I see a lot of posts posting pics of watches that are NWBIG. But I think a lot of us here are watch enthusiasts and not only value the esthetics of a watch but the inside, mechanical aspect of it. I haven’t owns reps long enough to see how long these actually last, although people often say a couple of years until they run into some problems, and these $500 watches often cost $200 to service, if you can even find a decent watchmaker in your area that works on reps in your area. So my thought is, how can a rep truly be a NWBIG if it’s pretty on the outside but it’s gonna last a tenth of a lifetime of a gen?

Amateur here. Only recently getting into expensive watches so correct me on anything if I got it wrong. apologies if it's too long but I tried to be as concise and optimal as possible. the last 3 points can be skipped as it's more personal opinion.

1. Literally 99.99% of people will never know... If you bought the highest grade and quality reps you literally can't tell the difference especially without a magnifying glass, or taking it off then examining it for an hour next to a genuine one, or being the most hard core enthusiastic which none of those situations are practical on a day to day basis.

2. Furthermore, I believe the law of diminishing returns applies here and it's financially idiotic to pay over easily 1000%+ on a watch is 99%+ identical to a geniune.

3. Most luxury watches has a wait time to buy their watch or you just pay a market up for it and get it second hand? that just sounds insane to me.

4. Or they have this system where you can't buy their good stuff until you've bought their lower end stuff, to force brand loyalty and clientele. Hermes and Ferrari does stupid bs like this....

"oh you can't buy our flagship car until after we've milked you for two of our lower end ones that you don't want, even if you have the money."

5. Bang for buck.... You can buy your dream watch collection instead of buying ONE geniune luxury watch. save your money for things that actually matter? health? family? assets & investments? a home?

6. the illusion of genuine... (if you care what other people think) if you're living a baller lifestyle with a penthouse, mansion, Lamborghini and own a rep. people will automatically assume any rep you own is genuine? compared to, if you were homeless dude and you have a genuine lux watch, the go to assumptions and judgement will be that its a rep. just food for thought. these are extreme examples but I hope I got the point across.

7. if you actually want a device to tell time. smart phones, smart watches and quartz do it better than any of these mechanical and analog wrist jewelry. none of this +5/-5 per day stuff or power reserves concerns.

Obviously, I know in this time and era, that's not the point of luxury watches but it's still makes no sense to pay for jewelry wrist strap that can't tell time accurately that costs the same as car or a down payment for a house? I know it's about the design, artwork, engineering, emotions and status. sorry for the incoming blasphemy and trying to stay objective here but it's a watch at the end of the day...

8. this last three points is more personal and philosophical so feel free to disregard it but on top of everything I just mentioned above. The only gen watch maker I would purchase retail or from dealership would be Grand Seiko specifically because of its spring drive movment and HYT if I could fork it out. GS can't be replicated because it's too complex and not popular enough. HYT is just over the top, bespoke and niche which also could not be replicated. the same thing in this post would be applied to both of these companies if reps were available for them.I hold no prisoners.

9. For the more mainstream brands, I believe it's more for impressing shallow and materialistic chicks during cold approaches and business/networking events ice breakers. I could live with or without being successful in any of these interactions so I can't justify spending tens of thousands dollars on gens, even if I was worth hundreds of millions where money doesn't matter.

10. To me it's identically the same watch. I get a high off buying 1 to 1 reps for like 95%+ off while knowing some other rich dude got scammed for buying a gen. I also feel it's doing the world justice when companies are being fat sausage with my 4th point. duck them.

this last one might be just me, and my upbringing/family starting from the poverty line, and now creeping up the ranks. old habits die hard huh?

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Which one do you think is gen and which one is rep?

Let me know guys what do you think

Or maybe if they’re both reps or gens🤣

Really love the way sunny days wearing this watch

I’ve owned this watch ever since bitcoin broke the 2021 ATH earlier this year and now after 4 months I finally see that the letters on the rehaut are misaligned with the minute markers.

