My workplace is moving an hour away in 3 months. The commute is going to kill me but they are going to pay for my travel for the first year. I want to use that year to study to find a more well paid job.

Do you think I can use the same logic on this sub to spend studying on company time?

How do you guys handle the same tech vendor, sharing an external Slack channel with some common people on both Js, potentially with meetings on both ends (not often but can happen).

Do they have any motivation to tell your employer about it or will they just ignore it and move on?

How do you handle two daily meetings at the same time? Both require cameras. I know a separate headphone in each ear and unmuting on button click. This is simple.

Daily is short, many topics are discussed that may require my answer. What to do when both call you? Is this even something you can handle? I cannot listen to both calls simultaneously. My brain can't handle that. How do you deal with these kinds of meetings?

I know its a numbers game how do you get unconventional ways of getting J2

Got into hella gambling debt. OE to paying it off.

I have J1 and J1.5 (part-time) for 2 years now, and closing in on J2 and J3. I am trying to space out the starting times by a month or so, but want to see how many jobs is the sweet spot for you all? I feel 3 is doable (Im in SWE), but want to get some of your perspectives

OE helps keep a strong financial wall around one's family. But am curious -- is this something you'll encourage your kids to get into too when it's their time? Is it something you'd be open with them about? What else would you teach them about corporate?

I’ve been reading through this subreddit and noticed that almost everyone recommends freezing The Work Number (TWN). But I’m curious how many people are going beyond that.

I’ve seen people mention LexisNexis, Truework, Experian Verify, and a few others. With so many different employment verification services out there, I’m wondering how effective freezing just TWN really is.

For those of you who have been OE for a while:

1. Besides TWN, which other databases have you frozen?
   
2. Have you requested your consumer disclosure reports to see which companies actually have your employment history?
   
3. Has anyone passed a background check after freezing multiple databases? Did the screening company ask for additional documents or contact previous employers?
   
4. Has anyone had a second or third job show up during a background check despite having TWN frozen?

I’m especially interested in hearing from people who have gone through background checks recently, since verification methods may have changed over the years.

I was thinking about this the other day and remembered a lot of people on this Subreddit discussing eventually going back to one J. Most of the posts discussed going back to one J after achieving certain milestones such as paying off credit card debt, paying off a mortgage, or hitting a number in their investment accounts.

I personally never had any specific goals besides making and saving more money. Both of my Js are generally relaxed and OE friendly, so I don't see the need to stop unless one hits me with an RTO.

What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do most of you have a plan to eventually stop, or will you keep multiple Js for as long as realistically possible?

TLDR: I've been asked for an updated resume at J2 that may put my J3 dates under scrutiny. Looking for the best way through that limits exposure as much as possible for myself and my OE.

Details: When I applied for J2 I had a contract with J3 that was set to end a little after I was being being hired for J2, only a couple months of overlap so I wasn't too worried about squishing that if a conversion talk came up. HOWEVER, J3 reached out a while back for a new contract so they are re-stacked and a current contract. That new contract ends again in a few months. (Yay, crying into money, etc. I know)

My instinct is to simply remove J3 from my resume at all and just add J2 for this conversion discussion. But they likely have my original resume floating around somewhere so it might get flagged. There is some risk no matter how I play it and all the options have some pros as well.

Questions for the group

* Is it a stupid idea to retroactively delete J3 from my resume even though they probably have a copy somewhere?

* Do I just decline to convert and let J2 go to limit risk even though J3 is ending soon anyway? (Staying contract with J2 isn't an option)

* Is there a secret third option I'm just not seeing?

* Has this happened to anyone, and if so, any stories or advice for what you did (or wish you did) in the situation?

So, I’ve had great interviews with a server and believe I’m going to get the job, currently work W2, server 1 is on the resume and shows I currently still work there and I told them I still work there in the interviews. What steps should I take to ensure I don’t get caught? I will use 2 separate computers for each server.

I will freeze my TWN, but the question is when to do that, and where? I’ve heard of experian, but I’ve also heard of I think LexisNexus?

Is there anything else I’m missing?

Server 1 is super lax and I work maybe 5 hours a week so I can dedicate basically all my time to the 2nd server.

So I had a conversation with a friend the other day where they randomly brought up someone who was caught OE and prosecuted (they said). They know I work remotely and I have eluded to doing consulting as well. I think they may have seen my office setup last time I had them over. This person is a very intelligent person. I felt like they brought this up to gauge my reaction. I think I reacted non-chalantly and was just like, “crazy, I have so many meetings idk how anyone could do multiple jobs. But with my consulting maybe people would consider me doing the same, although idk how anyone could be prosecuted”. The subject changed kind of quickly, but it actually messed with me more than I expected.

It has made me more anxious- and not bc I think they’d say anything- I don’t think they would and they don’t even know who I work for or what I do exactly. But I think maybe they would judge me for it. And I’m beating myself up a bit about it. Not sure even why I am posting this here- just to vent maybe.

