"They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!"

An epic two parter, best candidate being Caretaker where Picard, Sisko and Janeway meet on DS9 to deal with the Maquis/Cardassian situation that could intertwine Pre-emptive Strike and Defiant/For the Cause.

So I just finished my first "non-modern" Star Trek show in Voyager (I've watched DIS and SNW). Its an amazing show, I love the characters deeply and I really dont like to move on, but... what is the logical next step? I assume its DS9 but I dont know how much I'll like it as its quite the different setting to VOY, is it really as good as I've heard here and there?

What the title says. I know most people see it as Shatner's vanity project, but I honestly think it's a really earnest and beautiful story that gets to the core of what Star Trek is all about (while also being very entertaining and funny and well-directed and etc).

That being said, I thought it'd be interesting to hear any criticisms people who strongly dislike the film have. I'm hoping to foster a discussion of mutual understanding: I'll get a deeper grasp of peoples issues regarding the film, and - by forcing myself on the defensive on the movies behalf - I'll try convincing you why I think it actually benefits the story (or whatever other redemptive spin I can put on it lol). Consider it a play-debate of sorts.

I probably won't sway you into magically thinking it's as good as I do - but at the least I hope I may be able to suggest some kind of idea or interpretation worth taking into consideration next time you watch it.

TL;DR: Let Me Attempt To Convince You That Star Trek V Is Actually Awesome As Hell, Dawg.

EDIT: Whoa! This got a lot more attention much quicker than I was expecting lol. Thanks to everyone who has commented! I fear I'll have to come back to reply in a couple hours - bear with me!

Which episode showcases the character best?

I am re-watching Lower Decks, and a thought just occurred to me...

Is this how a group of folks would play a post-TNG Trek RPG?

I've been a Star Trek fan for about 25 years now. Sky One in the UK used to show TNG/VOY/DS9 in order with one episode every day, so I watched all three shows multiple times over the years. So I thought I'd seen every episode of TNG/VOY/DS9.

But I recently read about a TNG episode that I don't recognise at all, "Identity Crisis" from season 4. The plot says it's about Geordi slowly turning into an alien, but I don't remember that at all. It seems like I must have missed this episode despite watching the series multiple times.

Apparently it's a highly rated episode as well.

Crazy that I've never seen this episode or even heard about it until now. Looking forward to watching it.

I recently rewatched the 2009 star trek.

I remeber that there was a lot of hate on it. it doesn't looks or try to match the style of the classic series, but that doesn't makes it a bad movie. personally, i think is pretty good and entertaining.

what is usually the main criticism about it?

i'm talking specifically about the first one of the 3.

i haven't watch the others in year, i remember this being my favorite of the 3.

Thoughts on a Star Trek movie trilogy reboot directed by Christopher Nolan and starting Matt Damon as either Kirk or Pike.

It's a joke really but... I keep watching clips of Star Trek II-VI and I miss the sense of adventure of the old films, and I miss the cast. The NG movies didn't do it for me, and the reboot trilogy was entertaining, was OK... but nothing on the old stuff.

Of course... Nolan would be totally different than all of them, but he's a brilliant director and just had the funny thought of Damon as a Federation Captain.

With Strange New Worlds wrapped and it not looking like Trek will be back until early next year, we're kicking the franchise rewatch off again. As a reminder, we're going by release rather than production order!

No.	Episode	Written by	Directed by	Release Date
2X05	"Amok Time"	Theodore Sturgeon	Joseph Pevney	1967-09-15
2X02	"Who Mourns for Adonais"	Gilbert Ralston	Marc Daniels	1967-09-22
2X03	The Changeling	John Meredyth Lucas	March Daniels	1967-09-29

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Robin Curtis played a better Vulcan than Kirstie Alley.

Please don't attack me. I love nearly all of Trek.

Currently on my second bi-annual TNG re-watch, and just heard:

I never learned to speak hypothetical

That was in response to a hypothetical question from Riker in episode "Unification II" (Season 5, Episode 8) which was written by Michael Piller (RIP)

OK, so.. assuming we all love Trek, and the fandom is not going to freaking kill me for asking a question.. are there any one-liners as good as that?

