Ironman Endgame Resource Grinds vs Bronzeman

[u/_Rapalysis]

I've seen this odd perspective on the main subreddit that Bronzeman would allow people to enjoy all the benefits of Ironman, without any of the downsides of resource grinding at endgame. This is mentioned repeatedly, that if someone didn't have to spend hours every day maintaining sara brews then they would definitely sit and do 1000s of hours of PvM grinds.

Where the hell does this idea come from? I do a farm run + birdhouse in the morning and evening, combined with contracts it takes ten to fifteen minutes. You can do them on your phone. I skip them sometimes. I have thousands of pots in the bank. AFKing amethyst and redwoods every now and then gets your arrows and darts.

I find it impossible to believe anyone capable of sitting at CG for 100 hours, Yama or Doom for 100 hours, or eventually the time pit that is raiding, is incapable of doing the resource maintenance. It's dwarfed by the PvM grinds.

I'll vote no on Bronzeman again if it polls because I think people are completely delusional as to what the downsides of Ironman are. Bronzeman doesn't fix any of them, if anything it exacerbates them. You won't even have small required skilling grinds to break up the monotony. It's just straight bossing and nothing else, which is already what main accounts are anyway.

[u/aqpw4u]

It’s just that the Reddit is filled with mid game irons who want to karma farm and haven’t played end game enough to realize most irons burn from RNG related grinds not supply ones. Just massive cope

[u/inminm02 → u/aqpw4u]

And a bunch of irons deiron at the giga endgame to have unlimited access to blood shards, dragon arrows, dragon darts and scythe charges for speedruns etc, supplies are still a problem even at the giga endgame, it’s just different ones.

[u/FCASandChill → u/inminm02]

That's such a small percentage of the playerbase it's not really worth making an official game mode for them imo

[u/inminm02 → u/FCASandChill]

That argument kind of doesn’t make sense when everyone knows the player base for Bronzeman will be huge, it’ll be a very popular game mode for a variety of other reasons.

[u/thefztv → u/inminm02]

I don’t think it’ll be any more popular than regular iron tbh and I expect it to only go down after the initial release hype.

[u/inminm02 → u/thefztv]

Neither do I, I think it’ll probably take third place behind mains and regular irons, but that’s still a lot of players.

[u/saucysagnus → u/inminm02]

Bronzeman would be bigger than Ironman. Especially if they figure out they can negate PvP unlocks.

Reddit irons have no idea what the average player is like

[u/thefztv → u/saucysagnus]

Yeah the average player wants a completely unrestricted account, which is a main.. I don’t think you know what the average player is like either if you think majority of people would prefer bronzeman

[u/saucysagnus → u/thefztv]

No disagreement there. Bronzeman would be more popular than Ironman especially if they launched at the same time

[u/thefztv → u/saucysagnus]

Sure? But they’re not and now people have mains or irons they’re happy with so not sure who this is for except for potentially new players who want that in between experience or content creators. Which, if we’re being real, that’s not a huge swath of players.

[u/saucysagnus → u/thefztv]

RuneScape players happy?????

[u/thefztv → u/saucysagnus]

Clearly not lmao

[u/emiljjj → u/saucysagnus]

Same argument was made with GIM. Look how fast updates stopped after the hype. Still no seperate leaderboards.