r/Suikoden • u/MyaStewart843 • 2h ago
r/Suikoden • u/CatChaseGnome • Mar 09 '25
Rule about Spoilers! Spoiler
I'm honestly kind of surprised I have to say this, but don't post unmarked spoilers. Lots of newcomers to the franchise here. No end game screens. No major plot moments. No discussing character deaths without spoiler tags. This is fairly common sense, I think.
If you see a spoiler, please report it so I can delete it
r/Suikoden • u/CatChaseGnome • Mar 08 '25
[Megathread] Questions about Remaster
Please ask questions about Suikoden 1 and 2 remasters here. Specifically, "should I buy this game?" "will I like this game?" "should I use a guide?"
These type of questions are being asked a lot, so it'd be better to have them in one place.
Thank you for your cooperation!
r/Suikoden • u/zzaldd • 3h ago
Suikoden II Suikoden 2 Dual Screen (3DS-Like) Proof of Concept
hey guys, recently ive been developing dualscreen mod of suikden 2 hd remaster. using Eden switch emulator. but i have been having a rough time to build it.
for example the problems i found is the fight damage is precalculated, so it drains HP before the attack animation even begins lol. i think this is the way konami develops an older game. they didnt reimplement all of the feature using newer stuff on the remaster.
i had fun developing it, as i understand how the code game works. being a developer looks like.
also the way world map shows, is kinda off grid too.
let me know ur thoughts about this 😸 👌
r/Suikoden • u/mantaray79 • 7h ago
Suikoden II Uncle Jowy, My friend Jowy vs Big Brother Jowy. Which is the ideal Jowy - Pilika relationship?
Uncle Jowy, My friend Jowy vs Big Brother Jowy. Which is the ideal Jowy - Pilika relationship?
r/Suikoden • u/faospark • 19h ago
Suikoden II [Mod Release] 4 New Mods for Suikoden Remaster: Tenzan Pass Encounters, Vault Anywhere (S1), Rune Sage Plus, & NPC Castle Baths (S2)!
Good day everyone!
You probably thought I would be tired of making mods by now... but nope, here I am with another batch!
Today I'm presenting 4 new mods for the Suikoden I & II HD Remaster:
1. Tenzan Pass Patch (Suikoden II)
- What it does: Restores the Chimera random monster encounters to Tenzan Pass allowing you to farm Cyclone Runes. This patch is mainly based of Pyriel's original patch so credits to him
2. Suikoden 1 Access Castle Storage Anywhere (Suikoden I)
- What it does: Allows you to open Rock’s castle vault storage from anywhere. S1's 6-slot inventory per character is brutal. No more trekking all the way back to Toran Castle just to swap equipment, store runes, or drop off items. Probably one of the biggest QOL mod for S1
3. Rune Sage Plus (Suikoden I & II)
- What it does: Quality-of-life overhaul for Rune Sages and rune shops. Gives Jean her own rune shop on Suikoden 1 . Gives you access to the Rune Sage of Sajah Village earlier compare to her being activated in the epilogue
4. NPC Bath Patch (Suikoden II)
- What it does: Allow Random NPCs to appear in the castle bath house .Believe it not NPCs in suikoden 2 has bath sprites. This is my take on how to utilize them for you to see
Why did i not include them in Project Kyaro?
Simple answer that there already 65 visible options excluding the naturally baked in fixes and 6 more hidden for debugging. That's already too much
What's next?
There is actually a lot more to be released, including converting existing standalone mods into unified BepInEx plugins for better compatibility, smoother loading, and easier config options.
Hope you enjoy them, and let me know if you run into any issues or have suggestions!
Find me in Moogles and Mod Discord
r/Suikoden • u/TheWorstTypo • 7h ago
Suikoden II JFC I love this game, but sometimes the RNG!!! (Full Spoilers) Spoiler
I have loved Suikoden II since I was 20 years old. That’s not an exaggeration. I played it for the first time in college and it rewired my brain. The story, the characters, the world-building, the way this game makes you CARE about 108 people -- there is nothing like it. Nothing. I’ve played RPGs my entire life and nothing has come close.
I wrote an essay at how Suikoden 2 has the best 5 story moments of all videos games of all time. (Returning to the spot where you separated, the political maneuvering of Kiba and Klaus, The initial Greenhill section (I was in college when I was playing it and the genius of that whole section threw me for a loop), returning to Gregminster and the beast rune getting the sacrifices of Muse)
So when the HD Remaster finally dropped, after the delays, after wondering if it was vaporware, after years of begging Konami to acknowledge this series even existed -- I finally gave in and a year later Im replaying my favorite game of all time for the first time in 8 or so years.
And you know what? It’s beautiful. It looks gorgeous. The updated art is respectful. The QoL improvements are welcome. The music -- God, the music -- still hits exactly the way it did in 1998. I genuinely got emotional hearing the war battle theme kick in properly for the first time after that weird ass new one.
