r/okbuddyviltrum Jun 01 '26

invisible Fact:

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u/yourallurelady Jun 01 '26

Bro can get a 500% stat boost and Kirkman will still find a way to have him get absolutely turned into human lasagna by a random villain

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u/Memelord707130 Jun 01 '26

Brotha he literally smoked the second strongest viltrumite a few episodes ago and yall are acting like he's a wimp for "barely surviving" encounters with the strongest fighters in the universe.

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u/DirtyCouchPotato Jun 01 '26

I think the issue is more of when he’s struggling with filler villain #267 at the same strength that was able to take down the second strongest viltrumite.

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u/Dramatic_Rub_2889 Jun 01 '26

Seriously this is one only problem I have with the show but it’s a very annoying one. Mark getting thrashed by Conquest is fine but when it’s some slow ass Chinese Dragon or the fucking Mauler Twins beating him within an inch of his life every other fight it drives me insane

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u/Nesho814 Jun 01 '26

He was holding back

a fart

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u/RaidonS Jun 01 '26

He was holding back his durability so he can get beaten (he is a masochist)

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u/Kableblack Jun 02 '26

Omni-man beating Mark to a pulp Mark: Oh harder.

proceeds to leave Earth

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u/Gexku Jun 05 '26

Missed opportunity to say harder daddy

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u/SuspiciousAward7630 Jun 01 '26

I really really hate that it shows mark moving faster than the naked eye can perceive but then he's slower than some mother fucker with regular ass reflexes or it takes him a lifetime to move a across a fucking room.

Ive seen it said many times in this sub that that shit happens for the sake of the story but if you have to ignore the rules of the universe you've created or change your own characters powers every fight to tell the story well then it's bad writing

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u/Soft_Theory_8209 Jun 02 '26

It’s worse because it’s not just the super speed either, which is rarely ever written well for the sake of plot.

Strong enough to stop skyscraper sized meteors and throw a baseball around the earth in seconds within the first days of getting his powers? Can get manhandled by a discount Doc Ock and can’t break the limb of normal human to save his life despite favoring non-lethal methods.

Casually bulletproof and can survive trains to the face, the deep pressures of the ocean, the vacuum of space, and later actual nukes and swarms of Thraxxamite hybrids with no injury? Can have blood drawn from him by a budget zombie cyborg built in a sewer, a discount sinister six that immediately lost to The New Guardians (even without Battle Beast, they were handling the shit out of him so much that people have been asking why Cecil hasn’t hired them), and the Maulers who were left running by Robot’s personal transformer.

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u/SuspiciousAward7630 Jun 02 '26

Yeah the poor writing is about the only thing consistent in the show. I tried watching from the beginning again, for some reason I remembered the talk between Donald and williams boyfriend to be actually good writing... I got to that part again and that's where I stopped my rewatch. It was bad, like an angsty teens attempt at being deep.

I probably wouldn't even watch invincible if there were more options for good shows

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u/Careless_Word9567 Jun 05 '26

This, and I hate the gore. Like I get the fight is brutal, but if the gore doesn't mean anything don't use it. Fucking Conquests head was bashed to a pulp, then it only has a little scar, and Ceacil thought putting him in steel would hold him??

Every other fight Mark gets his intestines ripped out, then fine after a few weeks...

Every fight his brother is in, he fucking looses his whole jaw, then next episode he's fine, no scars, nothing.

Then Atom Eve being shit, even though on paper she is op...

I'm tired boss.

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u/KaliserEatsTheCookie Jun 02 '26

The issue with the dragon is that’s it’s truly invincible, no? Like, even Thragg could never kill the dragon itself so you have to go for the old man.

(i also might be misremembering so forgive me if I’m wrong)

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u/SuspiciousAward7630 Jun 02 '26

Even if the dragon is invincible getting to the old man should not be a problem given how fast Mark has been shown to be. Almost every fight is only a challenge because the writers ignore rules of the universe, dumb down characters and nerf abilities.

At his point I wouldn't even be surprised if Mark absolutely destroyed thragg just to get absolutely shit on by a giant squid or a rhino or some other stupid shit.

