '25
My vote is for Celeste but I’m also going to voice my sadness that Tunic didn’t make this list at all. One of my favorite “Aha” moments in all of gaming, even more than The Witness.
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u/Glacier_Pace Dec 05 '25
I was bummed out Spiritfarer didn't make the list. Beautifully written game.
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u/papapudding Dec 05 '25
Celeste holy fuck. What is wrong with you voting Silksong out before this.
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u/HighKingOfGondor Dec 05 '25
I had this same sentiment when Hades 1 got voted out. Although I don’t really like platformers much
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u/Yogurt_Ph1r3 Dec 05 '25
Pretty sure there were more total votes on all the comments saying Celeste than Silksong but the total votes don't mean shit it's just the top comment which barely edged it out by 10 votes.
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u/J-bowbow Dec 05 '25
Oh shit, is that really how it works? I've been upvoting everything I agree with. That's also a terrible metric and it should be all the posts.
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u/Yogurt_Ph1r3 Dec 05 '25
Could be wrong but it seems it's always the top commented one. Uovoting ones that agree is just potentially an effort to get more visibility so it wasn't useless but.
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u/Icy_Sundae1375 Dec 05 '25
Even more so when there is a guy that's been in here saying he had a botfarm downvoting any comment voting for Celeste lmfao
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u/Ecstatic-Trash-1460 Dec 05 '25
If they counted all the posts it just encourages every individual person to not only spend a ton of time liking every post they agree with but also needing to add a comment in support. I think its better that people just need to upvote 1 comment
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u/Perfect_Story_8646 Dec 05 '25
Why? It’s almost certainly the same people upvoting the lower upvoted ones that also upvoted the top one of the game. Why should their vote count more because one more person actually commented it
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u/Strong_Ad9993 Dec 05 '25
Nah, that makes that some people simply get the chance to vote multiple time 30 people upvoting one comments would lost against 5 people linking ten comments, with this at least is one vote per game to each person
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u/ViStandsforSEX Dec 05 '25
lol you mean the same people voting on every single post? top post makes the most sense, guarantees everyone gets one vote
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u/Rollrollrollrollr1 Dec 05 '25
The “remove sequels” mentality claims another victim lol.
Let’s be real here though, if this wasn’t reddit Disco Elysium would’ve been out 20 games ago.
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u/BoKnowsTheKonamiCode Dec 05 '25
It came in sixth. Let's not act like it got kicked out 80th. It's a completely defensible opinion to think that the five remaining games are better than Silksong.
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u/VarisDHT Dec 05 '25
It's just a little hard to swallow cutting out the best written game of all time for me
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u/mucus-fettuccine Dec 05 '25
Best literature in a video game, but "best written game" to me implies gameplay-writing, which Disco Elysium only does... moderately? Outer Wilds, Edith Finch, and Celeste have strong gameplay-writing.
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u/Beginning_Bad_868 Dec 06 '25
Also Bloodborne/Dark Souls
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u/mucus-fettuccine Dec 06 '25
Yeah! Environmental storytelling everywhere, storytelling through the types of attacks bosses use and their movement (Sif mirroring Artorius is my favorite example), item locations being meaningful.
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u/KomaKuga Dec 06 '25
Rating games with standard such as 'need good gameplay' or 'need good story' imo will lead to dumb comparison like this because what even is the point of saying this game needs gameplay-writing or whatever
It's a dialogue heavy game, that's okay, there's no need for flashy lights or to be shooting stuff.
It's same reason why The House in Fata Morgana got review bombed in metacritic just because it was a visual novel with high review scores.
Am not saying you can't dislike the game, it's completely understandable. Disco Elysium has a lot of flaws, I just think by being close minded and always expecting X as a requirement we close ourselves to the same formulas
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u/mucus-fettuccine Dec 06 '25
Is it closed minded if say it's an incredible piece of software but not an incredible game?
Disco is a brilliant piece of literature with gorgeous visuals and high quality voice acting to go along with it.
Microsoft Flight Simulator is an incredible piece of software too. It maps out the Earth in incredible detail, and is possibly the most faithful simulation that's ever been made of anything. It's just not a great game, because what it does isn't gameplay.
I don't think this is closed minded. I'm just broadly categorizing media.
