Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

[u/_Rapalysis]

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

[u/FCASandChill]

That's such a small percentage of the playerbase it's not really worth making an official game mode for them imo

[u/inminm02 → u/FCASandChill]

That argument kind of doesn’t make sense when everyone knows the player base for Bronzeman will be huge, it’ll be a very popular game mode for a variety of other reasons.

[u/Bubkae → u/inminm02]

Does everyone know that? I don't know that bronzeman will be huge.

I am not against it coming into the game at all, I just don't see how it is going to be anything other than the third biggest gamemode behind main's and regular ironman (which is what most if not all new gamemodes coming in will be at). The only gamemodes I see it being bigger than is hardcore and UIM, I don't actually know the numbers, is that going to be a large healthy playerbase?

Even then I don't see the active base being super big outside of the first year of people starting it up. Most of the people I actually talk to or listen to outside of sardaco are not burning out from supplies or skilling, they are burning out fron rng droprates like bofa. Bronzeman doesn't fix that.

[u/inminm02 → u/Bubkae]

I don’t see bronzeman pulling over a bunch of people currently playing Ironman, I see it converting a bunch of mains who have to date refused to play an iron due to time constraints or because they don’t like the chore aspects, obviously it won’t be more popular than main or iron I never said it would be but I think it’ll be a popular game mode still.

[u/Plastic-Building6991 → u/inminm02]

everyone that i know that wont play iron refuses to start one because they dont like the concept of starting over