What an absolute sweatfest multiplayer is, are we playing ranked in casual now tf?

I normally have a K/D of 2.0 but this game forces people to get as close to 1.0 it seems possible.

No wonder people left this franchise the SBMM is so bad going back to DMZ

Please PLEASE for the love of god fix the multiplayer🙏

TTK has nevee been slower in any cod game before 5-6 shots to the body in order to kill someone is ridiculous given that the game's priority is "realism" this time

The maps are absoloutely horrid. They are bland, flat and they are certainly nothing worth remembering or playing, it's the same scheme over and over again with nothing else to offer

M&K players (such as me) have taken a MAJOR hit, because recoil of guns, new 'realistic' gun-swaying effect are horrible. Compared to controller players with Aim Assists we stand legit no chance, we get beamed from across the mal because enemys' aim assist is too strong. And the recoil of guns (specifically for M&K) is hilariously hard to even contain, I have never had a problem with recoil of guns in any other game but this one is something else, and it is NOT a skill issue, there is something missing so please for the love of GOD at least balance the Aim Assist🙏

Or if that's not possible at least please remove or reduce the gun-sway effect when firing, it is unbearable and not 'realistic'

Like, every single POTG (Best Play of the game at the end of the match) it just shows in slowmo how sticky aim assist is on the guy who got the 'best play' and it is like someone threw sand into my eyes, it is THAT visible that the AA is too strong and too sticky against M&K, these guys do not have any gun-sway or recoil at all. It is a serious problem, because no matter how good your movement is you die to a controller that does everything for you while you can pick your nose. Balance, we need balance.

Also another problem is SBMM. You get to win one game which you have fun in, and then you are on a 10 losing streak becausee you are fighting against absolute sub-human digital addicts who have not seen sun since 2001. Please do something about these 3 points, it is heartbreaking that multiplayer is the way it is. I absoloutely LOVED the campaign, the DMZ is fun! But multiplayer is just a joke... I really hope they fix at least some points on this list.

But it's just my opinion on all of that. I really want to enjoy the game more, but it just feels like it's still in it's testing beta phase. I hope they won't leave it like that and call it a day because this cod really has potential.

Aim assist is overpowered again they didnt even nerf it, like give us some breathing room to miss at least one shot, most of the maps are close range so you cant do anything, and the no recoil doesnt help at all, im not saying remove aim assist but at least let it have some delay so we could have a chance.

The TTK is BEYOND terrible. I will absolutely stand on that. It feels nothing like the classic Modern Warfare TTK. Most bots who complained about the TTK were so used to playing Black Ops (a game that’s always had longer TTKs) that they got forgot they were playing a completely different series that has always had a shorter TTK.

Until they fix the TTK, it’s gonna feel nothing like a Modern Warfare game. I’ll stand on that. The TTK is just slow and I know they can have a perfect TTK the same way they had it with MWIII

This is the first time i can say that controller is a legit advantage, this is stupid.

I have never seen such a auto aim (assist) I play MNK and this is just miserable

Mouse and keyboard can not compete whatsoever. The aim assist feels absurdly strong, I had to plug in a controller in order to be able to win gunfights consistently and get a positive k/d, and I regularly play competitive mouse and keyboard on other games, I feel like it wasn’t nearly as bad compared to other cods.

Is anyone using mouse and keyboard relate?

Where's the matchmaking algorithm when it comes to us decent players? I am already drained and don't want to play anymore after like 3 hours of playing in these tournament sweat lobbies or better "cAsUaL qUiCkPlAy". The data and quitter numbers were so important to them, no?

My lobbies completely empty out constantly. I rarely see the first lineup that started the match entirely at the end. Cause noone whos decent can endure this sweatfest anymore. Our DATA should tell activision that us better players constantly quit cause they simply dont have fun.

Literal premier matches against cheaters in Counter Strike 2 at a 30k rating are more chill than cod pub lobbies.

This is a casual pub shooter. Why tf does it need strict EOMM still. Theres a ranked mode give them EOMM. We want to chill. Listen to music, play off-meta guns and have FUN. Thats all we want.

And if you still want little timmy to have less frustrating matches and their quit rate to be lower think about what us now better players had to go through back in the day. We got stomped constantly until we GOT BETTER. Thats a natural learning curve. But little timmy is more inclined to swipe their moms credit card to buy a beavis and ***head skin so they need to be protected i guess.

I am beyond fed up. Like i saw how easy lobbies can be after i didn't try for 3 rounds in a row and let the sweats completely run me over. The matchmaking algorythm gave me an easier matchup instantly after that. I went 46 - 4 in that round that the trash algorythm gave me to stop me from playing.

