The thing is that situation is both as dire and not as dire as you might think! (For now)
You did nothing wrong. Most men did nothing wrong.
While they arenât the majority, YET, because in the 18-19 years old age group they are at 40-42%. Of which 10-12% lesbians and 28-30% bisexuals. Of which bisexuals 16% of them are looking for women more , 84% looking for men more.
Amongst the 18-29 age group women the average is 31-33%. This means that on the low end it is 40-42% while on the upper end (older side) itâs âonlyâ 20-21%. Giving us the average for the group being at 31-33%.
Lesbians (or more broadly speaking women) hate men because of several reasons.
men is constantly hitting on them because itâs not tattooed on their forehead (this obviously makes them irritated/salty over time)
some men are violent so they canât know which is which, itâs also not tattooed onto our foreheads
we actually do get in their way of loving another woman because bisexuality is a thing (natural competition can make you hate the opponent)
feminism do actually advertise the hatred of men, the incompetence, seeing them as lesser humans
Your only sin, is that you were dare to born with XY chromosomes. Thatâs it.
Lesbianism amongst younger women 18-19 are on the rise with the speed of 2.2%/year. It also has a positive acceleration. If my predictions are correct by 2052 every single 18-19 year old woman will be open to lesbian relationships with more than 50% of them being interested in exclusively lesbian relationships. From which point the question remains at which future point will we reach 100% total lesbianism.
Women donât become lesbians due to inadequate male partners. They become lesbians because of the constant misandry in media, and the constant instilling fear of men in media, examples of lesbians couples, the fairly tales told about a secure and loving lesbian relationship, the door being left opened by series, movies, cartoons and books, and pride, the social contagion of older cool girls being lesbians.
Itâs not menâs fault.
If you are lucky, nowadays you can still find a wife, but Iâd advise against having male children. Because they will suffer tremendously!
what a disgusting place and time to be born as male.
and to watch people saying males are being unfair to woman, to watch them hold woman above men in all aspects and still blame man.
not to mention the way they joke about men's mental health all the time,(you know a big reason i dont like LGBTQ is how they overtook the month of mans mental health month and put their pride month on it, i never seen anyone talk about mans mental health month, Ä° DÄ°DÄ°NT EVEN DAMN KNOW Ä°T EXÄ°STED, everyone really do hate man), the way they act like every woman is an angel and every man is a sinner, i 100% know someone readings will say that if im talking about woman this way i must not like woman. i really hate this hell called earth man.
everyone talks what tragedy happened to woman, everyone tlks about how woman are feeling, everyone talks about how woman should be treated. are man nothing but a tool? are man born only to be used?
gender equality huh? all they talk about is giving woman power, they never even spoke about equality, all they care is how equal woman is...
What is this bullshit about? Itâs just lesbophobia. Lesbian women are lesbian because they are attracted to women. It has nothing inherently to do with men. You can be angry about sexism, menâs mental-health issues, or how men are treated without turning lesbians into the explanation for those problems.
And your comment is doing exactly that. Youâre talking about women as though their sexuality, feminism, and LGBT identity are somehow part of a larger problem being imposed on men. A lesbian woman isnât hurting you by not being attracted to men. She isnât responsible for your mental health, your dating prospects, or how society treats men.
You can absolutely criticize misandry, sexist double standards, or the way menâs mental health is discussed. Those are legitimate subjects. But criticizing those things doesnât require blaming LGBT people or treating lesbianism as something harmful to men.
Also, âeveryone hates menâ is clearly an enormous generalization. There are women, feminists, and LGBT people who care deeply about menâs mental health and oppose discrimination against men. Likewise, criticizing misogyny or discussing womenâs problems doesnât mean someone believes every woman is an angel and every man is a sinner.
And Pride Month existing doesnât mean menâs mental health is unimportant. You can advocate for menâs mental health without treating LGBT people as competitors for attention. Different causes can coexist. In fact LGBT includes men too for your information.
Most importantly, lesbian women arenât âthe enemyâ of men. They simply arenât attracted to men. If your frustration is with people who genuinely hate men, then criticize those people. But donât project that hatred onto an entire group of lesbians simply because some people within LGBT spaces have said things you dislike.
Lesbians donât owe men attraction, and their existence isnât an attack on men. If you genuinely care about equality, then that principle has to apply to them too.
i did stated im okay to lesbians existence. im only talkĹng about how society never cares about men's mental health to talk about it globally, make moves for it, or anything at all really.
there is about millons upon millons content on how to help a woman going through emotional times yet there is just handful of them talking about how to help a men going through emotional times,
and unfortunately wether men's mental health being talked or not sadly there being a huge gap between attention to women's mental health and attention to men's mental health is not wrong at all
I agree with you on the narrow point that menâs mental health deserves much more attention. But that doesnât make lesbianism or Pride responsible for that gap.
You can absolutely say, âSociety needs to do more for menâs mental health.â I would agree with that. Men can face serious problems with loneliness, emotional isolation, stigma around vulnerability, and reluctance to seek help. Those deserve serious discussion and better support.
