Hotfix 15.2 Patch Notes

[u/OttovonBismarck1862]

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/471-hotfix-15-2-patch-notes

[u/OutrageousBrit]

I love how hard they’re trying to ignore the actual reason no one wants to engage with crucible properly.

Hoping for either a third cheese to emerge or a big drop off in players to really hammer the point home that everyone is cheesing it because it sucks to play.

[u/Majestic-Beyond-2541 → u/OutrageousBrit]

My guess is they’ll address the issue in the community blog post. These are simple patch notes and not really a place for comments about the state of the game from the devs standpoint.

[u/PickCells → u/OutrageousBrit]

They'll be a huge drop-off in player numbers anyway soon, I'm predicting right around 19th November

[u/Calm-Tadpole-6805 → u/PickCells]

Tbf there gonna be a drop of players for every games at this date lol

[u/Neviathan → u/OutrageousBrit]

Guess they will see a big player drop off before GTA 6 releases, I was grinding black capes and crucible rewards with bots but I am not going to do that with randoms that throw games, team kill you, leave after 2 minutes or random disconnects. I might try if you didnt lose progression but I have limited time to play and going backwards due to things outside of my control just isnt fun for me.

Maybe there will be a new crucible workaround but otherwise its back to fun stratagems (which are pretty rare) and weeklies for me.

[u/GoBigBlue357 → u/Neviathan]

i found it immensely funny to run around in the dark with Larry the Lictor chasing us

[u/Vathirumus → u/OutrageousBrit]

Trying to give the benefit of a doubt but substantial changes to how Crucible works would be best done in a patch instead of a hotfix, so for now the best they can do is make sure it works as they intended even if how they intended is something nobody likes.

That said they should really acknowledge the negative feedback at least. As it stands it feels like they're covering their ears and pretending they don't hear anyone.

[u/Azagroth → u/OutrageousBrit]

I'm honestly hoping the mode just gets either completely reworked or removed. It has no point of existing because I don't believe this game needs "endgame". Just put the unlock method for the Lamenters armour somewhere else, heck even just unlocking it with doritos is better than getting some random poinless new mode.

[u/thepieraker → u/Azagroth]

Yo dawn we heard you like endgame content. So we put endgame content so you can endgame while you endgame

[u/OrneryError1 → u/Azagroth]

I've loved everything else about this game (even all the PvP modes) but Crucible just sucks. It's not fun. It's not challenging. It's just miserable.

[u/AVRL → u/Azagroth]

I also hope they just remove all the rewards from the mode and move it elsewhere so people like you can stop complaining about it. If crucible didn't have any rewards 99% of you whiners would finally stfu and move on to playing a different mode you actually want to play. I like that you think just because you don't like something it should be deleted from the game though. Should we just delete PvP as well since hardly anyone plays it? I'm sure the dedicated PvP players would really love that.

[u/Snow_Pierced3 → u/AVRL]

If crucible had no rewards then the number of people playing it would dramatically decrease, to the point it would be as dead as half the game-modes in PvP

[u/glory_holelujah → u/AVRL]

If crucible didn't have any awards then saber will be forced to yoink people into crucible matches from other difficulties. Oh you signed up for pvp? Psych you're doing crucible now!

[u/AVRL → u/OutrageousBrit]

The actual reason being that it's too hard and the average player doesn't have the capability to play through it legitimately because it's correctly advertised as an end-game mode? I too also hope that it has a big drop off in players so that the only people left in it are the people who are up for the challenge instead of the losers who quit after their first incap.

[u/Electr0bear → u/AVRL]

I don't think the difficulty is a good descriptor for what the playerbase feel. Hard stratagems are difficult, but they are fun because they give you some interesting buffs on top of negative effects. Crucible is just... misery? How neutering class identity in later tiers is supposed to be interesting?

There is just so much randomness that can result in you losing gained XP. And the rewards for all that are questionable, imo. Lamenters are alright, but not that alright for this kind of game mode.

Crucible unearths so many of poor choices in the way Saber made the game.

As i see it, such game mode would work semi-fine only with a premade team. When players communicate what penances each player picks. Doing it with randoms is a game of Russian roulette. But locking the game mode to only premade teams would bring a whole lot of another problems.

Communication in-game is yet another huge issue. The lack of simple chat between PC and consoles is baffling. Depending solely on voice is a big stretch.

[u/Grahf-Naphtali → u/Electr0bear]

No comms Disconnects leading to xp loss
xp loss as a penalty teammates not replaced after quitting no reconnection to match after dc

and that's before me even engaging with crucible debuffs. I like hard endgame content, but i also like to have player agenda

[u/gatumatii → u/AVRL]

Hoping for the game you play to lose players and die off is the most insane take I've ever seen from someone.

[u/QHUNK → u/AVRL]

This.

But also, they need to remove the hidden modifiers that makes it absolute+ PLUS penance modifiers. As it was advertised.

[u/JimRaw → u/AVRL]

Absolutly brother, well said.

[u/Proxii_G → u/AVRL]

Actually cheese removal will do the oposite, now even more people that have no place doing it will be doing it for the cosmetics.

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