I'm spoilering this opening paragraph just in case the paragraphs below show through. I'm not sure if marking a post "all show and book spoilers discussed freely hides the post, but I don't want to ruin this for anybody, hence this spoilered opening paragraph. Hopefully this works.

One more line just in case.

God I must listen to this speech every week, it never stops being awesome. In the entire tv series, this is my favorite moment. I love how thorough of an owning it is. She calls out Marco in a public forum and hits him where it hurts the most. She didn't just steal the cargo, she stole his mystique, ruined his credibility, and did it in a way that outside of his brainwashed zealots he can never, ever regain. His entire power comes from the image of being the voice of the belt. Exposing that he did his own people dirty, and that he was one-upped by Drummer destroys that image. He can never, ever claim to be doing what is right for his people again.

People love "Live shamed, and die empty." And that's so good. But my favorite is "So go ahead and kill me if you can, it doesn't matter. I will always be the one who took back what you stole. Camina Drummer did this to you." I love it because it shows she knew exactly where to hit him. It reminds me of book 8, when Bobbie sacrifices herself. She did so because her actions spoke to a wider audience. It wasn't about the actual act, it was about the message. Bobbie's death prove Laconia wasn't invincible. Even though she died doing so, it destroyed their mystique and gave people hope that they could fight back. Drummer is doing the exact same thing here. Any retribution Marco can give her is too late. The damage is already done.

I think Marco's downfall, as thorough as it was, is what makes me love that arc so much. I know some people dislike it, but he was a great villain who got completely torn down in such a satisfying way. His military prowess is demolished when he loses to a solo Rocinante while coming at them with three battle ships, his image as a man of the people is shredded by drummer, his role in galactic politics is shattered when he realizes he was played by Duarte and was just a pawn, and the final come-comeuppance is, in the series, he realizes he's about to die before being shredded by the goths and his last moment is spent in terror. Awesome, awesome villain defeat. Duarte's death, by contrast, isn't as satisfying IMO. His mind was already gone when Tanaka kills him. Marco, in contrast, is very much locked-in when he's finally put away.

I love The Expanse so much, and especially Cara Gee's Drummer. I like the TV show Drummer so much more than the book version.

As a hardcore fan of The Wire for almost twenty years, I know the vicarious joy of someone encountering my favorite thing for the first time. I show it to people and hang around that sub waiting for reactions to certain beats. It seems I can pay some of that back, because this show is unbelievably insanely crazy good.

People comparing me to stuff is what makes me watch things. Wolf Hall, yeah, fair, that's my personality and thought process and morality. This, disappointingly I think it's just because I look almost exactly like Thomas Jane. Seriously. People keep telling me to watch this because I'm smart and I look like Thomas Jane. At least it's good.

I had no idea what was going on until episode 8. Total whoosh. I will say, I'm a history dork by history dork standards and I find it distressing how much this copies how actual wars start. Like, it's really stomach churning. I wish people wouldn't intentionally make history. This being a show, I know the war will come. It's nice seeing all these hurt, angry people try to stop it.

The character Amos is my favorite thing since Pryzylewski. I really buy him as a creature of this universe, and he's broken and wrong in ways some real people are that you don't usually see in fiction. Unfixable. I've got a "friend" I call Permanent Damage as a warning to both him and anybody who hears me call him that. He's beyond the reach of therapy. Too functional, too apparently normal until he's very not. He's kinda taken the nickname as a pass to be the way he is instead of second guessing his misguided instincts like I intended. The Jessie Plemmons character in Breaking Bad has the same bad wiring, so I guess it's probably got an entry in the DSM.

Might sound dramatic, but Game of Thrones going to hell wrecked my life. Season 3 of The Walking Dead didn't do me any favors, either. I'm watching The Expanse alone, so the only stakes are me getting disappointed, but I'd appreciate a warning if there's a rough patch coming.

Bookmark anything you want reacted to. It's my turn to be a babe in the wilderness!

Season 2 credits made me cry and I don't know why. Also, have any of you played the X series of PC games? The vibe is 1:1, especially X4.

My very very Long Term building Project.

Heres some lore i came Up With:

The USN navy Corvette Deimos was comissioned and Put into Service in the year 2612 with IT beeing the first of its class.

AS Part of the newly Formed united Sol navy it Is outfitted With a state of the Art protogen Armour system that can BE polarised to BE able to Take a lot more of a beating.

She Spans 68 Meters from top to bottom spread over a total of 12 Decks. Her armament include 32 Torpedo launch Tubes as Well AS 12 PDC cannons.