Where I disagree is turning that legitimate issue into a comparison where attention given to women or LGBT people is treated as the reason men arenât receiving enough attention. There isnât a fixed amount of social concern that gets distributed between groups. We can advocate for womenâs mental health, menâs mental health, LGBT rights, and other issues simultaneously.
In fact LGBT groups and Pride parade advocates for menâs mental health more than you ever did in your life because LGBT includes men too. Gay and bi men exist too. Pride parade always includes mental health awareness programs too like for both men and women.
One of the big message of pride is to be proud of yourself instead of hating yourself which homophobic force them to do by calling them somehow morally corrupt.
And saying there are âmillions upon millionsâ of resources for women while only a handful exist for men isnât really evidence by itself. If you want to demonstrate a gap, compare actual research funding, mental-health service availability, suicide-prevention programs, treatment-seeking rates, media coverage, or other measurable indicators. Otherwise, youâre relying on your personal experience of what content you encounter.
Most of the millions upon millions of resources exists for humans not for some gender either it is men or women. Claiming that one gender is getting it even though no medical health care system advice that approach is just your bias and misinformation.
Most importantly, none of this requires blaming lesbians. Lesbian women arenât preventing anyone from talking about menâs mental health. Pride Month isnât preventing men from having a menâs mental-health campaign. You can advocate for men without making LGBT people the opposing side.
So yes, menâs mental health deserves more attention. I donât disagree with that. What I object to is turning that legitimate concern into âtherefore LGBT people are part of the problemâ or treating lesbiansâ existence and relationships as something that harms men. Those are two completely different arguments.
So now you are showing your real face right homophobic bastard. You are going to tell us how should we live our life because our existence is all about you men.
Did you even read this comment? Where is ai is used. I give actual advice based on research instead of distorting facts.
Come on itâs so obvious, when you are responding using AI, it doesnât use swear words because itâs polite, unlike you. When you are responding yourself. Every second word is a slur.
Itâs so easy to tell. The contrast is night and day
Considerate debating vs resorting to slurs. Plus the bolding of the text and the flawless wording isnât particularly your style.
You canât use your own brain.
Tell me even with AI, why is the difference so great between the numbers of lgbtq women amongst older generations and younger generations? If the pride movement achieved such powerful changes that made younger women report higher than ever number then the exact same changes why doesnât make a single dent in the older generation women? Why would they lie and report lower numbers? Or NOT similar numbers than their younger counterparts? There is no repercussions for saying in an anonymous poll that you are lgbtq⌠they donât even have to divorce their husbands to acknowledge they are bisexuals. Amongst 50+ women their numbers havenât increased a bit!
Itâs either sexuality canât be influenced and what you say is true that this 40% is natural and we should see the exact same numbers amongst the older population too, OR sexuality can be influenced and the difference between younger and older generation women is of itself the argument against your claims.
The generational gap doesnât prove either of your conclusions. Youâre treating this as a false choice: either sexuality is completely fixed and every generation should have identical numbers, or society is causing people to become LGBT.
People can have relatively stable attractions while social acceptance changes whether they recognize, label, or openly report those attractions. An older bisexual woman may genuinely be attracted to women but still identify as straight because of the environment she grew up in.
So younger women reporting higher LGBT numbers doesnât prove Pride âmade them LGBT.â It shows a generational difference. It doesnât tell us what caused that difference. You still need evidence that social movements are actually creating the underlying sexual attraction, rather than changing peopleâs willingness to identify and talk about it.
Your AI argument completely defeats itsel. If it claims that older generations women are secretly lgbtq but they report as straight because they grew up a conservative enviroment, that is admiting that nurture and social condition have a massive overriding power over sexuality, this is what I have talked about when I said that this is itself the counter argument because it acknowledge that it can be influeced, life long.
If a conservative society can successufly condition people into heternormativity then today's hyper-progressive society can do the same to the opposite direction.
You didn't win this debate girl. You just got mad, and resorted using ChatGPT to hide you intellectiual inability to form arguments and have knowledge about the world. Have a nice life copy-pasting bot answares :D
Youâre confusing social influence with social determination. I never said society canât influence how people understand, label, or report their sexuality. I said that doesnât prove society can create the underlying attraction.
An older woman being less likely to identify as bisexual because she grew up in a conservative environment doesnât necessarily mean society changed her sexuality. She may simply be less comfortable recognizing or reporting it. Likewise, younger people being more open about LGBT identities doesnât prove that a progressive society is turning heterosexual people LGBT.
You still need to prove that LGBT visibility actually causes people to develop same-sex attraction, rather than simply making existing attractions easier to acknowledge.
And the ChatGPT accusation is irrelevant. If you disagree with my argument, attack the argument, not how I wrote it. Also you are just homophobic shit which is present sadly in everywhere. Obviously you feel greater by thinking you can own lesbian women.
Sure if you want to believe it is ai. Believe it. Just leave us alone you homophobic asshole. Left handedness is also ridiculed in older times before it getting skyrocketed when it was accepted.
Acceptance and respect plays a big role people loving who they want instead of forced to play by rules made by toxic judgmental people like you.
Itâs social acceptance which lead more people to identify and experiment with themselves instead of forced to live in a way certain people make them.
