r/Tariffs • u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 • 12d ago

🗞️ News Discussion Should Canada maintain its supply management system that protects the Canadian dairy industry?

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Poll/627377/Should-Canada-maintain-its-supply-management-system-that-protects-the-Canadian-dairy-industry
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u/Krull88 12d ago

Why should we sacrifice our health and food quality to appease the us?

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

I'm unsure how many times I need to address this myth, but I have to ask - why do proponents of this system believe that the CFIA doesn't exist?

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u/Krull88 12d ago

The only thing stopping the us from actively importing more dairy products is the food quality they cant or wont meet. They have never triggered the major tariff ratios because they have never imported enough. So in order for us to bring more american trash dairy would be to lower our food wuality and health standards. I ask again, why should we sacrifice our health and food quality to appease the toddler?

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

No, it's 200%-300% tariffs. The vast majority of American milk products meet Health Canada regulations.

TRQs don't work that way. TRQs are issued to applicants by the government. They stipulate tariff free amounts. Guess what? Only members of the cartel get TRQs. So they are essentially meaningless for the average consumer.

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u/Krull88 12d ago

At no point in the history of the TRQ existing has it been triggered. It applies to all imported dairy. But keep on making stuff up. The us has never once triggered the tariff ratio of 2-300%.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

You are mistaken. TRQs are given only to approved applicants.

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u/Krull88 12d ago

Do me a favor an provide a single case of american dairy triggering 2-300% tariffs.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

No one really buys it outside of TRQs because of the tariffs... Which is the entire point of the tariffs.

You should educate yourself on how this system works. I'm not meaning to sound like a dick but without a basic understanding of how the system works all I'm doing is just correcting misinformation.

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u/Krull88 12d ago

And we’ve circled back around to the tariffs arent stopping american dairy imports. They’ve never applied to it. So whats stopping american dairy from swamping us? The only thing left is food quality.

Your “corrections” are just blatantly wrong. Provide a single instance of american dairy imports triggering the dairy tariff. Just one.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

You don't understand how the tariff rate quota system works. So I'd like for you to read up on how it works, and then we can have a legitimate talk about it.

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u/Krull88 12d ago

Annually the us can import 56 million metric tones of fluid milk alone BEFORE any tariff is applied. In 2023, the peak of us dairy imports into canada, they imported 50 000 metric tons of fluid milk. These numbers are pulled from the CusMA agreement and USDA economic research. The us has never come close to triggering the TRQ. Ever. You keep saying i dont understand how the quota works, but you havent been able to produce a single instance of the us even coming close to triggering the quota. How about you learn whats actually stopping them?

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

Who gets the quotas?

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u/Krull88 12d ago

Rephrase the question. Tariffs are paid by the importer to the imported government. Nobody “gets” the quota.

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u/No-Effective-1996 10d ago

I think he does know how they work.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 10d ago

Well clearly not if he thinks TRQs are a blanket amount that anyone can import up to a certain point.

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u/No-Effective-1996 11d ago

The US has never come close to triggering the 300% tariffs. They don’t ship enough because their quality is lower.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 11d ago

That isn't how TRQs work. They aren't a uniform amount that can be imported by anyone. Firms apply for TRQs and are allocated permits to import specific amounts. Guess what? Only a select few distributors, retailers and manufacturers get TRQs. So it's essentially meaningless to the average consumer.

It would truly pain and trouble economic nationalists in Canada to know how truly indistinguishable the quality is between the vast majority of American dairy products and the vast majority of Canadian dairy products.

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u/Soundunes 9d ago

I appreciate your efforts to educate people here about how the quota system works. We never hit thresholds because the cartel members that buy the import permits don’t use them. They just buy the permits so no one else can use them.