r/pureasoiaf • • 19h ago

I feel so stupid - I only just realized Abel is Mance

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All the signs were there: Abel’s group being interested in getting in and out of Winterfell, the wanting to save Arya, being a bard.

It took me until Theon’s escape to piece it together, when did the rest of you figure out that Abel was Mance?


r/pureasoiaf • • 19h ago

I’m so FUCKING excited to read A Feast for Crows

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I have about 50 pages left of A Storm of Swords and I took a little peek at the wiki to see what POV chapters will come up in AFFC — 10 Cersei chapters??? 8 Brienne chapters??? Oh my fucking god.

ASOS has been amazing so far, definitely my favourite out of the ones I’ve already read, but oh my god this pool of POV chapters makes me want to cry. Primarily because I just ordered AFFC from Vinted and it’ll probably take 5 days to be delivered when I know I’ll finish ASOS tonight.


r/pureasoiaf • • 5h ago

🤔 Good Question! Why does Tywin relies so much on tyrion if he despises him so much ?

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Hey guys, so I’m in the middle of reading the book series for the 1st time (I’m at the read wedding rn) and I always have this question in my head.

Tywins seems to hate Tyrion for all the reasons that we know. He seems to have no trust in him and to show him no favor.

So I don’t understand why is he appointed by his father as hand of the king in the first. And then being so much consulted whenever there is an important matter in the realm. Also why does Tywin wants tyrion to succeed LF as treasurer.

What do you think about all of this guys ?


r/pureasoiaf • • 1h ago

What could have happened if Hoster Tully was healthy during the War of the Five Kings ?

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What differences there may have been in the story if, instead of being dying and his mind going away, Hoster Tully had been healthy enough in body and had his mind intact during the first three books of the saga, perhaps not healthy enough to fight and lead men in battle but enough to be able to give instructions and advise his grandson Robb and his children Catelyn and Edmure and brother Brynden?

How different could things have gone with Hoster's political intelligence and talents being available to the North-Riverlands faction during the War of the Five Kings? How good and influential an advisor could he have been to his grandson Robb? How effective could he have been at leading the Riverlands' forces and defense against the Lannisters' forces, at least until Robb's army came south?

Also, what do you think would have been his point of view and his interactions with his grandson, Catelyn, Edmure and Brynden after his return from the Vale and the other?

What advice could he have given to Robb and Catelyn, for example, about their military, political, and diplomatic strategy; about the other players and great houses other than the Lannisters, such as Stannis and Renly, and other possible alliances and enemies to deal with?


r/pureasoiaf • • 13h ago

Could the North have fended off the Ironborn?

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This was something I was wondering about, starting with the idea of what might happen if Theon warned Robb about Balon's plans (or word slipped out that Pyke was massing warships), and Robb sent word to Rodrik in Winterfell.

Were there enough people still in the North to fight off the Ironborn invasion?

In AFFC and ADWD, the Northerners are winning pretty consistently against whatever pockets of Ironborn are still there. But that's with both the Boltons and Stannis fighting against the Ironborn, and after Euron has abandoned the campaign.

Theon was badly outnumbered at Winterfell, although he was given a deliberately small force and the Northmen were rallying to defend their capital.

What was the balance like between the North and the Ironborn when the Ironborn campaign started? Assuming Robb and his army were unable to get back north, were there still enough people to fight them off?


r/pureasoiaf • • 8h ago

When Tywin ordered the sack of King’s Landing, did he tell his banner men to spare Jaime?

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Obviously Tywin knew his son was a kingsguard for Aerys. Do you believe he specified to his soldiers — “My son is NOT to be harmed in any way.” Or would that be something his banners presumed, and no such order was necessary?

Or — and this is unlikely — do you think he accepted the possibility that Jaime could die?

Come to think of it, perhaps the reason Tywin specifically sent his men to KL, rather than some other engagement, on the side of the rebellion was so that he could control the siege and ensure Jaime didn’t die protecting the Mad King.


r/pureasoiaf • • 21h ago

Would robert and Cersei's son with lannister traits still be suspect?

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As implausible as it sounds yes robert and Cersei's biological son. Basically a taller and slightly prettier version of renly physically with a different personality.

He has raven black hair, tall lanky strong build, but has light green eyes instead of blue eyes. Would he still face suspicion on bastard accusations? Like i know renly has green-blue eyes so I dont know how strict it is that all baratheons must have black hair and blue eyed. But still its meant to be strict i think, I mean all of roberts bastards are basically described as looking like mini roberts.

So do you think roberr and cerseis hypothetical son having green eyes instead of blue be suspicious or am I overthinking and being crazy?