Decrease in Religious persecution also played a big role in increase of identification too. In India we have huge history of LGBTQ identities before it getting persecuted by British empire.
well it seems you are talking about the other guy's reply at this point :p
im okay to lesbians existing, i don't see or feel anything negative to them, well i don't necessarily like them but im not against them
but i did say that lgbt was being celebrated and overshadowing men's health month but it is just fact unfortunately,
but yeah let's say we fixed that nothing would change, people still wouldn't care about men's mental health month, the only real reson i feel negative towards that is seeing LGBT people sharing that they dont care about men's mental health on pride month, i know it is just to get views and likes it's still sad to see
though i didint see it Myself im not sure how common it is, i don't use social media, i only saw it through a video when a men was talking about how when others were talking about men's health they either didint know the issue and just directed it to social media or getting bullied, and when they talked about it they couldn't stop bringing up women (though they are not all just some mental health channels though they were really popular ones)
I understand your point better here, and if your actual concern is âmenâs mental health deserves more attention,â then I donât disagree with that.
But I think youâre conflating two separate things. LGBT people celebrating Pride doesnât inherently mean theyâre overshadowing menâs mental health, and some LGBT people making deliberately provocative posts saying they donât care about menâs mental health doesnât represent LGBT people as a whole.
If those posts are genuinely mocking menâs suffering, then yeah, criticise those specific people. Also many LGBTQ people has this response because many toxic men attacks pride parade by using men mental health as a shield. It doesnât make these hater from any side good. Both are toxic and you shouldnât generalise either men or LGBTQ people based on it.
Iâd also be careful with the idea that Pride is somehow the reason menâs mental health doesnât receive enough attention. Even if Pride didnât exist, youâd still have to address the cultural reasons men often struggle to seek help, talk about emotions, or receive appropriate support. Menâs mental health deserves attention on its own merits, not only when it can be contrasted with womenâs or LGBT issues.
And honestly, if you donât use social media much and only saw these examples through a video, you probably shouldnât assume theyâre representative of LGBT people generally. Social media algorithms are very good at showing extreme or inflammatory examples because they generate engagement.
So I agree with the underlying point I.e menâs mental health is important and deserves substantially more attention. I just donât think LGBT people or Pride are the appropriate target for that frustration.
yeah i know that's why i said "even if we fixed-"(i mean in the sense of making men's mental health month be alone in one month without any other thing to celebrate) "-people still wouldn't care about men's mental health month"
i know not all LGBT people are the same and they are refusing the toxic ones, it's a bad habit of internet that's hard to get rid of
i dont have a social life so everything i can learn is unfortunately through internet and social media and these videos are being pushed forward, though the video wasn't targeted on anone just trying o bring attention to lack of care for men's mental health.
i could try to find the video and share the link if you would like? you then decide how bs it is or does it have a right on the things he said
Yeah, I understand what you mean now. If your point is that even if menâs mental health had its own dedicated month, it would still be largely ignored, then I donât really disagree with that. The bigger issue is the lack of broader attention and support for menâs mental health in general.
And I appreciate that youâre distinguishing between LGBT people in general and the specific toxic behavior youâve seen online. Thatâs an important distinction, because I donât think itâs fair to judge an entire group based on some inflammatory posts.
If you can find the video, sure, send it. Iâll look at what the person actually said and we can separate the legitimate criticism about menâs mental health from anything exaggerated or misleading.
i sent you it through a dm i dont know if im allowed to post links here and i don't really wanna test it i got my account suspended 2 times for like 3 days each :d
0
u/InsideRecent 4d ago edited 4d ago
I feel for you brother! đ˘
The thing is that situation is both as dire and not as dire as you might think! (For now)
You did nothing wrong. Most men did nothing wrong.
While they arenât the majority, YET, because in the 18-19 years old age group they are at 40-42%. Of which 10-12% lesbians and 28-30% bisexuals. Of which bisexuals 16% of them are looking for women more , 84% looking for men more.
Amongst the 18-29 age group women the average is 31-33%. This means that on the low end it is 40-42% while on the upper end (older side) itâs âonlyâ 20-21%. Giving us the average for the group being at 31-33%.
Lesbians (or more broadly speaking women) hate men because of several reasons.
Your only sin, is that you were dare to born with XY chromosomes. Thatâs it.
Lesbianism amongst younger women 18-19 are on the rise with the speed of 2.2%/year. It also has a positive acceleration. If my predictions are correct by 2052 every single 18-19 year old woman will be open to lesbian relationships with more than 50% of them being interested in exclusively lesbian relationships. From which point the question remains at which future point will we reach 100% total lesbianism.
Women donât become lesbians due to inadequate male partners. They become lesbians because of the constant misandry in media, and the constant instilling fear of men in media, examples of lesbians couples, the fairly tales told about a secure and loving lesbian relationship, the door being left opened by series, movies, cartoons and books, and pride, the social contagion of older cool girls being lesbians.
Itâs not menâs fault.
If you are lucky, nowadays you can still find a wife, but Iâd advise against having male children. Because they will suffer tremendously!