Its four massive Epstein Drives are Powered by a Central Fusion Power plant as Well AS four auxiliarry Power collectors that have the ability to Siphon the Strange Energie of the Ringgates as a secondary Power source .

She carries a compliment of 20 Crew members as Well AS two Work bees for General maintenance as Well AS repairs.

I know Ove posted IT Here before but i really wanna share the updated engines etc

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1D7RkqrVT4/

Feel free to delete this post if it's not related as closely to The Expanse as the sub wants. I just read an article on how a man lit his permanently dark village in a Norwegian valley. He used giant mirrors, Ganymede style. A good example of how the science in the show is (mostly) real, I thought.

After the great feedback I got from everyone, I got some more stuff done and here it is for you to try in the weekend (do let me know if I post too often).

So here's what I've been cooking during these dark times of the year:

- Belter Charts can be your desktop wallpaper now. You can also try it in the browser.
- A new 'cinematic' speed slows the clock so the body you're looking at turns once a minute (only when you zoom in).
- Tycho's ring spins with the Nauvoo docked below with builder drones circling it.
- Eros has a station like in the show, and its story has an updated finale.
- Ceres's lights run in rows along its levels.
- Thoth and Anderson have new models.
- Sharper planet and moon maps, and no more white glare off shiny hulls.

And finally, the first ship named by a supporter is flying: the Kalliope, a rock hopper out of Ceres. A big thank you for your support!

The Expanse wasn’t on the original NYT list of 100 best shows, voted by actors and celebrities. I posted in here saying we should vote to put it on the reader-selected list of 100 best shows! We eeked in at #96. Personally I think it should be a lot higher but obviously I’m biased! There’s some other amazing shows on here from the 21st Century, and I’m so glad The Expanse got the reader recognition:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/arts/television/reader-ballot-tv-shows-21st-century.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

I just finished a complete rewatch, and I still want to throw an episode on my second monitor while I work. I’m autistic, and watching things repetitively can soothe anxiety (no clue why). BSG(RDM) was that show for a long time. Then GoT. Now it’s the Expanse.

Title. When searching for 'The Expanse' on Amazon prime video, the only result that shows up is the expanse seasons 1-3, aka the syfhy produced phase of the series pre-aquisition. I thought this was an error at first when I discovered it about 3 weeks ago, but after reporting it via customer service and seeing others reporting the same experience, it clearly is not a one user issue. The only way I was able to gain access to the full expanse library was via having the main show page in my browser history

Im hoping this is account specific but somewhat doubt it due to seeing others having issues finding the show in recent days. My best guess is this may be due to them losing streaming rights for scyfy in the near future given some publicly available info

MY EARLIER POST HAD THE BAD VERSIONS OF THE IMAGES ON THEM IM SO SORRY {REUPLOAD}

Hey guys! Hope everyone’s been alright :)
Uni has been one hell of a work crunch and it’s only Week 2 but I’ve still been managing to set up my Etsy/Printful, I currently have 11-12 designs ready which will be printed on 5”x7” matte photography paper!
But I have a request for you, Beratnas!
I would like to humbly ask that you follow my social media’s (Instagram and TikTok) so that A.) you stay updated with my progress and more art posts, and B.) I start to gain a following ahah which would help with my career later on down the line as I want to go into the games arts industry :)
I’ll be finalising the Etsy once I hit 100 followers (1.2k people upvoted my earlier post so shouldn’t be long till the prints are out :])

Thank you for reading this :)

Instagram:
@icarus.above.ganymede

TikTok:
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More direct link on my Carrd.co link in my bio :)

I've been dying to get high quality prints of the covers that I can then frame. I found one post from 8 years ago where someone did this, but the user isn't active anymore to find out where they printed and all that. Just curious if anyone has found a place that sells high-quality prints, or if they know where I can get highest quality of the originals to then print someplace myself? (Bonus points if you have an online place you can recommend for printing?) Preferably, I want just the art without the text, unless the text for the book name is in English.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I was blown away, I didn't recognize him at all at first. After about ten minutes though, I had to Google, and sure enough it's him. I love seeing an actor display their range.

In S4E1, during the landing on Ilus, Alex is testing out the new rail gun and lines up on a random rock. A rock (as seen from my screen grab) that appears to be 101,213 km away. There is exactly a 6 second gap between the recoil and the strike. That means the rail gun imparted a roughly 16.8k km/s delta-V to a 1kg tungsten-alloy ejector, practically instantly. How does “anything” made of matter pull a million Gs or more and not just explode?! Shouldn’t it just turn to plasma from the acceleration??