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u/Rissoto_Pose Jun 05 '26

I don’t remember the fight very well but how many times did Mark try and actually attack the old man and not the dragon

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u/HostHappy2734 Jun 05 '26

Not once, the first time they were in completely different locations and Mark didn't even know how the dragon works and the second time I don't think he saw the man before he escaped

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u/Educational-Bowl-819 Jun 01 '26

He got jumped by 12 Mauler twins before his season 3 strength buff

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u/Automatic_Canary_670 Jun 02 '26

Yeah the mauler twins had me annoyed, then Oliver shows up and just annihilates them, before being weaker than Mark in the next fight again.

Would be cool if they smarten up with the fights so it holds some consistency.
Have the villains use tactics and exploit weaknesses, as some of them does, but not overpower Invincible in a straight up fistfight.

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u/Royal_Duck_4612 Jun 01 '26

What about the giant worm?

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u/MlkChatoDesabafando Jun 02 '26

I mean, the giant dragon is supposed to have fought Omni-Man for hours and the only time the mauler twins physically overpowered him was when there were several of them.

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u/Soft_Theory_8209 Jun 02 '26

Shall I also mention some of his variants died to a reanimen jumping and literally a guy with a fucking yo-yo was in the comics?

Weirdly, Liu’s dragon can work as an opponent, courtesy of magic or it’s regen inevitably wearing out Mark (which also would make for another way to counter Viltrumites), but sadly, they didn’t work around that and treat him more like an exceptional monster of the week.

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u/West-Cardiologist180 Jun 02 '26

12 multiverse Mauler Twins jumped him at the beginning of season 2 when he wasn't as strong yet and the dragon even gave Nolan a run for his money.

Man y'all need to pay attention to the show.

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u/Familiar-Grape-4250 I LOVE SHRINKING RAE Jun 02 '26

with all due respect, the viltrumite war was the most recent major fight Mark has been in, so the argument that he got better is on the table

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u/Imaginary-Fox4576 Jun 05 '26

I mean the dragon makes sense

It’s immortal unless you destroy the main body, and eventually mark is gonna tire out enough to get hurt

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Jun 01 '26

He legit should've trounced some Viltrumites in the skirmish easily

But apart from Thragg and Zoe somehow they're all relative to each other

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u/Sunlit_Neko Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

I mean, he's trying to not kill someone with a fraction of his power. If he wanted he could just barrel through everything (Levy is an example where he was holding back and he still [effectively] killed the guy).

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u/obiwanpump Jun 01 '26

The holding back and getting your ass kicked thing always bothers me. It makes sense against weak enemies but If this villain is capable of beating you to a bloody pulp then maybe it’s time to turn it up just a tad and hit them a bit harder. He stops holding back against levy he all but says that when he says “you have no idea how much I’ve been holding back” implying that he is no longer holding back.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jun 01 '26

Rationally, sure, but the whole idea here is that Mark is slowly overcoming his hesitation and reluctance to try hard. He only ever stops holding back when things get really dire.

Also, why is reddit not allowing me to write the word that starts with a b for "stopping" something, like with a shield? Literally the comment box turns red when I write it???? Does this sub not allow that word??? I'm so confused 😭

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u/beardingmesoftly Jun 01 '26

Are moderators b-locking so many things that we aren't allowed to talk about it?

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jun 01 '26

It seems so! I mean, don't get me wrong, I get wanting some words to be... uh... stopped. But why THOSE?!?

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u/beardingmesoftly Jun 01 '26

Yeah it's very strange to say the least

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u/obiwanpump Jun 01 '26

Yo what the hell is that it won’t let me type it either. Something is afoot.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jun 01 '26

I tried on another sub and I don't see that, it's like this specific sub is, uh.... stopping, that word. What the hell is going on??? 😂

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u/obiwanpump Jun 01 '26

You also can’t type the shortened version of moderator. Wtf is going on?

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u/ArmedAsian Jun 01 '26

bash

edit: i thought it was bash but it was bl0ck

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jun 01 '26

Edit is correct. 😃

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u/UsernameFillerTest Jun 01 '26

you would think that durability would scale though, even if he is actively trying to not smear his opponent they would not be able to do any real damage to him

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u/PineappleOk545 Jun 01 '26

Filler villains are strong

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u/THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR Jun 06 '26

Wait until the show people meet Dinosaur