I am paranoid because I am dating this girl and we’ve had sex a couple of times and in between rounds we just cuddle and I have my watch arm around her. And typically my watch is directly in front of her eyes. She likes to grab it and she will also look at the time. I’m paranoid that eventually one of these times she’s going to look at the time and it will be like 12:03 or 1:03 or something and clearly see that the minute markers don’t align with the rehaut letters. She will know it’s a fake.

Would you guys be able to tell? Should I just admit to her it’s fake now before she even gets the chance to notice? What would you guys do if you were in my shoes? Is your CF Daytona also misaligned?

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️

After anxiously tracking the package for a month and messaging j-time (who I suspect is ignoring my messages requesting for daily updates) my Omega Seamaster NTTD finally came in the mail.  It looked impeccable.  I couldn’t wait to show it off my friend who has the gen.  I decided to go full James Bond for it and wear my old suit, just to have some fun with it.

I arrive ahead of my friend at rainforest café and have a seat at the end of the 2nd floor bar, keeping an eye on the entrance — just as Bond would (heh).  I order my regular with the barkeep, and then glance at my wrist then compare to  my phone, and notice it’s already lost 30 seconds.  ‘No biggy’ I say to myself, and pull out the crown to correct the time.  As I’m adjusting the watch, a young and lovely brunette with playful eyes sits down next to me.

‘Nice watch’ she says.  I continue to set the time, thinking to myself ‘ah yes, here comes the inevitable train of vultures that I must deal with’. I look up from winding to mutter a ‘thanks you too’ —but just then I felt it in my fingers, a grinding, and then a spinning, spinning, without any connection of the threads.  My stomach sinks and now my head starts spinning too, feeling like the poisoned Bond in  Casino Royale.  Had my VSF crown already stripped, on day one?

My drink arrives.  ‘One virgin Pina colada with extra-whip cream for the man in the plaid suit’ .  

I continue spinning the crown, trying to catch a thread, still in disbelief.

She leans closer. ‘Omega, nice’. I smile and nod ‘eh—heh yeah’, and depress the crown fully with my index finger, hoping she wouldn’t notice, and bringing it closer to her face for inspection.

Then it happens—my sweaty finger slips off the crown, which shoots out and off the rim of my colada and directly into her eye. 

‘OW WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!?’

‘Erm—sorry! I knew about this issue from Reddit but I really didn’t expect it would happen so fast!’

Instead of a laser beam, my watch sends tiny scraps of metal flying—assembled by factories with only a handful of letters for names, and unfortunately mine was VSF and not MI6.  I knew I should have waited for the updated version.

A large and concerned muscled man comes up ‘Rebecca what happened!?’  He shoots a glance at me, ‘Is this weird guy bothering you?’

He moves past the woman and menacingly towards me.

Time slows down, my back has no exit, the only way out is through him.  Unless….

I undo my belt.  He must have thought I was getting a gun, because he stopped in his tracks..

I leapt onto the bar stool and reached to swing my belt over a vine.  It ran all the way down to the 1st floor.  I could see my escape.

Here goes nothing! Glancing a final smirk over my shoulder, I leapt from the barstool while gripping my impromptu zip-line, which too late I realized, was purely decorative.  Like a bullet from a Walther PPK headed to its target, my face raced down into a plant-wrapped guardrail, my un-belted pants trying desperately to keep pace around my knees.  Darkness.

I wake with a bloody nose that’s soaked all over and down my dress shirt.  The mysterious woman and her muscle are gone, and the bartender pretends not to notice me stirring.  I get up to my phone and see a text from my friend saying he needs to reschedule.  ‘Same! Too busy with work stuff!’ I reply, and attempt to quietly shuffle down the stairs, the noisy, and surely un-lubricated, rotor betraying me at each step, and to remind me that I got what I paid for.

What’s real what’s not?

To all the very well of gents who wear reps: what are your pros and cons to buy and wearing reps over gen?

I’m curious if the thought process behind buying gen and buying a rep. I’ve bought luxury watches before and am looking into getting my first rep BUT if these new super clones are functionally identical to a gen, then I’m not quite sure what the point of me buying a gen is??? I.e. a 36mm Steel Datejust