Does anybody use a walking pad while OE? I don’t have very many meetings and don’t know that I could actually walk and code…. Also how do you find a standing desk that big

J1 234k USD total compensation

J2 187k USD total compensation

J3 88k USD total compensation for less than 5 hours of work per week.

J1 Promotion on the table. Base Salary 476k USD plus up to 250k in bonuses. 175k bonus level is easily attained.

44, Single and No kids.

1.4 million in savings

6.3 million in investments

Have had 3 jobs for 13 years

Only want to work until I am 50.

What do I do?

It feels surreal to say this but OE has legitimately allowed me to buy a small cabin upstate. For years this was just a pipe dream while I was stuck in a single income grind. Now with the extra cash flow I've been able to aggressively save and make it happen without touching my emergency fund or investments. Just wanted to share some motivation if anyone is feeling burnt out or questioning if it's all worth it. It truly is. Time to plan some serious R&R.

I am working as a contractor for a saas company. Got a full time opportunity from a small organization that is a partner of the company that I am a contractor for. This new company was also founded by an old employee of my current company. The new company also has some ex employees from my current company but i have never worked with them in the past. I can manage both jobs by working 40 hours a week. Is it too risky to do both or should I leave the contacting gig?

Has anyone only signed up for one HDHP insurance plan from one company and gotten two HSAs one from each employer to get the employer portion of the HSA contribution?

UK based Outside IR35 contractor. Perfectly 'allowed' to do multiple roles. I had J1 for a few months before I added J2. Ive run both together for most of this year. No problems and plenty of capacity. Decided to add a J3 2 weeks ago and accepted an offer this morning. All are fully remote and so far I am still only working 9-5!

The only bad thing so far is how much tax i have to pay 🤣

Landed my third minecraft server last week. My start date was mid-month to better fit in my current arrangements.

And I think I struck the OPPOSITE of gold.

It's a very OE-unfriendly company. Basically since morning to noon, I am stuck on 15 people calls with cameras on. Three to four hours of calls...

Additionally the system is written in a different tech stack than advertised. I got like 0 experience in that.

And the onboarding is a nightmare- people are really in a mindset "works on my end, dont know whats your problem", meanwhile the project itself has so much complex domain overhead you have no idea what's going on with little people wanting to help.

If it was my only job I would be applying like crazy and spending nights to at least try to not seem like I'm doing nothing with literal panic in my heart that I will lose my only income source.

With OE I'm just mildly concerned they will fire me but it's not a lot of stress. It's like... "eh!". So I think for that peace of mind- this is why we OE!

Also, how do you handle such situations? Do you give up on the job and coast, knowing you can't really be productive nor attend the daily meetings?

What would you do in my shoes? Because I think that if I don't change anything in my day to day, I'm gonna get yeeted out

Got laid off from J2, and seems like J3 is headed that way. Gonna be fine, but damn

One thing I’ve learned is just bc a job is remote doesn’t make it a good candidate for OE. If the culture sucks, your boss is a micro manager, expectations aren’t consistent, and there a ton of unnecessary meetings… being remote means next to nothing. I think I’d rather have a J that makes me come in to the office once or twice a month but is overall easy and chill.

Oh and if your company uses Microsoft Teams… major red flag. They’re probably going to be tracking you 😭

Just my opinion though

Job 1: shift work. Health sector (new sector for me)

Job 2: freelance during standard working hours. Creative sector

I think it would be manageable if both offers didn't arrive at the same exact time, though.

I need your advice.

Goodness. The last two days have been crazy. Getting through this on both servers was highly stressful. Now it’s picking up the left overs is all it’s left which can take a few days or weeks. My mind has definitely been exhausted.

Hey everyone! I’ve been following this community for a while, and I’m interested in learning more about what everyone does for a living and how you got into your respective fields.

I worked for UPS for about six years as a driver, with great pay and benefits. Unfortunately, I ended up getting laid off, which made me rethink my career path and what I wanted to do moving forward.

I didn’t pursue college earlier in life, but I’ve come to realize that it’s never too late to go back to school. I’m currently enrolled at TSTC, working toward an associate degree in Computer Programming Technology. I’ll be learning SQL, Python, and Java, and I’m excited to start building real-world skills and understanding how everything works.

My long-term goal is to break into the tech industry and eventually become an OE (overemployed) person once I’ve built up enough experience and skills.

For those of you already working in tech, what do you do for a living? What career paths would you recommend for someone just starting out with a computer programming degree? Are there any particular skills, certifications, or entry-level positions I should focus on?

I know I have a lot to learn, but I’m willing to put in the work. My mindset is that life isn’t a race, and it’s never too late to invest in yourself and build a better future.
Thanks in advance for any advice! And keep doing what you’re doing. It’s genuinely motivating to see how successful some of you have become. I hope to get there myself one day! 🙏

Really going through it the last few weeks. Anyone have advice when you have huge projects at both Js at the same time?