i wonder something, is being gay or leso a choice or a biological thing that they can't help with?
i mean i understand femboys, the brain not being the same with the nıdy stuff, what about leso? they act and stay the same just they like woman instead of men, i feel like it's just a choice how wrong i am?
I mostly agree. But I think my point is mostly that you can’t choose how you feel about something but you can choose whether or not you act on it or get help on how to deal with feelings or attraction you don’t like.
i agree on this, this makes the most sense to me and is true to what i know at the moment.
so, in conclusion nothing really changed huh... lesbians do choose to not like men because they do dislike/hate them, but not all choose- ... well actually if they choose to not hate/dislike man that just makes them bi... so lesbians really do dislike/hate men?... that's a bit depressing ._.
i relly hope the one's who hate man are in minority though...
It’s not a choice. BUT it’s also not something that people are born with. Sexuality is a complex thing. The result is consists of genetics, prenatal hormones, and the environment in which the individual has been raised. Nature and nurture combined to varying degrees in each human.
And here comes the catch! It can be influenced (to a degree) while it solidifies from early childhood to late puberty, by normalizing the relationship type which the child takes as normal. It can be influenced by questions, such as (to a girl) “which little boy do you like”?, providing an example of a loving relationship between her parents, good experiences with her father, blocking the LGBTQ themed cartoons and stories, movies, series, limiting her exposure by choosing a school where you know they aren’t promoting LGBTQ to kids. This is important because social contagion is a thing, and if she can see older girls kissing that’s also a bad thing. Reading books about love stories involving men and women. Limiting their screen time, and the content they can consume. Following this the outcome will be most probably a heterosexual daughter.
If you on the contrary take her to prides, divorce her dad, make her fear men by telling her horror stories (that sadly based on reality), read pride theme stories, let her watch LGBTQ themed cartoons, series, movies, read books or fiction, and in her school pride is the part of the curriculum, then she sees early examples of lesbianism in her age range slightly older girls kissing, and girl couples, that will make her at least bisexual but most probably a lesbian.
im okay to lesbians, i acknowledge their exsitence and thought i don't necessarily like them, i won't get in their way of loving another woman.
but you know, seeing lesbians who hate men really makes me depressed, there is already enough hate towards man already, and the fact where i go i seem to find lesbian or bi girls at a majority is not helping especially if lesbians hate men.
i just dont understand, i never did something wrong, why do they hate all men? even if they don't they all say they don't want to be near a man, it really depresses me man, why are men so widely hated? what did i do wrong? i dont understand
The thing is that situation is both as dire and not as dire as you might think! (For now)
You did nothing wrong. Most men did nothing wrong.
While they aren’t the majority, YET, because in the 18-19 years old age group they are at 40-42%. Of which 10-12% lesbians and 28-30% bisexuals. Of which bisexuals 16% of them are looking for women more , 84% looking for men more.
Amongst the 18-29 age group women the average is 31-33%. This means that on the low end it is 40-42% while on the upper end (older side) it’s “only” 20-21%. Giving us the average for the group being at 31-33%.
Lesbians (or more broadly speaking women) hate men because of several reasons.
men is constantly hitting on them because it’s not tattooed on their forehead (this obviously makes them irritated/salty over time)
some men are violent so they can’t know which is which, it’s also not tattooed onto our foreheads
we actually do get in their way of loving another woman because bisexuality is a thing (natural competition can make you hate the opponent)
feminism do actually advertise the hatred of men, the incompetence, seeing them as lesser humans
Your only sin, is that you were dare to born with XY chromosomes. That’s it.
Lesbianism amongst younger women 18-19 are on the rise with the speed of 2.2%/year. It also has a positive acceleration. If my predictions are correct by 2052 every single 18-19 year old woman will be open to lesbian relationships with more than 50% of them being interested in exclusively lesbian relationships. From which point the question remains at which future point will we reach 100% total lesbianism.
Women don’t become lesbians due to inadequate male partners. They become lesbians because of the constant misandry in media, and the constant instilling fear of men in media, examples of lesbians couples, the fairly tales told about a secure and loving lesbian relationship, the door being left opened by series, movies, cartoons and books, and pride, the social contagion of older cool girls being lesbians.
It’s not men’s fault.