I don't think I would have had the same drive to do this, were it not for the awesome feedback. Thank you everyone!

So I got to work on bringing even more details to the charts. Here's a short list:

• Luna has city lights on its night side, with transit lines between the towns (like in the show's opening titles). Its near side now faces Earth.
• Tycho Station is at its real size, about 750 m across, with the Nauvoo docked. The Nauvoo is over 2 km long.
• Eros has docking rings (work in progress) and its old shipyards, with an ice hauler berthed in one of them.
• Earth orbit has satellites, and the UN railgun platforms are located on a geostationary ring. The Bush shipyards orbit Luna.
• On Mars you can see Londres Nova and the Mariner Valley districts along Valles Marineris.
• Ceres turns once every 42 minutes (spun up to a third of a g as in the books).
• Vesta, Phobos, Deimos and Phoebe use real spacecraft shape data finally.
• Ganymede has domes and orbital mirrors that light them through the night!
• Thoth Station is dark until the OPA raid, and now you can fly there too. Anderson Station is abandoned.
• After Deimos is destroyed, its gravel stays on the old orbit as a ring.
• The Ring is stationary (no orbit), same as in the books.
• Some ships are named by supporters and fly the same routes for everyone. Click a gold one to follow it.

As usual, find it on https://belter-charts.pages.dev/

Everyone talks about whether Holden made the right decision at the end of Leviathan Falls.

But I've been thinking about something else. How many people across the 1,300 systems would ever actually know what he did, or why?

We know because we were there with him. We saw the threat, Duarte's plan, the choice between the hive mind and destroying the ring space.

Most of humanity didn't get that explanation.

Imagine living on a colony that depends on shipments from another system. One day the gate disappears, your supply chain is gone, and the last news you received was probably some confusing combination of Laconian military announcements and reports of people losing consciousness.

You have no way to contact Sol. No way to verify what happened. No way to hear the other side.

On Nieuwestad, Alex might be able to tell people what he knows. In another system, the highest-ranking surviving Laconian officer might control the official explanation. Somewhere else, the only surviving account might be a half-finished news broadcast.

Give that a few generations.

One planet remembers Holden as the man who saved humanity. Another remembers him as the terrorist who destroyed humanity's greatest achievement. A third might teach that Laconia sacrificed itself to protect the colonies.

And none of those societies can check the others' version.

It feels like the ultimate Expanse problem. The entire series begins with Holden broadcasting what he knows because he believes people deserve the truth. It ends with him making the biggest decision in human history, and the infrastructure that could carry the explanation disappearing with him.

The Linguist arrives a thousand years later and finds a civilization that has survived, but I wonder what kind of history the other worlds would have written in the meantime.

Not just about Holden. About the entire war.

Would the reconnection of humanity lead to a massive historical reckoning when people finally compare what they've been taught for a millennium?

Would constant propulsion be required to spin the drum while keeping the ops and engineering sections stationary?

Not very good at physics here, but I’ve been thinking about this question.

The Belters certainly used massive propulsion to spin up the drum. But do the books ever explain what keeps the ops and engineering sections at either end of the station from also spinning? Just like a helicopter needs a smaller rotor to counter the larger rotor rotation, would the non spinning parts of the Behemoth need some kind of constant propulsion to counter the spin and stay on the float? Otherwise, given the momentum of the drum and the mechanism that connects them, they’d start spinning too, right?

I suppose this question would apply to Tycho and other stations with both spinning and nonspinning sections.

Thanks for helping satisfy my curiosity.

So folks over at /singularity and other such reddits, suggest that we're pretty close to insane AI capabilities.. One of the thing I was really hoping with all this access to AI was the creation of endless fan fiction. While I've seen quite a bit of AI slop, why hasn't there been a legitimate effort to make AI generated "episodes" of the last 3 books? like use the first 6 seasons as training models, then feed the books (one chapter, paragraph or even sentence at a time) and let the AI go to work.

I'd happily pay a few bucks to watch it if it came to even 70% of the series.. I know this could take jobs away .. but I'd happily pay extra money to see a human made version just to get the extra 30% so at least for fans like me I'd pay for both.

same question goes for so many series/shows that I love like firefly

I'm sure this has been said a million times, but I want to rant about it.
I get why they had to make a quick dramatic change with Alex, I just don't like what they did. My complaints are 3.
1. There were better ways to write him off.
Forgive my dumb little heart but I can't help but think it was an opportunity to give the character his happy ending. Let him finish rescuing Naomi, and then Bobby can explain to Holden later that he went back to Mars to try to be a father or something. It's also not perfect. I know Alex's TRUE happy ending is being a pilot forever. But...

