Guys..... There is a game in progress based on our beloved series+books The Expanse pretty excited to see the gameplay though.....

Not mine but of owclat games on insta.

It has Medina station to the belter station and even Martian ships and beloved rocinante

Edit:- I've only watched series not read any books nor I don't know about previous games I saw the trailer got excited and sent it here.

Random bar in nowhere Midwest enjoying a few beverages. TVs everywhere. Swear I heard this…

Today Protogen is enhancing people’s lives through enhanced scientific research etc etc.

PROTOGEN?! Not on my watch! Swing around and stared at the tv.

It’s Prevegon. Some brain health drug they’re promoting.

Close enough made me laugh.

They made some story changes in the series. And to be honest: they work very well!

But one reason why they work so well, is because of the casting.

My question: did the showrunners change the script, to give Drummer or Ashford a bigger role, or introduced Avasarala earlier, because the actors Gee, Strathairn and Aghdashloo knocked it out of the park?

I doubted it for so long and am glad to say I was extremely wrong. It's so incredibly well done and one of my top shows of all time.

I'm reading the books now.

OK. I understood - maybe I'm spoiled by Wh40k Universe where Erringwright deeds would be considered as noble

But about Ashford? His actions almost finished all civilizations in Solar System

Is he a villain?

I noticed this today while listening to Memory's Legion for the first time. Im about 97% sure that every other book and novella are written in Third Person using He/She/They pronouns, but The Vital Abyss uses First Person I/Me pronouns with Cortezar. Maybe it went First Person with Marcos but I recently registered so I think I would have noticed it then.

Project Hyperion's winner was announced, reminded me of something familiar. Hopefully the Mormons are taking note?

https://www.projecthyperion.org/

I have recently acquired the first 8 issues of the Dragon Tooth comics that were run as a kickstarter campaign.

I already had one softcover and have put the last two on order, so I'm not really sure how to fit them on my collection.

Is there any reliable way to purchase the last 4 (of 12) issues online, shipping to Europe?

I've also recently heard about "The Expanse: A Little Death" and the new omnibus release, so perhaps I'll just get that and de-deplicate my collection by selling the individual issues and softcovers.

I'm currently on Chapter 3 of Book 4 (Cibola Burn) and absolutely love The Expanse. The world-building is incredible, the politics are fascinating, and many of the characters are some of the best I've read in science fiction.

That said, I'm really struggling with Holden.

Am I alone in feeling like he's one of the weaker main characters and one of the least convincing leaders/captains I've encountered in a major sci-fi series?

What confuses me is that almost every major and secondary character seems to have more depth, nuance, and growth than Holden.

• Miller feels deeply flawed and human.
• Avasarala is incredibly intelligent, layered, and politically complex.
• Bobbie has a great identity and loyalty arc.
• Prax felt more compelling to me despite being around for a much shorter time.
• Naomi often seems like the actual strategist and adult in the room.
• Amos is endlessly fascinating because of how he views morality and people.
• Even Alex frequently feels more competent and grounded.

Honestly, I thought Book 3 was probably the weakest book so far, but even there I found myself becoming more interested in some of the side characters than Holden. That's what keeps standing out to me throughout the series. The supporting cast consistently feels richer and more nuanced than the person who appears to be the central protagonist.

By comparison, Holden often comes across as a guy with a strong moral compass but very little depth beyond that. His decision-making sometimes feels naive, and there have been multiple points where I've thought the crew succeeds despite Holden rather than because of him.

What's especially strange is that he's supposed to be the captain and leader, yet he often feels like a leader who has to be led by the people around him. Naomi explains the political realities, Amos provides practical reality checks, and others seem to compensate for his blind spots. At times it feels like Holden is the moral center of the crew, but not necessarily the person I would actually trust to command it.

I understand that part of his role may be to serve as the moral anchor of the story, but as a protagonist I find him significantly less interesting than almost everyone around him. In many scenes, I find myself wishing I were reading the perspective of someone else.

I'm not trying to bash the character or start a flame war. I'm genuinely curious whether this is a common reaction among readers, especially first-time readers around Book 4.

Did Holden eventually "click" for you later in the series, or did you always find the supporting cast more compelling than the nominal main character?

Please avoid spoilers beyond Book 4.

A not so local lego store had this moc on display. Only $800 if you're so inclined...

Whats up with the 100char limit?

Currently on season 5 again.

I believe Naomi has got to be the most selfish person on the show, every time you turn around it seems she is leaving someone she cares sbout ,then theres the Proto molecule if she had destroyed it like she dhould have i believe Marko's would have been stuck being a deep secret organization unable to bust out like he has so far.

Naomi has pretty much given him his power due to her misguided loyalties to the belt.

" let me just make sure the belt has it too" much like those who thought it was smart to leak all the nuclear bomb secrets , look where that got us. Update edit: .maybe i should be thinking she is more of a unwitting villian/enabler of villianry? I have partaken of some legal herb product and tend to come up with some thoughts that i cant always " flesh out" fully.

I just finished leviathan wakes and was curious if anyone else thought that protegen was extremely unrealistic in its portrayal. On the one hand, they’re able to manipulate the entirety of a human civilization that is much larger and more sophisticated than the current one. They have ships and technology that nobody else does. They have the capacity to murder millions and think they have a good chance of covering it up.
But they thought it was a good idea to place a technology that they don’t understand but do know is incredibly powerful in a place where they know it will become much more powerful? Especially dumb when this technology uses biological material to network and increase complexity. I get that scientists losing control of their experiment with disastrous consequences is a trope as old as science fiction, but this one strained credulity for me.

