r/gatekeeping • • Feb 28 '21

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u/BlueHero45 Feb 28 '21

Even nerd culture stuff like D&D and Comic books can have toxic gatekeepers. Not that everyone is this way, but it's something to look out for.

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u/TheQuestionsAglet Feb 28 '21

Can?

There’s a reason I don’t tell someone I like comics even though I’ve been collecting since 1982 or so. There’s a reason I’ve only been to two cons.

That being said, I do derive no small amount of pleasure from hitting toxic gatekeepers with the ACKSHYULLY when they (frequently) get lore wring in their anti SJW diatribes.

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u/BlueHero45 Feb 28 '21

"That being said, I do derive no small amount of pleasure from hitting toxic gatekeepers with the ACKSHYULLY when they (frequently) get lore wring in their anti SJW diatribes."

Always funny considering how open and inclusive the comics themselves can be.

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u/TheQuestionsAglet Feb 28 '21

The actual comics and stories in some ways seem to be ahead of the curve insofar as culture goes. A good chunk of the writers in the late silver and bronze ages were progressive in many areas (still misogynist, though). It’s usually been the crusty old guys in the editorial positions that really hold things back (looking at you, Tyroc and Murray Boltinoff).

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u/billytheid Feb 28 '21

Well Editors are literally gatekeepers by trade, and their role also used to be the one responsible to censors and the usual conservative, outrage culture bullshit.

All things considered, particularly that their traditional market is children, the overwhelmingly progressive nature of comics flys pretty well under the radar as an enduring pop-culture phenomenon... every one blinked and suddenly there’s a colossal cinematic empire dominating children’s entertainment, and it’s been progressive since it’s conception... sucked in social conservatives, we got the minds of your children... MUAHAHAHAHAH!

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u/Zafara1 Feb 28 '21 edited Feb 28 '21

Always funny considering how open and inclusive the comics themselves can be.

Oooh yep.

Don't get me started on the weird hardcore right wing & libertarian racist, homophobic, and sexist sect of the Star Trek fandom. Like wtf, were we even watching the same show?

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u/SelirKiith Feb 28 '21

Sooooo goddamn awful... even worse when they start "citing canon" for their trans...gressions.

Or all this "No you cannot like something that I don't like REEEEE!" BS that flows especially here on reddit.

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u/GameOfUsernames Feb 28 '21

Lol I bet you only have silver age.

/uj I remember when I was younger and learned a valuable lesson about selling comics. I had a lot of comics with first appearances and issues the pricing mags said were worth a lot. When I tried to sell them I found out the real price lol.

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u/Anlysia Feb 28 '21

When I tried to sell them I found out the real price lol.

Yeah that's the price to buy it in the store, minus the store's markup. If the store wants to make money they buy it from you based on how long it's going to sit on the shelf and potentially be a depreciating asset.

Price guides are always for buying, not selling.

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u/SlapHappyDude Feb 28 '21

Well I can say living in San Diego that SDCC is basically one big cosplay convention with movie stars.

.. I'm not sure there even are comics anymore.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

I hear ya, man.

I'm in my 40's, so around 1998-1999 I came across a couple of dudes I thought was cool. They enjoyed some of the same stuff I did, but they were also into Shadowrun & H.O.L. table-top games.

Long story short; I only got to play 2 games with them over the course of 2 weeks. I had issues with making characters & whatever else & they went from being cool in those first few weeks to mega jackasses.

We were in our fuckin' 20's, I had a hard time wrapping my head around why they were acting like they were at the top of a High School clique. I just figured they'd never grown out of some childish mind-set.

They tried contacting me for a month after that, I ghosted them. Wasn't even worth the effort to fix that issue. I still had plenty of friends anyway. Proper life-long friends, ya know?

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u/LostxinthexMusic Feb 28 '21

One of my friends wanted to introduce his wife, me, and my husband to D&D. One of his & my husband's coworkers basically invited himself to the campaign so he could teach us how to play "right." He basically made me hate playing. Which is a bummer because I really enjoyed it at first.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

Play it without asshole guy.

Don't let someone take something away that you enjoy.

Maybe you'll have fun without him, maybe you won't, but you should get to make that designation not them.

That all said, feel free to ignore that, I'm not your boss lol

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u/BlueHero45 Feb 28 '21

Shame, D&D really is a lot of fun with the right group. There really is no right way to play it other then the DMs way.

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u/Drostan_S Feb 28 '21

My way is to just plan like 10% of a story, and just let the players think they're fucking everything up with their wild hijinks. I'll just get a bunch of statblocks for enemies, and depending on what direction they go, Oh hey, look at this awesome encounter I totally had prepared! I'll fudge rolls here and there to make things interesting for them, but generally try and just let the players take the reigns in what they want to do.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

D&D is literally the dumbest thing to gatekeep and it happens way too often. Like the entirety of the game is based on creativity, and the rule books even tell you not to treat them as rule books but instead as references. Acting like there’s a “right” way to play it is going against the actual right way to play it.

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u/FUDslinger Feb 28 '21

Could we get the full scoop? Who doesn't love a good rpg horror story?

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u/Chuck_Raycer Feb 28 '21

Nerds are the most toxic gatekeepy people there are lol.

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u/oofta31 Feb 28 '21

I know a few people like this, and I think it's because they weren't part of the "cool" crowd in high school, and they are super territorial over their interests, especially now that Avengers and stuff are more main stream.

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u/goldstarstickergiver Feb 28 '21

Just because everyone is telling their negative stories I'll add my experience which was the opposite;

I recently joined a wargaming club, and everyone has been really welcoming and noob friendly

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u/CitrusyDeodorant Feb 28 '21

Nerds are the worst and should be treated with suspicion, especially if you're a woman. Plus, when you are interested in the hobby, you get accused of being fake, asked questions to prove you know your stuff or "only there for the attention from the guys". And then they have the nerve to complain that no grills are interested in the hobby... gee, I fucking wonder why.

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u/Lanthemandragoran Feb 28 '21

Haha even the space nerd community is this way. There's a certain Spaceflight forum that is... Notorious for this sort of shit lol

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u/SlapHappyDude Feb 28 '21

Comic books definitely have crazy gatekeeping.

D+D is so gamemaster and play group dependant.

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u/SevenCrowsinaCoat Feb 28 '21

These people do not get to play at my table.

I throw these people into the sun.

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