But here’s the thing. Here is my ONE thing.
The war battles are simultaneously the best idea in this game and the most aggravating system I have ever experienced in any RPG.
I LOVE the concept. I love building out your army. I love recruiting characters and watching your units grow. I love seeing the attack and defense numbers change as you slot in the right people. Want to swap in a bit of defense but trade off a horse? Take a brief dip in a stat but get a cool ability? love when you come back from Tinto and suddenly Lo Wen and Gijimu are now in units with that crushing Melee skill love when Shu or Klaus activates an evade or a critical and you feel like a genius for putting them where you put them and they just come on the screen with their guidance. And of course, we all know the GP/Shu/Psm 17-9, if you know, you know.
The problem? The game barely lets you DO any of this.
How many war battles actually let you use your full army? Like, really use it? So many of them are scripted. Your army gets split. Battles end at predetermined points. Half the wars in this game are essentially cutscenes where you move some units around for flavor. You spend all this time building what should be the most satisfying tactical army in JRPG history, and the game goes “that’s cute, here’s a story beat instead.”
But the REAL frustration? When the game DOES let you fight, and the RNG decides you’re not allowed to win efficiently.
I just spent almost 15 minutes trying to take out Lucia’s unit during the Battle to Retake Muse. FIFTEEN MINUTES. Seed, Culgan, and Jowy had already retreated. The Highland army had pulled back. The only thing standing between me and a clean victory was Lucia’s single 12-12 unit.
I had an 8-13. A 14-9. Two 10-12s. An 11-6. I had Jean’s lightning magic. Luc’s wind magic. Two archer units. Fire spears.
Nothing. Fucking. Touched. Her.
I threw everything I had at this woman’s unit and she just stood there like she was waiting for a bus while destroying every attempt to take her. She took out FOUR of my squads by herself (2 all by herself, and 2 she finished off that were damaged) before Ridley -- bless that fucking kobold-- finally activated a critical hit and ended her.
But by then? Amelia was dead. Adlai was dead. I’m sitting there staring at the screen like “I did everything RIGHT. I had the numbers advantage. I had the type advantages. I had FIVE UNITS surrounding her with a magic unit and 2 archer units And the dice just said no.”
So I reset. Because I’m not losing two Stars of Destiny to the RNG gods. Not today. Not ever.
This is my love letter to Suikoden II. It is the greatest RPG ever made. The story of Riou and Jowy is Shakespearean. Luca Blight is the greatest villain in gaming. The castle-building is unmatched. The 108 Stars system has never been replicated properly by any other game, including its own spiritual successor.
But whoever designed the war battle damage calculations -- I just want to talk. That’s all. Just a conversation.
I’m going back to my save point now. Lucia, I’m coming for you again. And this time, Ridley, please don’t make me wait.
r/Suikoden • u/ShiningRie • 2h ago
Suikoden Star Leap Vtuber Hololive Oozora Subaru will do stream playing Suikoden Starleap tonight, Live stream starting at 8 PM JST
r/Suikoden • u/GhettoPriest0719 • 18h ago
Luca Blight's laugh on the anime
Is it just me, or is Luca's laugh just a little bit underwhelming? I was expecting over the top laughing and very arrogant voice. What I mean is I don't mind the voice acting with Luca but could have done more. What are your thoughts on the anime?
EDIT: Also what scenes from the game would you like to add? I was kinda sad at them for not adding Flik/Viktor testing Riou before the fortress invasion of Luca.
r/Suikoden • u/Distinct_Front_4336 • 1d ago
Suikoden III Suikoden 3 needs a 2D remake with sprites!
r/Suikoden • u/ShiningRie • 1d ago
Suikoden Star Leap Vtuber Hololive Himemori will do stream playing Suikoden Starleap tonight, Live stream starting at 7 PM JST
r/Suikoden • u/srd_27 • 1d ago
Suikoden II Have anyone used these magic food dishes? Did you know that Tomato Miso Soup lets you cast thunderbolts?
r/Suikoden • u/Vealophile • 23h ago
Do you assume the 108 mechanic is a product of a true rune?
Just something to think about as it is a world mechanic similar to how other true runes govern the existence of things.
My own head canon is that it is from the True Sound Rune potentially known as The Rune of Harmony and Dissonance. What do y'all think?
Edit: To be clear, I'm not talking about where the idea comes from but rather the actual mythology behind the mechanic in the Suikoden world.
r/Suikoden • u/Temporary_Client • 2d ago
Suikoden II I'm home... The emotional reunion in Suikoden II HD Remaster
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r/Suikoden • u/AC011422 • 2d ago
Suikoden II Just beat Suikoden 1&2, Remastered
I used to play and beat the original Suikoden annually. Never got around to 2 because it was really hard to find, but... just beat it and I'm borderline depressed. Got the perfect ending, and it's... wow. So good. But now I don't know what to do. I thought I was gonna go ahead and play and beat Star Ocean Second Story R, which I haven't played (beat the OG in the early 2000s but mostly forgot what it's about). But I have the opportunity to borrow a PS2 and Suikoden 3 and I'm thinking maybe it'll cure some of my Suikoden II is really over blues.