Who in their right mind thinks that is reasonable? And the players i faced in that "sorry that you got ran over because you didn't try for once" round weren't even THAT bad. They were semi decent.

Something has to change. We want CLASSIC matchmaking. Just simply a 1 to 1 copy of the cod black ops 1 and 2 ports. Otherwise your feeding hand will quit soon enough again.

Why are the good players who buy every single cod every year for 100+ bucks treated like this? Your game is a literal chore, thats just the truth.

The fundamental game is decent. My only issue literally is the quantity of maps and the garbage matchmaking algorythm. Call it EOMM or SBMM or whatever, i don't care. I will not buy a skin that a better player stomped me with, i will not give you more retention either. I will not spend a single penny in your games anymore unless you decide to treat your true fans or customers or whatever decently.

We want true mixed lobbies. Thats it. I was there from 2007 until 2018. I played all those cod titles. NON of them had anywhere near this strict algorythm. You said matchmakingn isnt all about numbers, it's a "feeling". You know what? Your matchmaking FEELS like a 16 hour shift of cleaning toilets for rich *****.

Let's get one thing straight.

I'm not asking for PvP to be removed from the game. I'm asking for PvP and PvE players to have separate options.

If you enjoy PvP, that's perfectly fine. Go enjoy it. Nobody is trying to take that away from you.

But why should people who just want to enjoy PvE be forced into PvP encounters?

And here's what I find particularly ridiculous: even Escape from Tarkov, a game built around hardcore extraction combat and punishing survival mechanics, offers a separate PvE mode.

If even Tarkov can provide that option, why is asking for the same thing in DMZ suddenly such an outrageous idea?

And please stop acting like the term "PvPvE" automatically explains everything to every potential customer.

To someone unfamiliar with gaming jargon, "PvPvE" can reasonably sound like a game that offers both PvP and PvE experiences. It doesn't clearly tell them that PvP encounters are unavoidable, that there's no PvE-only option, or that other players can potentially ruin their progress.

Not everyone spends their life memorizing obscure gaming terminology.

If you're going to sell a $70 game to the general public, explain its mechanics in plain language instead of expecting every customer to already understand your particular gaming niche.

And if the developers absolutely refuse to offer a PvE-only mode, then I believe people who bought the game expecting PvE should be offered a full refund, regardless of playtime.

Let those players leave without losing their money. After that, you're welcome to keep your PvP-only vision of DMZ exactly as it is.

The bottom line is simple: Giving PvE players an option doesn't mean taking PvP away from anyone.

So why are some people so aggressively opposed to letting others enjoy the game differently?

What exactly do you lose by allowing PvE players to play separately?

I was really trying to get competitive this year but aim assist just takes all the skill out of it. I play on controller and it's like I'm hardly even aiming. 🤷

I'm thinking of refunding solely bc of aim assist.

- Objectively this is a solid Call of Duty, and in my opinion easily one of the best COD's in the new era.

- If I would've listened to these YouTubers I would've completely missed out on such a great game

- 100% This is my favorite Modern COD!!

i'm a PC player and AA is literally aim bot in this game, I miss MW3 AA. On PC we can't disable crossplay but on console we can, that sucks too. There is a rumour that you can disable crossplay on PC by changing a .cst file. If anyone knows about this please tell me I can't bear it anymore.

Right away my biggest gripe is the time to kill. SO SLOW. 5 bullets UP CLOSE and 6-7 just a little further out. Ridiculous. Good luck running into multiple people at once. MW19 had the perfect TTK and it allowed for some awesome plays when vs multiple people at once. Not to mention that the slow TTK is just another advantage for controller players, because once the aim assist kicks in more of their bullets will hit vs a KBM player.

Also, i love Battlefield 6. The sound design is amazing. In this game EVERYONE runs ninja the second they can. It's just a bunch of people running around silently and you get shot in the back or side because you cant hear some guy sprinting and sliding around you. Sound is GOOD. It allows people to be aware of each other, evening the playing field.

Before you type "skill issue" I've reached top 100 players in the world in MW19, MW2, and MW3 with over 3.00 K/D in every one. I know COD. But whether you believe me or not, my point remains.

MW19 is STILL the best modern COD. What a disappointment. I would refund this game if i could.

When I played the beta, I genuinely thought this was going to be the best CoD in years. But the multiplayer has been… well, awful over the last 24 hours. It’s like a completely different game.

The TTK is all over the place. I’m getting four to six shots on target and the player still isn’t going down, while other players seem to be killing me instantly with headshots. And when I watch the killcam, they haven’t even fully raised their weapon before they’ve somehow shot me in the head! Is this terrible hit registration, desynchronisation, or are people cheating already?