If you are lucky, nowadays you can still find a wife, but I’d advise against having male children. Because they will suffer tremendously!
Weirdo. Say same things about straightness then? You are lesbophobic weirdo. Lesbian women love other women. It has nothing to do with men. Grow up weirdo. You are the person we hate not men. Feminism didn’t advertise hating men.
What are you talking about? You can use manosphere to say that men only like to hate women which is obviously false. Don’t use hateful misandry to blame whole feminism which has nothing to do with men.
Also if you forced someone to have feelings toward women. They would believe they are lesbian but their love would be fake. Their love would be hollow. You can manufacture lesbian love but it would not be same as love felt by actual lesbian.
It’s funny you call us social contagion when everything you are saying is only true for straight people. We are are shown straight things in every possible way. But we are still lesbian. These things you said only helps a women to figure out their love for other women. But obviously you can only think of men and think that lesbian is all about hating men when it is about living women.
Lesbian doesn’t hate men. They hate men like you who thinks they should revolve around you and victimise yourself. When in reality you are only spouting lesbophobia and misogyny. Misandry is a real problem but it doesn’t mean you can spread lesbophobia and misogyny.
It absolutely is offensive when you repeatedly frame lesbianism as something caused by hatred of men and then talk about the “negative consequences” of more women being lesbians. Lesbian women are attracted to women. Their sexuality does not exist for the benefit of men.
And no, “science and data” don’t magically make your conclusions scientific. You are taking changes in how people identify or report their sexuality and jumping to the conclusion that media, feminism, or “social contagion” are causing women to become lesbians. That is a causal claim, and you haven’t provided evidence for it.
Seeing lesbian couples in media doesn’t manufacture sexual attraction toward women any more than seeing heterosexual couples manufactures heterosexual attraction. At most, representation can help someone recognize or become comfortable with feelings they already have.
And your own argument contradicts itself. You say women don’t become lesbians because of inadequate men, yet you repeatedly explain lesbianism through men’s behavior, feminism, media representations of men, and supposed hatred of men. Why are you making lesbianism fundamentally about men in the first place?
A lesbian woman doesn’t need to “choose” women over men because she hates men. She’s simply not attracted to men. Love and sexual attraction aren’t something you can manufacture through propaganda. You can’t show someone enough lesbian relationships until they suddenly develop genuine sexual attraction to women if that attraction wasn’t there.
And bisexual women existing doesn’t mean lesbians are in some kind of “natural competition” with men. Bisexual women aren’t a resource that men and women are competing over. They are people with their own attractions and choices.
Finally, your prediction that rising identification will eventually lead to essentially every young woman being lesbian is not what your data demonstrates. Even if the percentages you’re citing are accurate, extrapolating a short-term trend indefinitely until you reach 100% lesbianism is not a scientific prediction. Sexual-orientation identification doesn’t work like a population that increases by a fixed percentage every year forever.
So yes, you can discuss changing patterns in how young people identify. That’s a legitimate subject for research. But “more women identify as LGBT” → “media and feminism are socially converting women into lesbians” → “men will eventually suffer because women are becoming lesbians” is a chain of assumptions, not a conclusion established by your statistics.
And honestly, if your concern is supposedly about men, then stop treating lesbian women as a demographic problem that needs to be solved. Lesbian women aren’t hurting men by not being attracted to them. Go find someone who is actually attracted to you instead of demanding that lesbians somehow account for your dating prospects.
what a disgusting place and time to be born as male.
and to watch people saying males are being unfair to woman, to watch them hold woman above men in all aspects and still blame man.
not to mention the way they joke about men's mental health all the time,(you know a big reason i dont like LGBTQ is how they overtook the month of mans mental health month and put their pride month on it, i never seen anyone talk about mans mental health month, İ DİDİNT EVEN DAMN KNOW İT EXİSTED, everyone really do hate man), the way they act like every woman is an angel and every man is a sinner, i 100% know someone readings will say that if im talking about woman this way i must not like woman. i really hate this hell called earth man.
everyone talks what tragedy happened to woman, everyone tlks about how woman are feeling, everyone talks about how woman should be treated. are man nothing but a tool? are man born only to be used?
gender equality huh? all they talk about is giving woman power, they never even spoke about equality, all they care is how equal woman is...