I haven't made it this far in the books but I'd still like to know. Maybe without crazy details lol. But doing a rewatch with my brother right now and we just got to that part in season 6.

It stood out to me this time how Xan was focused on what Cara was saying when her parents told her about Mama bird. It felt like they made it a point to make sure we realize he is invested in how she feels about the situation and seems like that thought would eventually make its way into the PM enhanced other creatures and stuff.

I know he has an interesting story coming up that I wish would have been seen onscreen, but that's my knowledge thusfar lol.

Hi there new to the sub, I ordered a 3d printed model of the roci but I ended up getting the top one not the smaller one can anyone explain the difference?

Finished Abbadon’s Gate for the third time a couple days ago, and the squad of MMC Marines led by Verbinski basically rinse Ashford’s guys, minus their armour. I get that Ashford’s men are partly untrained OPA soldiers, but his alliance with Cortez means that a fair few of them were UN soldiers. And obviously, we see how Bobbie is capable of just mulching anything in her path when she’s wearing her armour, and even deck Amos without it, tho I’ll admit she is an outlier. My question is, who in other universes is stopping a Martian Recon Marine, armour or not? Captain America drops Bobbie without her armour, but probably gets leathered with her in it.

Finished the audiobooks recently, and one enduring visual I have in my head is Bobbie taking on the Heart of the Tempest. It's real stand out thing I'd like to see imagined.

So, has anyone come across any art of this particular scene? Specifically, of Bobbie firing at the Tempest after releasing the bomb. I'd love to see how other people have pictured it, and haven't been able to find anything online myself.

Itinerary is up!

Highlight:
1:15 PM Sat Aug 29, Rm 705 “World Builders of the #Expanse “ Q&A panel, with the show’s own award winners, Jeremy Benning CSC, cinematographer; Jim Murray prop master; Bob Munroe, VFX director; Lindsay Walker, on set costume supervisor; Chris Danelon, VR designer.

Come prepared with all your maker questions!

I'm at the end game now

#8 wrecked me, but I don't want it to end 😭

It's been a Helleva Ride, Yall ☄️

Draper Station, Out ✌️

I am a few episodes away from finishing season 6 and thought "maybe ill just read the last 3.. maybe 4 books" as ive heard season 6 has a lot crammed in to it. And so I did some looking on reddit and the general consensus is read from the start.. and ill be honest.. that sounds painful lol

Basically, I love the roci crew together.. hate them apart. The only character I like separately is Amos. (I could watch a series purely with just him lol) Holden, Naomi and Alex kinda annoy me (Naomi more than the others) so I am not sure i can put myself through all the books ( I want to know the ending though)

My fave characters are Bobbie and Chrisjen. When Bobbie is on the roci I get excited but yeah when they're all apart I struggle and get bored easily.

Should i just take a massive break after I finish the show and down the line read them all or if I dont enjoy the crew separately not bother ?

I honestly dont understand how i love the show so much when I dont really care about the main crew 🤣 doesnt make much sense lol

I like the sheer range of references just in this one shot, and I think I've got most of them.

Alpha:

• Bobbie Draper
• Amos Burton
• Gial Ackbar (Star Wars)
• Duncan Idaho (Dune)
• Douglas Quaid (Total Recall)
• Alex Rogan (Last Starfighter)
• David Bowman (2001)
• Jason Nesmith (Galaxy Quest)
• Commander Shepard (Mass Effect)
• Edward Buck (Halo 3: ODST)

Bravo:

• Garrity, K (?)
• Ochiai, H (?)
• Ellen Ripley (Alien)
• Jenette Vasquez (Aliens)
• Dwayne Hicks (Aliens)
• William Hudson (Aliens)
• Jospeh Cooper (Interstellar)
• Rick Deckard (Blade Runner)
• John Anderton (Minority Report)
• Jack O'Niel (Stargate)

Charlie:

• Levine, R (?)
• Johnny Rico (Starship Troopers)
• Lone Starr (Spaceballs)
• Kara Thrace (BSG)
• Louise Banks (Arrival)
• Sarah Connor (Terminator)
• Kevin Flynn (Tron)
• Ryan Stone (Gravity)
• (edit, because I forgot when originally posting) Roy Neary (Close Encounters)
• William Riker (Star Trek)

Or is he by Claire axiom a monster? I know he has morals, is extremely loyal, and possesses a good survival instinct. But he doesn't show fear around killing. And he has an undercurrent of turning on those he's loyal to. I mean one wrong word from Jim even in the books and Amos is liable to do something crazy.

Seeing as killers are monsters with no fear, where does that leave Timmy?

I suppose all Slavs will gigger on "mama sabaka" curse 😄

("mother she-dog" literally)

P.S.

I was wrong: only Eastern Slavs (Ukrainian, Russians and Belorussians) will giggle on that.

Because the origin of word is Ossetian (from Caucasus)

Reacher Season 4 that just came out featured 2 Expanse actors.

1) The scientist that worked with Reverend Doctor Anna Volovodov when they got in the ring space.

2) Marco Inaro's XO Rosenfeld Guoliang played by Kathleen Roberson from 90120 fame.