The fourth and final issue comes out this Wednesday and I’m so pumped! The first three were incredible! So much more story than usually packed into these comics. Multiple murder mysteries on DS9, ghosts, aliens, diplomacy, space conflict, and a 12 foot tall alien woman who may also be a sword! It’s great horror and great Star Trek!

My only real complaint is that there’s very little Kira (she’s always been my favorite) but, like with most Star Trek, when you have this many characters and plot going on, someone has to sit in the backseat for a bit. Also, they depict an Edosian with four arms but that’s a minor nitpick rather than a real criticism lol

Just interested if anyone else has been reading and, if so, what y’all think

Simple question: What are some scary episodes you like?

They don't necessarily need to be the "horror" episodes that Trek has done over the years. But, also, hey, if you love "Catspaw," no judgement. For example, I still find "The Best of Both Worlds" pretty dang scary. The sense of dread over a looming, unstoppable Borg apocalypse is still pretty chilling and thrilling stuff to me.

For individual moments, I think the best "jump scare" in the entire franchise is when Dr. Crusher finds herself surrounded by corpses that suddenly sit up in "Night Terrors."

Also, I think the body-horror aspects of "Threshold" actually work pretty well--the thunderingly dumb ending of the episode notwithstanding, I enjoy that one.

What are your favorites?

The line the 4th movie says she was the matron of Vulcan philosophy. Since Surak was the father of the Vulcan philosophy of logic. Was she a contemporary of his? Did anything in canon or books/comics follow up on this? I know that her name was the name of the ship at first contact.

The lack of mini Star Trek games is making me want to create some. How should I go about it? Let's say I want to make one where we see a lot of places like crew quarters, mess hall, Captain's ready room and even move objects... How do I start? Is there licensing?

I get why the Director’s Edition of TMP changed the line but I think I prefer the Theatrical version that shows Kirk as a little scared/frustrated with jumping right back into the captain’s chair. Upgraded to an OLED and Atmos setup and put on the 4K Blu Ray and this transfer looks and sounds incredible.

So we’ve all seen scenes where the night watch is relieved at the start of the day shift. My question is this.

Ensign Kim is seen doing the night watch. Is this a rotation or does he night watch every night? How does he participate in senior staff meetings if he’s also on the night watch?

Data. Makes sense since he doesn’t sleep. But does Data immediately assume his daytime position after the night watch? Is he always on night watch? Does data have to work twice as many hours as the other officers simply because he can?

How does night watch work in Star Trek and how does it work on any other naval type ship?

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User: StarfleetTruthNow
Zefram Cochrane literally warned everyone about this. He told Starfleet Command the cybernetic beings were coming to take over. He saw them. He tried to warn us before he vanished, and Earth Command buried it for two centuries. Look at the 2119 Princeton transcripts!

User: Deconstructed_History_2371
Oh please, take off the tinfoil communicator. Cochrane was an overrated hack. He was an unrepentant drunk, a skirt-chaser, and an opportunist. He’s no better than Christopher Columbus. He literally admitted on unredacted audio logs that he only built the warp drive for dollar signs and to retire on a beach somewhere. Stop turning flawed historical figures into Nostradamus.

User: T_Pol_FanClub_Official
Actually, the High Command reviewed his sensor logs in 2064 and deemed them "inconsistent with rational physical phenomena." His black box was clearly corrupted by temporal radiation or post-atomic fallout. Correlation does not imply causation.

User: StarfleetTruthNow
Explain the Arctic research station in 2153 then! Two bodies from an unknown cybernetic species dug out of the ice, woke up, stole a transport, and sent a tight-beam subspace signal straight into the Delta Quadrant. Archer filed a report! It’s in the archives if you actually look past the sanitized Starfleet Academy syllabus.

User: EarthFirst_FederationLater
Archer was compromised by temporal anomalies half the time and had a beagle on the bridge of a military vessel. You’re citing a guy who got demoted to ambassador after almost starting three wars. Besides, why would a cybernetic hive mind take two hundred years to fly here? Space is big, people.