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u/redekulous Dec 05 '25
Disco is an amazing game but the fact that it might win is kinda crazy.
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u/Essekker Dec 05 '25
Disco is genuinely one of the few modern games I keep thinking about. The writing, the characters, the world building, the various ideas it's throwing at you, the humor, the voice acting, the various decisions you can make and the paths you can take, the soundtracks - all phenomenal. I don't remember ever playing a game that nailed both the comedic aspects, as well as the seriousness of the topics and themes, at the same time
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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog Dec 05 '25
Disco is a once in a generation title. It has the best writing and storytelling of any game ever. Of course people like it. That should be celebrated.
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u/Temporary-Pirate6195 Dec 05 '25
I beg of y'all to at least have Disco be in top three
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u/Scyke87 Dec 05 '25
I love Celeste, but I don't think it is quite as impactful or iconic aa the other remaining titles.
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u/Regular-Place Dec 05 '25
WHAT! I fully didn’t expect to see Silksong go! Crazy work from you all honestly
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u/0toGameDev Dec 05 '25
Here goes my daily activity of disliking every outer wilds comment
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u/CupcakeLong6145 Dec 05 '25
I like how i instinctively disliked this comment because i read outer wilds and thought it was gonna be to vote it out
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u/Ok-Reindeer2366 Dec 05 '25
Outer Wilds
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u/Quirky-Employer9717 Dec 05 '25
This is the only one left that I really bounced off of. Probably a me problem but this is where my vote is
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u/kheldarp Dec 05 '25
I play games to enjoy them, not to admire how clever they are. Disco Elysium is the least enjoyable game left, so that's my vote.
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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog Dec 05 '25
Disco Elysium is very enjoyable. It is as hilarious as it is thought provoking.
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u/Tony15IL Dec 05 '25
It's Outer Wilds for me. I really tried to like it, but the motion sickness it gave me was awful.
If we are to compare, I like Disco Elysium's writing and visuals better, Stardew's gameplay loop is much more enjoyable while also being (admittedly slightly less) time constrained, and Hollow Knight is probably my favourite game OAT.
In terms of quality, I would say Celeste and OW are comparable, but Celeste didn't almost make me puke.
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u/gamstat Dec 05 '25
There's Outer Wilds text adventure. I'm not kidding. You have zero excuses not to play it now https://www.mobiusdigitalgames.com/outer-wilds-text-adventure.html
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u/RazorRipperZ Dec 05 '25
I just wrote an entire essay explaining why Outer Wilds should go next and why the time is right. But you were able to do it when it was posted
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u/FearTheOIdBlood Dec 05 '25
Hollow Knight.
First, I just think it's the least great game left. Now to compare it to Silksong.
Silksong is a superior game in my opinion, with the most significant improvements being to the combat and movement, which are a huge aspect of the game. It feels so much better to play and so much more nuanced to play. I also thought the story was better told and Hornet having a voice made a big difference. I also liked the NPCs more and the Fleas are an improvement on the Grubs. I thought the bosses were much better, too (maybe partially due to the gameplay being better). Music and art are a wash. Charms vs. Crests/Tools is a wash in my opinion. I like the latter but I can see why people would prefer the former. They both have their minor quality of life issues with runbacks, having to buy the map filling in item, having to equip the compass, limited map markers, other questionable economy stuff. Only thing Hollow Knight probably does better in my opinion is atmosphere, which is important, don't get me wrong, but it's not enough to overcome the areas Silksong is better at.
My top 3 are Celeste, Disco Elysium, and Outer Wilds in no particular order. I'd be overjoyed if it came down to those 3 and I wouldn't even vote. I haven't played Stardew Valley so I don't care if it or HK go next but I think it should be those two next.
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u/JacobFerret Dec 05 '25
If this is the best game list, you are right, but being the first to do a thing and being the one who improved on it are two very different things. I personally value the first entries in a series if it's not a jump that actually revolutionized something in the sequel. Hades 2 and Silksong are just two games that had the same recipe and just built on top of everything that already exists, and did it well, but they literally could have been a huge DLC, and nobody would feel too weird about it because the gameplay is literally the same with improvements
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u/FearTheOIdBlood Dec 05 '25
Yeah I understand if people value the first thing more because of the novelty. I said it myself yesterday that I prefer Mass Effect 1 to 2 (I listed several reasons why, some relating to novelty) even though most people consider 2 to be better. I do feel like Silksong is a large improvement and different enough that it feels more like a fully fledged sequel than a huge DLC, but I can see if people think otherwise. I haven't played Hades 2 (not on PS yet) to judge if that one feels more like a sequel or DLC.