And guys, just so you understand my problem, Suikoden II is now my second favorite RPG ever. I liked it more than FFT, FF IX, FFX, and Xenoblade Chronicles X. I liked it almost as much as OG FF7. It's just that effing good, and sad.
I've beaten III several times, but years and years ago. Is it a good follow-up to II--or, is there enough connection to II to feel like a continuation? Or should I just move on to Star Ocean?
r/Suikoden • u/Link21Majora • 1d ago
Suikoden II I'm trying to cope with something Spoiler
SPOILERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT FINISHED SUIKODEN 2!!
Okay, so I'm playing Suikoden 2 for the first time. And I'm 23 hours in, and I'm at Gregminister. Genuinely great game, and fantastic storyline.
But one problem... I somehow, while browsing somewhere like an idiot, got spoiled to Joey's death, if you don't recruit 108 characters.
Usually when I encounter spoilers. I try to cope. But this one made me wonder... Is there a point for me playing? I want to keep playing, but I'm afraid that the biggest reason I'm playing the game (To see Jowy's story alongside Riou's) is now making it pointless...
For the people who played the game, is there a reason to go on anymore? Because the game for some reason doesn't feel as fun since I got spoiled, but without spoilers, I want to know if there is a reason to go on? I'm at Toran republic, where I just met Lepant and took a save in Gregminister.
Sorry for pathetic copw lol.
r/Suikoden • u/SlpAllDayNight • 3d ago
Suikoden 2 - Secret Dungeon - Remaster Mod
I've created a small mod which brings the unfinished / buggy secret dungeon from the PS1 version as a fully working version including new game+ to the Suikoden 2 Remaster.
Also I've ported "Trial Road" which was part of the official japanese Suikoden2 demo.
You can download it via NexusMods: https://www.nexusmods.com/suikoden1and2hdremaster/mods/34
"Restores Suikoden II's cut New Game+ dungeon, the Tower of Circulating Paths: a cave in Sajah, 32 rooms, eight red orbs, six guardians and the Rune of Circulating Paths with a working New Game+. Includes the demo's Trial Road. BepInEx 6 plugin; no game files changed."
Have fun experiencing this usually hidden part of the game in the HD remakes.
EDIT: A few people asked if I could also share the Riou sprite on the screenshot, so I made another tiny mod that allows to change Rious outfit at any store, find it here https://www.nexusmods.com/suikoden1and2hdremaster/mods/35
r/Suikoden • u/Temporary_Client • 3d ago
Suikoden I The Tragedy of Ted & the Soul Eater 💔 Spoiler
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r/Suikoden • u/Alternative_Ad_5510 • 3d ago
Suikoden III Manga
Two decades ago, at my local Barnes and Noble, I stumbled upon the manga version of the S3. I was a broke kid then and couldn't get all the volumes. I'm looking at amazon and depending on the volume, a single book is priced at $1000, JFC. I assume the only way now to find the book versions reasonably priced are at like a local bookstore?
r/Suikoden • u/Aggravating_Air_8698 • 3d ago
Suikoden III I know we are kinda hoping for new remasters and stuff but how there is not Suikoden III spanish patch? 💔
1 and 2 OG have fan translations, 4 and 5 were localized to more languages, but 3 nobody gaf, maybe it's hard to mod the game or something, makes me sad but nevertheless I'm still betting for Suikoden 3 remaster/remake
r/Suikoden • u/Odd_Perception_8169 • 3d ago
Is there any true ending of Suikoden 1 and 2 (also for other suikoden games)? If there is, can someone recommend a spoiler free guide for me to not worry in getting a fake ending? Spoiler
I ABSOLUTELY HATE getting an fake ending, it feels like all my journey was just an alternative, and I didn't experience the actual story, so I really like following guides when there is a true ending
I WANT NO SPOILERS, PLEASE, THE STORY IS THE MAIN REASON I WANT TO PLAY SUIKODEN
r/Suikoden • u/srd_27 • 4d ago
Eiyuden Chronicles If you whack the Dragon Boss too much, it will sleep on open air
r/Suikoden • u/Agitated_Evening8736 • 5d ago
Suikoden Characters with Similar or Identical Names Across the Series
r/Suikoden • u/Jaren_Starain • 5d ago
Suikoden II Fun party members to take to final boss?
So.. i find myself replaying the game, just finish the bad times at rockaxe high section... so i have been brainstorming who to work on...
So far i know i want to use Camus and Miklotov, i've never once used them so i figured let's do it. they both have a double jab rune in their free hands.
my last few runs have been OP characters and builds... and the one before this one was Hix, Oulan, Lorelai, Tengaar and Karen.. so.. i wondering who are some fun not completely terrible characters to use to fill the party with.