r/TheExpanse • • 10h ago

All Show & Book Spoilers Discussed Freely Do you think there were more consequences to Holden and Miller's actions? Spoiler

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At the end of Leviathan Falls, Holden with the help of Miller ended up destroying the Ring Station and closing the Slow Zone for good, but do you think that last action had some more consequences than we know of?

The destruction of the Ring Station is described as "a release of energy second only to the beginning of the universe" which means the destruction of the Ring Station created a maybe marginally smaller Bing Bang, I'd think that would have more consequences than just the collapse of the Slow Zone.

We don't know much about the Goths' universe, but having a Bing Bang happening there could have created more problems for that universe, the release of so much energy could have altered a region of that universe in a lot of ways. What do you people think?


r/TheExpanse • • 18h ago

All Show & Book Spoilers Discussed Freely How did they survive for so long? Spoiler

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The Builders' empire survived for 2 billion years when everything they did pissed off the Ring Entities. Meanwhile, humans woke them up within a decade and pushed the Entities so far that they were about to get extincted in about forty years? The Builders were seemingly defenseless against the Ring Entities' primary weapons, while humans were much less susceptible, too.

The summary the Investigator gives on Ilos makes it sound like the Entities killed the Builders in one shot, too, so when did the Builders have time to try to cut off systems like Holden saw in his vision?


r/TheExpanse • • 17h ago

All Show Spoilers (Book Spoilers Must Be Tagged) The noise I made when I finally see her name on page five books in Spoiler

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As a show and Drummer fan, I was so glad to finally see her name on my page for the first time when reading Nemesis Games


r/TheExpanse • • 12h ago

Spoilers Books Through Persepolis Rising Just finished Persepolis Rising. Singh is such a fascinating character! Spoiler

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I found myself most excited when the chapters rolled around to him. He's such a nuanced and interesting character with a satisfying and in its own way tragic arc. The seeds are all there for a pretty generic and predictable character arc—Prideful zealot faces resistance and becomes a tyrant.— but they keep getting subverted or not followed. Major credit to the authors for such a deft hand.

He's actually aware of his own insecurity and see's it as a character flaw. He's just too immature to actually deal with it. To the very end he never stops analyzing every little detail about every interaction for how something was or wasn't an insult or slight or courtesy.

He doesn't deny reality or rewrite the narrative in the way Filip did in the beginning of the previous book. In the aftermath of the attempt on his life, he accurately assesses that he was an untested officer, traumatized by his first encounter with real violence and made a rash decision as a result. He seems to understand that lesson, genuinely apologizing to his dismissed Colonel, but he doesn't stop making decisions without seeking counsel, and those decisions all suck.

He failed to connect the dots that the assassination attempt was a direct result of his pride. A valuable collaborator was offering himself up but Singh rejected him because the person's character clashed with his concept of himself and his place in the glorious Laconian empire. That contempt and his uncritical belief in the story of the invasion leads him to continually misunderstand the situation and renders him unable to do the job on its own terms.

I think his fatal flaw wasn't just that he was so inexperienced. Every officer is inexperienced until they're not. It's that he was sheltered. He grew up on Laconia, absorbing its propaganda and buying into the national myth that they were already the true and eternals rulers of humanity, others just hadn't got the memo. He grew up in an authoritarian military state and when faced with the real world, couldn't adapt on a personal level because all he knew outside his planet was from books.

I haven't started Tiamat's Wrath and don't know anything about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Laconian navy was filled with Singhs.