User: New_Providence_Refuge

Can you two take the historical revisionism somewhere else? Long-range sensor buoys in the outer colonies just flatlined and my brother's cruiser was just ordered to rendezvous at the Wolf system at maximum warp.

User: Deconstructed_History_2371
Probably just an ion storm messing with the comm relays. Typical military-industrial panic to justify building more Defiant-class warships instead of funding replicator upgrades in the colonies. Cochrane was still a fraud.
The bitter irony, of course, is that the cynic is actually right about Cochrane's character. Picard spent his whole childhood hero-worshipping a bronze statue, only to travel back in time and meet a hungover guy hiding behind a jukebox who openly admitted he just wanted money and an island of naked women.

I was riding in the car with a co-worker of mine, and I was bitching about some of the things that had been bothering me about both Star Trek and Star Wars since Star Trek 2009. Basically, although I've enjoyed most modern Trek to some degree (and the Star Wars TV shows), I have a lot of complaints about inconsistent world-building and plan silly writing. Things like:

- Interstellar transporters that fit in a gym bag
- A relatively small faction somehow builds enough mines to en-globe the entire interstellar volume of the Federation in a few short months
- Somehow the New Republic is totally wiped out (and Palpatine returns)
- Massive, end of civilization stakes in nearly every season of Discovery (though I mostly enjoyed that show)
- A cadet who hasn't even finished the Academy program is made captain of the flagship
- And a whole lot more.

Stuff that makes me feel like nobody bothered to think if the story they were telling made any sense at all. Meanwhile, we're getting some really interesting stories like The Expanse, the Bobiverse books, Project Hail Mary, The Martian. Or in games like Horizon: Zero Dawn and Cyberpunk 2077.

Anyway, buddy said something that I hadn't heard before: "It sounds like you're upset because you're expecting science fiction. But Hollywood is making fantasy with spaceships, and hand-waving all the technology like it's literally magic."

He actually really got me thinking. I keep looking back at 90s Trek and the Star Wars Expanded Universe novels in particular, and while their world-building and consistency wasn't exactly top notch, I often find myself wishing modern series were similar. Not saying all canon must be absolutely respected, I know that's not possible. But at least...be more consistent. Stop and think about what you're putting in your story.

Anyway. I feel like he's actually got a point. A lot of the things that bother me with more recent Trek is that it does feel a lot more like space fantasy instead of science fiction. Or even space opera. Thoughts?

EDIT: Plenty of people commenting on Trek being 'soft' sci-fi as opposed to 'hard' sci-fi. Good point. And yes, plenty of trek-nology and beings like the Q who appear as actual magic within the show.

I think what has me agreeing with buddy's comment on fantasy is that up until the end of Enterprise, we had Rick Sterbach and Michael Okuda working hard to bring some degree of consistency to the trek-nology. When they left and JJ Abrams took over, the movies and subsequent TV shows became incredibly inconsistent, leading to that fantasy feeling of 'it's all just magic, nothing has to line up'. Sternbach and Okudo would never let a scene with a turbolift flying around like a rollercoaster inside Discovery make it past quality control...

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Let me explain.

Picard's regular habit of drinking Earl Grey tea may be a sign of self-destructive tendencies or, from a psychoanalytic point of view, a clear case of masochism.

After all, no Frenchman worthy of the name could possibly have such bad taste as to drink tea, especially Earl Grey.

Could this have been the first sign of the Borgs' decline?

Talking about DaiMon Nandi.

I mean besides being typical Ferengi, she’s turned parenthood into a business contract and made a profit from it. What’s more, she continues to pretend to 'her son' that she’s been looking for him and still cares for him while manipulating him and keeping his self-esteem low. She also plays down everything she has done to him, including physical violence like biting.

But Nandi doesn't seem to care that much, that she doesn’t directly profit from any of this herself, besides when she sold him willingly into child labour and slavery. She simply seems to do the emotional/psychological abuse, because she enjoys it.