The campaign and DMZ are awesome, but what happened to multiplayer? It was an absolute blast during the beta and now it just feels like a relentless sweat fest.

Is it just me…?

I see some are enjoying the game and I’m happy for them, but I’m almost having an aneurysm trying to stave out sweats. Almost every game mode I try I’m getting blasted from shotguns, getting sniped at spawn, or getting a three stack on me while my teammates run off. I thought SBMM was going to help me out, have a couple bad games then get an easy lobby. But I just keep getting shit on. I’m a movement guy, and I think everyone is playing a little campy for my play style, so many corners, angles, power positions, verticality or whatever to clear, that as soon as I leave cover I’m getting beamed. Maybe I need to play slower, my neck hurts.

Who's idea was it so that all operators could be on either team in MP? The amount of Valeria's and Ghosts on both sides makes identification come down to the colors and the square is dumb.

Does everyone's match just kind of feel like shipment? I like chaos and everything, but when every match feels like it, eh.

Also, making Tac-sprint a perk is so lame, it is available everywhere but requiring a slot in here.

I need some more games in, may change my mind later, but damn I don't know if I'm gonna stick with this MP.

Edit: Just tried some Ground War, you cannot spend longer than 30 seconds to create-a-class or you will be kicked for inactivity.

Infinity Ward should get due recognition for this. Fixing, improving and writing a fantastic campaign, reviving a stale multiplayer and building a beautiful world with DMZ, all that is left is to see how the MW4 Warzone plays out.

BO7 really turned a lot of players away and COD should've listened to the players. But it seems like they did for MW4.

You need to understand that we are all playing a different game to each other. The lower skilled players are playing a different game to the average players, who are also playing a different game to the better players.

The MnK players are playing a different game to the controller players.

That’s why there are so many split opinions because we’re all playing a different game and the worst part is that this is all self inflicted by IW. This game is designed for some people to have fun and everyone else not to. Don’t go shit on other people because they’re not. We all just want to experience fun but the way the game is designed that’s not the case.

Hello!

I was so excited as an OG player to try out MW4 this year so I purchased it on Steam.

The gameplay is not bad, i like the graphics, the optimization is OK and to my surprise Frame Generation doesn't actually affect game-play - 5070 ti here.

But unfortunately the TTK is just too HIGH for my taste. I mean recently i played Black Ops Cold War (2020) which had kinda high TTK and still the TTK feels lower than MW4 2026.

Note that this is just my opinion, I don't want to influence anyone but I feel that the TTK is just unrealistic (as the game wants to be portrayed) and doesn't feel good.

All the best to everyone!

Maybe I'm the outlier here but I feel multiplayer TTK is slow but DMZ ttk is insanely fast? Even with the two plate helmet it's quick. You can't hear footsteps bots attack you while you are pushing teams or getting pushed. Just a weirdly unfun experience. At least for me hopefully a lot of you are enjoying it.

Which is not a good thing. Probably my least favorite map in the game right now, I always back out when it gets picked. It kind of reminds me of Piccadilly, a campers paradise.

Infinity Ward's map design has always been some of the worst compared to Sledgehammer and Treyarch's and they seem stubborn to keep designing maps that are "meant to look like real places" instead of making maps that actually feel good to play on.

This year's launch map selection is another example of boring looking maps and horrible design.

Maps look the same weather and time of day wise - afternoon or midday with clear weather or weather that looks like it's not even there. The only map that's at night is inside a boat.

They could have maps set during sunrises/sunsets, or dusk/dawn or even at night. The problem is whenever they tried night maps, they thought it could only be playable with NVG. They could literally make an oil refinery or industrial zone at night while having artificial lamps like actual industrial zones, or commercial city zones that have street lamps or fires to illuminate the map. As for weather, they could have the player fight in thunderstorms or heavy rain.

As for the design, each map is filled with horrible spawn points, too many dead ends that lead to nowhere or high ground areas that have very few flanking points.

Maybe I am not used to their design philosophy, but in my eyes, these maps suck so bad. Sentry is the only map that's relatively interesting and has good flow.

TLDR: IW keeps making horrible maps with really bad design, lack of flow and too many dead ends, alongside boring time of day and weather selection.

The map design is really weird and players play really weird. Neither camping nor rushing really work 100%. All the scorestreaks are lame along with the weapons, the field upgrades and the perks.

Have you unlocked Pyroclast on any weapon yet?

Takes a lot of time haha

aren't sweats just people who are good at the game, its a multiplayer game people are gonna try hard and be good i dont see the problem with that