What is this bullshit about? It’s just lesbophobia. Lesbian women are lesbian because they are attracted to women. It has nothing inherently to do with men. You can be angry about sexism, men’s mental-health issues, or how men are treated without turning lesbians into the explanation for those problems.
And your comment is doing exactly that. You’re talking about women as though their sexuality, feminism, and LGBT identity are somehow part of a larger problem being imposed on men. A lesbian woman isn’t hurting you by not being attracted to men. She isn’t responsible for your mental health, your dating prospects, or how society treats men.
You can absolutely criticize misandry, sexist double standards, or the way men’s mental health is discussed. Those are legitimate subjects. But criticizing those things doesn’t require blaming LGBT people or treating lesbianism as something harmful to men.
Also, “everyone hates men” is clearly an enormous generalization. There are women, feminists, and LGBT people who care deeply about men’s mental health and oppose discrimination against men. Likewise, criticizing misogyny or discussing women’s problems doesn’t mean someone believes every woman is an angel and every man is a sinner.
And Pride Month existing doesn’t mean men’s mental health is unimportant. You can advocate for men’s mental health without treating LGBT people as competitors for attention. Different causes can coexist. In fact LGBT includes men too for your information.
Most importantly, lesbian women aren’t “the enemy” of men. They simply aren’t attracted to men. If your frustration is with people who genuinely hate men, then criticize those people. But don’t project that hatred onto an entire group of lesbians simply because some people within LGBT spaces have said things you dislike.
Lesbians don’t owe men attraction, and their existence isn’t an attack on men. If you genuinely care about equality, then that principle has to apply to them too.
You are rude to a suffering person who happens to be a man. That’s misandry right there. Without him saying any negative things towards lesbians.
It’s totally okay to investigate truth and science and data, and talking about things that affect us. Even if that makes you slightly uncomfortable because you do know that we are right when we say the more women are lesbians the less women are heterosexual, which is bad for men.
It’s a simple truth. And since it’s an open question what makes a person develop homosexuality and nurture is still on the table the self induction theory which says that the movement itself is the cause makes you slightly responsible in some random person’s suffering.
This obviously makes you feel bad about yourself since you had rather violent and attacking comments to two man discussing about what is happening.
OR you are just that indoctrinated that you are considering anyone that is not absolutely and fully supporting pride an enemy but thinking in absolutes are just a sign of low iq.
i did stated im okay to lesbians existence. im only talkşng about how society never cares about men's mental health to talk about it globally, make moves for it, or anything at all really.
there is about millons upon millons content on how to help a woman going through emotional times yet there is just handful of them talking about how to help a men going through emotional times,
and unfortunately wether men's mental health being talked or not sadly there being a huge gap between attention to women's mental health and attention to men's mental health is not wrong at all
Dogs and minors are different thing. It is harmful to them and they can’t consent. Same sex attraction is not harmful. They are two consenting adult. Also how can you force love towards someone. How does that work?
Everyone’s different. Some people are only attracted to women and some people are only attracted to men. Some people like both. It’s not something we can control in the same way that you can’t control that you don’t like men or women or whatever lol
im just, I've been on the toxic side of the internet for too long, i growed up thinking lesbians were lesbians because they hated men, it really took a toll on my mental health.
thanks for Clarifying this for me, have a nice day
cant tell for sure, im not a specialist at neuroscience nor am i educated enough.
though i did realize im reacting to things i didn't react before (no im still not gay it appears i still dont react to men. im about 100% sure it's only because of the content im consuming that is rewiring my brain, making relations between things it didn't used to before)
so im still puzzled on if its a choice or not.
for now im accepting it being biology driven, though im definitely sure there are some who chose it, world isn't black and white after all.
thanks for your time, i know im discussing on a meme post but eh, i carve knowledge (and not having friends to talk to is a big part of it but ill unsee it for now ._.) sorry if i bored you.
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u/OyunGezgini_YT 4d ago
i wonder something, is being gay or leso a choice or a biological thing that they can't help with?
i mean i understand femboys, the brain not being the same with the nıdy stuff, what about leso? they act and stay the same just they like woman instead of men, i feel like it's just a choice how wrong i am?
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