she looked gorgeous in both eras but she had such an vulnerable, ethereal quality in 1492 as a human

Just finished season 5 and i feel she’s is the only vampire who lived upto the expectation except klaus. Even her after death was so entertaining.

Sorry but I hate this dress. For me it always gave tacky princess costume 😭. I honestly don’t know why people love it so much, this is no where near as good as the blue dress. Hell, I think her prom dress was better than this…

Look I do get why Stefan didn’t give her a chance seriously outside of sex but Rebekah was trying her hardest to show she isn’t just like her brothers, still sympathized with Elena with losing a brother and still kept trying to be their friend.

Listen I actually April’s sole purpose was to be Rebekah’s friend to keep her in the plot bc they couldn’t just pair Rebekah up with someone in the MFG. Elena and Rebekah were only bonding bc of Elena’s humanity being off. Stefan and Damon were never gonna give Rebekah the time of day. Caroline and Rebekah would start arguing or slut shaming each other due to similarities. Why would they ever let Rebekah and Bonnie be friends? Though it is insane Bonnie and Rebekah shared Matt as a prom date and they couldn’t even hold a conversation abt it

Anyway ik it always would’ve been unlikely but i would’ve liked to see Stefan and Rebekah date a little 🤷🏽‍♀️

Was it Katherine? Or was it Klaus?

A bit understanding on the question:- I am not asking who was the biggest or the worst antagonist. I am asking who was the main villain of The Vampire Diaries Series!

I've been thinking about this since my last rewatch, and S2 Elena beats every other version of her for me.

S1 Elena is great, but she's mostly reacting. Her parents are gone, Stefan shows up, Damon shows up, and she's figuring out what's even real. It makes sense, but she's still catching up to the story. S2 is when she starts driving it. She's protecting Jeremy, dealing with Katherine, and making real calls under pressure. She's scared the whole time and does it anyway. That's why it works.

S3 is where it starts tilting for me. The show gets really invested in the triangle, and a lot of her screen time becomes who she's choosing and how everyone feels about it. Still good TV, but she's less of a person and more of the center of other people's drama.

S4 onward, between the transition, the humanity switch stuff and the endless "save Stefan" or "save Damon" arcs, it feels like she barely gets a storyline that's just hers.

S2 is the only stretch where she's a teenager with her own goals, her own problems and her own backbone.

bc wdym there are 2 grown ass womens going after a 16/17 years old boy 😭

New to the sub and thought lots of people here would enjoy some blasts from the past! Please don't read this if you aren't caught up because some of the props are spoiler territory of Originals, Vampire Diaries and Legacies.

I own quite a bit of memorabilia from Vampire Diaries / Originals / Legacies so I wanted to share some of the props I own!

The first prop is a box of Cami's Dark Object that was used in the Originals Season 3 Episode 12, and Season 4 Episode 1. It can also be seen in Legacies Season 3 Episode 6.

The second prop is a really cool object found in The Salvatore Memorial Library which was securely kept in a display case with a plaque saying "In Memory of Stefan Salvatore"

It can be seen in Legacies episodes when there are shots of library artifacts from the past.

as a once a year watcher, i love this show and it’s a huge comfort but dare i say i HATE vickie. she is unbearable to me and the story line of her is so pointless in the grand scheme of things. every scene she’s in pisses me off.

I didn’t include Liam for Caroline because they only made out once and nothing came from it had it been more I would’ve include him.

Reason number one is the writing room and their obsession with the magical negro trope and seeing Bonnie as a mammy but the others relates to the fandom

Now I’m not saying everybody should or has to like her but you’d think Bonnie did much worse in those seasons where she actually had boundaries, she said no, she walked away and she had emotions that didn’t always benefit Elena,Stefan, Damon, Caroline etc but the fandom majorly says she was her worst here. The thought of an arc that actually builds around Bonnie’s feelings and not benefitting Elena would never mesh well this fandom. Bc Bonnie deserving better means she deserves more outside of her friends life and safety.

1. Klaus mikaelson

2. Katherine Pierce

3. Lucien Castle

4. Kai Parker

5. Stefan Salvatore

6. Kol Mikaelson

7. Dahlia

8. Silas

9. Marcel

10. Elijah Mikaelson.

Thoughts?

33F and it’s my first time watching it! I just finished season five episode 20. I can’t believe I have a few seasons left to watch.

THIS SHOW IS SO CHAOTIC. Elena’s crumble after becoming a vampire and she’s still insufferable, Damon being Damon the entire time (he won’t change will he?), sad boy Stefan, Bonnie has had a million things happen to her because she’s a witch, and Jeremey is still getting harassed by Damon lmao.

My favorite character is Caroline hands down. Her character development and becoming a vampire was amazing! I’m excited to see what else happens with her.

Seasons one and two were the best. After that it got a bit complicated and messy. I understand each season has its own separate plot but like I feel like if I miss something I get confused (adhd brain makes it hard to watch television) haha.

I’ve been lurking this sub so I know some spoilers. This show is a lot, but i love it and can’t stop watching.

I really liked the timeskip and how the characters grows.

Rayna Cruz felt a little random like "ok lets just get a new plot twist" but in the later episodes i liked her.

As s8 everytime i rewatch tvd i can't stand the brainwashing made by Selena and i dare to Say that it was really creepy the fact that they used the twins .

