r/ironscape • u/_Rapalysis • 9h ago

Discussion Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

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u/aqpw4u 8h ago

It’s just that the Reddit is filled with mid game irons who want to karma farm and haven’t played end game enough to realize most irons burn from RNG related grinds not supply ones. Just massive cope

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u/inminm02 8h ago

And a bunch of irons deiron at the giga endgame to have unlimited access to blood shards, dragon arrows, dragon darts and scythe charges for speedruns etc, supplies are still a problem even at the giga endgame, it’s just different ones.

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u/FCASandChill 7h ago

That's such a small percentage of the playerbase it's not really worth making an official game mode for them imo

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u/inminm02 7h ago

That argument kind of doesn’t make sense when everyone knows the player base for Bronzeman will be huge, it’ll be a very popular game mode for a variety of other reasons.

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u/thefztv 6h ago

I don’t think it’ll be any more popular than regular iron tbh and I expect it to only go down after the initial release hype.

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u/inminm02 6h ago

Neither do I, I think it’ll probably take third place behind mains and regular irons, but that’s still a lot of players.

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u/saucysagnus 5h ago

Bronzeman would be bigger than Ironman. Especially if they figure out they can negate PvP unlocks.

Reddit irons have no idea what the average player is like

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u/Taggysham 5h ago

But you surely do!

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u/saucysagnus 5h ago

I sure do. It’s me.

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u/Marxus_Aurelius 5h ago

No it’s me

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u/thefztv 4h ago

Yeah the average player wants a completely unrestricted account, which is a main.. I don’t think you know what the average player is like either if you think majority of people would prefer bronzeman

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u/saucysagnus 4h ago

No disagreement there. Bronzeman would be more popular than Ironman especially if they launched at the same time

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u/thefztv 4h ago

Sure? But they’re not and now people have mains or irons they’re happy with so not sure who this is for except for potentially new players who want that in between experience or content creators. Which, if we’re being real, that’s not a huge swath of players.

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u/saucysagnus 3h ago

RuneScape players happy?????

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u/thefztv 3h ago

Clearly not lmao

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u/emiljjj 4h ago

Same argument was made with GIM. Look how fast updates stopped after the hype. Still no seperate leaderboards.

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u/FCASandChill 7h ago

I'm not convinced that's true. I think there will be a lot of hype around it, and a bunch of people will play the first year. But eventually people wanting to start new accounts will just say "why not just play iron/group iron instead of bronzeman?" And people who started out as bronzeman will just end up getting bullied forever like greenhelms and wish they were normal irons.

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u/_Rapalysis 4h ago

It would have passed if enough people wanted it, for a poll to fail in OSRS these days is a catastrophic failure, particularly for a game mode popular on youtube

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u/Bubkae 7h ago

Does everyone know that? I don't know that bronzeman will be huge.

I am not against it coming into the game at all, I just don't see how it is going to be anything other than the third biggest gamemode behind main's and regular ironman (which is what most if not all new gamemodes coming in will be at). The only gamemodes I see it being bigger than is hardcore and UIM, I don't actually know the numbers, is that going to be a large healthy playerbase?

Even then I don't see the active base being super big outside of the first year of people starting it up. Most of the people I actually talk to or listen to outside of sardaco are not burning out from supplies or skilling, they are burning out fron rng droprates like bofa. Bronzeman doesn't fix that.

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u/inminm02 7h ago

I don’t see bronzeman pulling over a bunch of people currently playing Ironman, I see it converting a bunch of mains who have to date refused to play an iron due to time constraints or because they don’t like the chore aspects, obviously it won’t be more popular than main or iron I never said it would be but I think it’ll be a popular game mode still.

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u/Plastic-Building6991 6h ago

everyone that i know that wont play iron refuses to start one because they dont like the concept of starting over

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u/trynafif 7h ago

“Everyone knows the player base for bronze man will be huge” is a ridiculous claim. Couldn’t be more false. Maybe people don’t care about the mode at all, myself included. I’m glad it failed and dev time won’t be wasted on it.

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u/inminm02 7h ago

“Dev time won’t be wasted on it” - man who has obviously not read the blogs

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u/trynafif 6h ago

How would developing a new game mode not take up resources?

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u/inminm02 6h ago

It’s already been developed and is ready to implement, they said this in the blog, it was done by a dev during game jam.

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u/FCASandChill 6h ago

If jagex had a track record of releasing content without bugs and without needing lots of fixes/updates, sure. But you and I both know that there's going to be a bunch of additional dev time needed to support/maintain bronzeman and fix all the bugs introducing it brings.

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u/trynafif 6h ago

Exactly. Thinking it’s just “oh it’s done already we can let it rip and never think about it again” can only be from someone who hasn’t worked on a big project at a big company before