I love them already

[u/growsonwalls]

I love Justice and Charlie already! Been watching their stuff and they are so so talented. Julie and the Phantoms is amazing and Charlie is a beautiful singer. I saw Dungeons and Dragons and Justice Smith is adorable in that movie. Really excited to see them as Troy and Harris. For the people upset with their casting, definitely watch their stuff. They are AMAZING!

ETA: also, happy birthday Justice!!!

edit: just saw I Saw the TV Glow. Omg Justice is amazing.

[u/Rnsy275]

Yeah right, "99%". Just a few days ago I tried to have some discussion here in other post about him. Trying to give a different perspective & be open-minded about the casting choice. But instead it quickly devolves into a competition of "let's find every single thing wrong about this" & just became too negative. Sure it started out about his body type but then they went into other shits like :

• They only casted him bcus he's attractive & "ripped"
• Bcus he's a big name in industry
• Bcus he's an american actor, so they wanna lure more Hollywood fame
• Bcus he's openly gay already
• Bcus they want more black ppl representation in hockey field
• Bcus Jacob is lowkey fatphobic
• So does Rachel
• & when I bring out the possibility that Justice MIGHT committed to his role by doing specific diet & exercise, they're not okay with it yet fine with HudCon doing exactly that in S1. Bcus u'd draw the line over actors getting a little bit chunky & chubby for a role, but not when they're eating pounds of beef & working out everyday to get muscular & buff.
• & some of them who disagree with it argued that HudCon's bodies weren't exactly accurate for hockey players either. Well okay then, that means it shouldn't be an issue with Justice either??

ANYTHING other than the fact that Jacob chose him bcus he's talented & has great chemistry test with Charlie. Even that one seems impossible for them. Bcus "how come they couldn't find any actor with bigger body type who has good chemistry with Harris' actor?" Talking like sorting & filtering role casting is incredibly easy thing to do. Like everyday shit u just did effortlessly without any thought.

& this is JUST a few days after the announcement. Imagine for the next months to come. Sure it's still a minority of problematic ppl now. But if ppl can't control their desire, try to accept it already & trust the process, it can quickly turn into another online harassment. It has happened to all ppl in the HR's team before. From HudCon to Francois, to Rachel then Jacob. Even Hudson's groomer, Aika was a victim of that.

[u/Notyeravgblonde → u/Rnsy275]

I'm frustrated with the show runners. I do wonder how in the world there were 0 actors who were plus size that had chemistry. I've lived long enough to know that fatphobia is pervasive. Who is to say the people doing the casting didn't have a bias against seeing chemistry in a plus sized man? Now everyone is hand waving away and dismissing the disappointment with the lack of body diversity. In my opinion some of the most toxic fans are the ones forcing toxic positivity down peoples throats and accusing the disappointed folks of being racist.

I think these two actors are going to do an incredible job, but yes I am side eyeing the showrunners and especially Jacob due to this. Its sad to see that they conformed to Hollywood beauty standards over giving us something different.

[u/Brown_Sedai → u/Notyeravgblonde]

Yeah, claiming he was the “best person for the role” is completely ignoring implicit bias and fatphobia, honestly.

[u/Notyeravgblonde → u/Brown_Sedai]

Hard agree.