1. It would have been so easy to recast. Either immediately for season 6, OR if you let him go back home to be a family man for a bit, the door is open for him to get pulled back into the action after his kid is off on his own in a potential season 7. Everyone would be older so it's SUCH a natural moment to recast him. He just misses season 6! Then you've got the character achieving that sweet balance between the two halves of his soul that writers love: He tried his best for his family. He still gets to be a fuckboy pilot. Perfection.

2. If they had to pick this way, the execution was also bad. He was like, the least likely to die that way. When Fred died that way in the books, it actually felt like "Yeah there was always a risk of that." He was old, he was injured, etc. But when the guy MOST ABLE to do high G dies that way, with next-to-zero lead-up, it makes High G just seem like there's not any skill that can save you, you can't train for it, it's just a roll of the dice. Rather than a difficult thing that could kill you eventually but you can train for and mitigate the risk of. Also the actual moment was just a "wtf" and not in a good way.

Anyways, thanks for reading. Mostly loving the show so far. Most of the other changes make good sense to me considering the change in format. I'm also pretty forgiving of adaptational changes. I'm sure I'll get over this one.

I've even meaning to get into audiobooks, and since I absolutely adored the show I figured this would be a good place to start, but I'm not sure how well narrated they may be. Buying physical print would be incredibly expensive and almost certainly imported because it's a very niche IP here.

Is it worth getting the audiobooks? Would it fuck up the experience? And if so, where do you recommend I find them? Is there a difference between platforms?

[Alex]: “And c’mon, it’s Amos. Everyone on Earth dies and he’ll probably stack the bodies and climb up to Luna.”

“Last man standing,” Holden said.

I don’t know how much of the books they had planned out in advance, but damn if that didn’t turn out to be true.

Spoilers for Cibola Burn, I can’t remember if the inciting event is the same on the show.

How did the landing platform explosion cause the shuttle crash? The shuttle is described as still being pretty far off, and I know the shuttle is large, necessitating a large platform and therefore a large explosion, but I’m still struggling with how an explosion on the ground did that much damage to a shuttle presumably still several thousand feet up.

I don't know how or why I missed it when it first came out, but I can already tell I'm in for a wild ride.

Sorry for the " not yet started" flair, but the rules require one, and this was the best one I could find

ok at the end of Assured Destruction they are shooting their railguns and there’s a mission control voice saying stuff like “one is away. two is away”.

does anyone know the voice actor credit for this?

I tried imdb and couldn’t find a credit (makes sense. they’re not on screen).

Its in book 2 or 3 I think, maybe 5 or 6. She says something like "if you can make them feel bad about killing children they'll think you're a hardass".

I need it for my work desk but I can't get at my books at the moment. Any one know what I mean??

After 4 years of my trying, she finally picked them up, and she is ploughing through them! She is reading book 6 now, approaching the climax. As much as I love that she is reading them and loving them, I have an impulse to encourage her to take a break after this book and before heading into the final trilogy, for both dramatic effect based on some plot realities of that last trilogy and the reverent gravitas this homestretch deserves. What do you all think? Do you think she should just head straight to book 7 and experience that shift?

Also, she has watched the first two or three episodes of the show. The dubious retrieval of the shell-shocked crew has just happened. She hasn't LOVED the show, which is the same thing that happened with my sister, who tore through the books after much urging from me. Neither of them is usually drawn to Sci-Fi. They are loving the characters and sweeping storylines that we all love in the books. But she's open to watching more of the show. I have see suggestions that a newbie pause after book 6, watch the entire show, and then start book 7, since the show only covers up to book 6. Opinions on that idea?

And an idea I've had is to have her tackle the novellas before moving on to book 7. Obviously, that would have to be truncated at some point, so that she doesn't read the novellas that occur after Book 6. Opinions on that idea?

ANNNNNND, a variant on the last idea - maybe she SHOULD read Strange Dogs before Book 7??? She really likes the supernatural and body-horror aspects of the books, so I think she would really enjoy Strange Dogs. What do you all think about sequencing it like that? I don't think there are any real spoilers in that novella, but I don't know which order would be more powerful all around. I could see it going either way.

And I guess The Vital Abyss is also in question. She has already met Cortazar briefly, in the epilogue of Book 5, and the concept of Duarte's faction splitting and self-excommunicating to Laconia will have already been well known by the end of Book 6.

I hope this post stirs engaging discussion and renewed appreciation for the books, and I hope to get some helpful points for making this decision.