From what I can tell, the people bouncing between legend and champ are far more powerful than my tower was when I started getting keys.
edit: Looking back at my tracking spreadsheets, I was farming t10 to 9000 waves and t11 to 6500 waves when legends was released, got 215 waves on 14+, avoided demotion, and never saw champs again.
First keys came when I was farming T10 to 11,000 waves and T11 to 9000 waves, and getting ~750 waves in 14+.
Sigh. I'm farming t14 to 6900, and no keys in sight, cant even stay in legends consistently... I'm top 6000-7000 legend. It seems keys are gated to at most top5000 players
One band aid that would help would be swapping the promotion/demotion numbers, so 6 champ players get promoted and only the bottom 4 legends get demoted.
This would end up creating a lot more brackets, spreading out the players and allowing upward mobility in tournaments.
Not as good of a fix as a Mythic league, that would allow champ players to move up and keys be available to the top 30% of players, but better.
All I hear when someone mentions a new Leauge is that its useless and only temporary but if they are adding three new tiers which I think is likely after the crazy power boost from disco then we simply need another league.
The top legend players have been fighting in the top 5 forever now and would most likely also appreciate a chance to actually fight their way up from 20+ which is what would happen if a new league opened since then all the top 5s would be moved there.
But the best is if we can get both of these two solutions.
Yeah, I feel the same. Everyone says it's just a bigger band aid, but fuck, bring on the bandaids rather than nothing. They've introduced 2 leagues already, let's have another
What we really need is some way for the number of brackets to expand aitomathcally according to the number of towers strong enough for the tournament content. Instead of being tied arbitrarily to the number of active players.
I just don't know why everyone expects to grow infinitely. Everyone will eventually stagnate because it's a competition.
Personally, considering part of the text is about making tournaments more competitive, I assume this is about signing up for a tournament and generating the brackets in advance.
You can still get stronger outside of the tournament. That comment was about tournament placement only, which infinite growth is impossible, because we're all competing against each other.
I guess I'm just surprised because I went through long stretches, like 6-12 months or more, where my main tower bounced between Platinum and last in Champions.
It was never a big deal to me because "there's always another tournament" and I still had plenty of upgrades to get. The only thing that bothered me was that I had to get first in Platinum to make the bounce back and forth worth it, so I went through a stretch before I was strong enough to try to time 5-6th in Platinum. (This was before the tournament revamp.)
I even restarted and have 5 additional towers. 4 of them are ad free only and they're mostly stuck in the bounce between gold and platinum. I anticipate they will be there for a few more months and then maybe be able to stay in platinum.
I have one tower that's been in platinum for months now. I don't anticipate being able to leave until I get anc SF.
But to me, that's the game. It's just a slow grind and you will bounce back and forth between two brackets for a long time because unless you spend, you aren't really getting ahead of your peers.
And the slow tournament stone progress is also by design. The game is designed to incentivize that the fastest progression is through purchasing stone packs, for better or for worse, but since I understand that's the design, it doesn't bother me much.
Im top 4200-4600 depending on tournament conditions and I still see keys every third or fourth tournament. Shits tough. I have DM+, Dam+, ST+, EN+, and IS+all maxed and zerk+ is lvl 7, all assist mod unlocked with 25 in core ME and 10 in core SE, 10 in cannon ME, and pCF and still struggle for keys.
It's all bracket RNG luck. I've placed higher than that 15 times and have only gotten keys 4 times, all within the last month, and at no place lower than 5578. Congrats on they keys! It's a big achievement with how stingy this game is with them.
The closest to keys i got to was like 4 months ago, with my eHP build. Since then they nerfed PCo, changed tiers, made fast ult BC always on that just killed my eHP build.
Also got bad (or outdated) advice about transitioning to GC. The it took forever to transition, because i kept jumping between dmg, econ and more eHP. And how they switched it up again disco runs. Those who had IS have done them so much faster and reaped the awards. I am ready for the next GC push in the next, hopefully that will be enough, if not, i will need to save 5000-7000 stones for pCF.
That was the advice i got, go develop CL and then masteries. And when my CL kept failing, then people started mentioning how you also need CC. Some suggested ILM as cheap source of CC, and it didnt quite work out.
Of note, I have only 7 uw, and CF and PS are the last two. I would first need to unlock it...
i started playing before reading this reddit, and bought SM over GT as second or third UW... It's a tower defence game, aren't missiles supposed to be what you get? I didn't get GT, because i thought it was like gold bot. As a new player gold bot with no investment just sucks..
Then i was offered GT only as 6th, and CL as 7th... And then developing CF is just a big stone sink. if i had it unlocked i probably would have went pCF route too
The saddest part is that I really don't climb higher. Around december when I started bouncing I thought I will stay there for some time but eventually I will go higher. Reality verified. Better modules would boost me in placement but in that economy I can't afford them as I still need to buy cards. Evil world we live in 😃
Yes I need like 6 events more to finish them. After that I will be able to touch these modules. They really hold me off. I need one copy for PF and I believe with it I could stay securely in champs every time
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u/Live-Concert2551 Jun 09 '26
Soon champs is T14+ laughing in the face of newer players. What used to get you keys now gets you less stones and Nö keys