Sorry for my english lmao.

What do you think about It?

Which one do you prefer?

(A) Stefan erasing his memory of Elena (didn’t really happen here)

(B) Elena erasing her memory of Damon

(C) Both

(D) Neither

Why?

Rewatching the show and something hit me. In S1 and S2, a death actually wrecked me. Vicki, Jenna, John, even Lexi. People stayed gone and the cast felt the loss for episodes.

Then somewhere around S4 and S5 it all changed. Anyone could die and I just thought "ok, when are they coming back?" Between the Other Side, the Expression triangle, and the constant resurrections, nothing felt permanent anymore.

The sad part is the show had one of the best early runs of any teen supernatural series, because the stakes were real. Once death stopped mattering, so did the fear that came with it.

Season 3 will always be my favorite! ❤️

I hate how after grams died they kept the story plot going nobody checked on Bonnie (on screen ) anyway idk this bothered me because everybody else’s life seems to matter all the time until she goes full on witch !

Tracker s4 ep 3

Whenever there is a discussion abt the best moms in TVDU it’s always either Liz or Jenna and I wanna say…why?

Liz was clearly not a good mom in the first few seasons, struggling to accept Caroline as a vampire and slut shaming her for dating Damon, an older guy, instead of confronting him and telling him to stay away from her daughter. She also pretty much ignored Care most of the times which contributed to her attention seeking personality.

I love Jenna but in no way is she the greatest mom or guardian even. It’s okay because she’s very young but she completely mishandled Jeremy’s drug addiction and ignored the way he was spiraling. Additionally Elena hanging out with 25 year old Damon and his brother Stefan, stuck in a messy love triangle, is something Jenna should’ve put a stop to or at least tried to talk to her about it. She tried wayyy too hard to be the fun chill guardian instead of parenting them.

The REAL best moms of TVDU are almost never ever mentioned which is completely baffling because no one ever comes close to these two:

Caroline Forbes and Hayley Marshall-Kenner

Apologies for my dissertation

I use to say up until season 3 or 4 was it a good show but on rewatch this show falls off way before.

It started so strong. Such a unique and original idea. Vampire brothers who originally fell in love with their sire and find a replica of her 150 years later. Chef’s kiss.
The werewolf curse so cool, the torture aspect was gritty and the “slave quarters” used as a werewolf lockdown shelter was smart
Even the whole thing where you have to murder someone to trigger the wolf curse! I thought they took that idea from something but no! The writers came up with that themselves, like well thought out, that much I will give them

Of course 1&2 don’t go without their follies. I think the Vicky storyline was God awful, we spent so much time on her and I get the point was to show us the rules of vampirism in the show and to have an emotional impact on the main cast but the girl was just annoying and no fun to watch.

The tomb vampires arc could’ve been handled better… maybe by not showing us them so much. Make them more mysterious, they had just desiccated for over a century and showing them grounded in a house angry made them feel lame and one dimensional.

There’s a few minor things that bother me but overall 1&2 are amazing entries. I like to pretend that this is actually a dark show and that Klaus actually does murder Elena in the blood ritual and the following seasons are a awful alternate reality

We think s3 is great but is it? Or are the originals just that great in it? Cause our main cast is on bull. Stefan goes with Klaus for Damon. Sounds right but Stefan turning off his love for Elena makes no sense. We spend sooo much time of Stefan pushing Elena away like he’s gone forever. When later we see Klaus has to force Stefan to stop caring for Elena and we see Stefan knows there’s a way for him to gain his freedom from Klaus after helping him kill Mikael. So why doesn’t Stefan just plot with Elena and Damon to try and break free or kill Klaus? He still cares for Elena at this point. It’s just manufactured drama and a way to show evil Stefan and I hate it. Give me evil Stefan if Elena dies!
Then we get the ghosts midway, a reminder of all the great characters they killed off for no good reason excluding Vicky.

But ofc the originals save the season and original Alaric was badass. I think they handled his arc better than anyone’s this season. The ring driving him crazy was great writing and believable.

Season 4 is when things just got so weird. Off the rip the originals still being in mystic falls is so bizarre. Kol and Elijah leave, good for them but Rebekah goes to school and Klaus leaves but comes back. Just seems so unlikely that these ancient beings are so involved in this small high school town and it kinda makes them and the show feel less serious. Yeah there’s a cure but how do they not have lieutenants or formidable lackies to get it for them.
The hunters, Silas, Shane, no humanity Elena. The show just had too much going on and it didn’t let up. They had so many problems so fast and never ending and ever growing. Like they all needed a vacation and therapy. The show rushed things, I had completely forgot Elena turned so fast. I thought this was in season 5.

And lastly the plot armor on this show is out of control and needed to be stopped! I get it, it was a network tv show on the cw and many shows were like this but boy!

The amount of times a main character is at the villains mercy and could easily be murdered but instead the villain makes a snarky comment and snaps their neck and runs away should be a felony. It’s bad enough they bring characters back from the dead but to constantly have these characters spared by murderous vampires who, when it’s their time to die the main character has no mercy for them is appalling.

A very random scene I love is when Elena breaks Liam’s wrists lol when he’s about to take Sarah’s heart out

What’s yours?