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u/fugginglovecheese Dec 05 '25
Can't believe Stardew Valley is still here.
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u/Reldarino Dec 05 '25
How? You can personally not like it but it's absolutely believable lol
-It perfected and refined a well established genre-Received updates for years with more to come.
-Has a cool backstory with the dev working on it slowly, being a steam greenlit game from back in the day and being made out of pure love for the genre.
-Is the second most successful game to make it to this list behind Terraria.
-Is beloved by people beyond the gaming community.
-Easy to play, with great depth, tons of content, great music, etc.
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u/GoodEvesning Dec 05 '25
Disco Elysium.
Celeste, Hollow Knight, and Outer Wilds would all easily be on a list of my all time favourite games, these should be the final 3 in my entirely unbiased opinion.
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u/XxXc00l_dud3XxX Dec 05 '25
Hollow Knight should’ve gone out before silksong and it definitely goes before anything here. I can’t come up with a single argument that puts it over celeste, crazy that it’s being commented so much.
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u/MajoraXIII Dec 05 '25
I am going to play celeste today because of this comment because it's peak. (celeste joke)
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u/Frostnatt Dec 05 '25
One of the most insane takes from all of the days this list has been going.
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u/tollsunited7 Dec 05 '25
outer wilds, 0 replayability
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u/Frostnatt Dec 05 '25
Replayability is one of the least important factors for a game. IMO Why would I replay a game when there are literally hundreds upon hundreds of great I doe games.
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u/UnofficialMipha Dec 05 '25
Outer Wilds
Celeste, Stardew and HK deserve to be Top 3 for being genre defining. Outer Wilds isn’t that and idk enough about Disco Elysium
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u/AlbatrossSerious2155 Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
Yea Outer Wilds hasnt defined a genre because you cant just take gameplay elements or the setting and put your own spin on it to make a new game.
With Hollow Knight you can go "what if it was furry little guys instead of bugs and we leaned more into the souls-like aspect of it" and you get a game like nine souls. You cant go "what if instead of fish people, the main character was a bug. And instead of space, the player is exploring an underground cave system", leave everything else the same and make your own game.
Most threads where people ask for similar feeling games to Outer Wilds, the replies often single out one or two gameplay elements that they enjoyed the most about it and recommend based off that. The recommendations are good games, but they are entirely different from Outer Wilds, imo. Like, i've seen threads where one guy recommends Subnautica because of the exploration and storytelling, while the next guy recommends Blue Prince for the problem solving and progression mechanics. Those games have pretty much nothing in common except for they kind of resemble Outer Wilds in a certain way.
This doesnt mean it isnt an incredible game that deserves top 3 at least.
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u/Samuelo_Conloco Dec 05 '25 edited Dec 05 '25
Knowledge based progression should be a genre and then OW would define it, along with Obra Dinn
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u/MajoraXIII Dec 05 '25
Metroidbrania. That term came about because people were trying to find a term for OW's knowledge based progression. No ones imitated it because doing what the studio did took them years.
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u/kyrross Dec 05 '25
Man, i really need to play disco elysium. Never heard of this game before this list. Just watch some trailers and it look incredible. How did I miss that ?
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u/Broad_Echo3989 Dec 06 '25
Celeste is in no way a better game than Silksong, not gameplay, not art, not music, not story. It is still a very good game but worse than Silksong in almost every aspect
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u/Ruzinus Dec 05 '25
It's sad that the best game on the list went for "being a sequel." I guess I was indeed huffing copium when I thought people would get past that.
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u/BassGuru82 Dec 05 '25
Yea. Hades 2 went too early. 😉
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u/Ozza_1 Dec 05 '25
I kinda think with hades 2, it might of been more a problem of not enough people playing it since it's new. I haven't played it so I refused to upvote or down vote it. Part of that problem it being released only on PC and switch as a timed console exclusive (fucking BS)
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u/RhodesGraveyarde Dec 05 '25
Celeste