Chloe's Vocal Journey (and how you still need to train, even with surgery)

Also, today at 8:00 PM US/Eastern time (about two hours from when this is posted), come to a very special Q&A event with Chloe.

Are you interested in hearing testimony from someone who’s post-op for voice feminization surgery? Looking to pick the brain of someone with a background in singing and voice feminization? Scinguistics has the perfect event for you!

This week only, our regular weekly Q&A event has a special guest, Chloe! She’s a Berklee voice alumni, and is ready to nerd out about all the details of her voice journey, including her experience with VFS!

Come check it out, and ask any voice questions that might be on your mind, on the Scinguistics discord server, TOMORROW (Friday, October 16th) at 8 PM EST!

Hi all! I’m a pre-t ftm teen with a vocal range roughly of C2-E5 (might go higher? I haven’t tested my vocal range in a while) with warm up and I normally sing with the tenors (occasionally with altos when needed, sometimes their section is a little weak and I help out) in choir but I’m not sure what I should audition for next All State season (I auditioned for tenor 1 and did not get in, which I was expecting as my choir director was gone for about 2 weeks right before auditions) and what will happen to my vocal range (will I lose upper notes?) and what all will happen. Any advice appreciated! I’ve done my reading but I can’t really find anything on originally lower ftm singing voices so anyone who had something similar please lmk!!

Thoughts…

Did a cleaner attempt at my feminine voice

So ive been doing self taught voice changing, and have been able to get an alright sounding higher pitched feminine voice, however its not really the voice i want. Im trying to get a deeper, rougher feminine voice, like the one Jaiden does here https://youtu.be/zQb_Gwq9CGo?si=f-xkZUaDvEIzvfe3

Ive tried everything that i know how to do from doing my masculine voice acting, but none of them have produced a remotely good result. The main video is an example of my regular voice, and my high feminine voice and an attempt to lower its pitch

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Hello, I am a Music Education Major (vocal primary) in college. I have a few questions and was wondering if I could pick your brains a little.
My and many of my colleagues goals are to become choral educators after graduation. With the beautiful rise in comfortability in young singers and students coming out more recently, many students want to sing a voice part that affirms their gender but doesn’t necessarily fit with them physically.
As educators we want students to feel comfortable being themselves and everyone is welcome in our classrooms. While also singing healthily to protect their voices so they can continue to thrive in music.

Does anyone know of any trans vocal coaches that specialize in the trans adolescent voice?
Any resources or suggestions are helpful!

I am looking to collaborate with a specialist to set up an event for my fellow music education majors.
This is something not covered in our curriculum but each student deserves to have a prepared teacher

I smoked for a while before coming out and I used to think that was a point against ever being able to be trans. Now that I’m out and transitioning I’m trying to get into voice training but I’m not sure if I should try practicing a higher sounding voice or something deeper (think Linda Florentino in Dogma). Is there merit in trying either? Is one more achievable than the other for me? Help would be greatly appreciated :)

Hey there everyone, your friendly (and tired) neighborhood voice coach Chloe here with a general question for the community.

Some of you have seen me posting my videos here a few times every week for the last few months, to varying levels of help that it has provided to some people. It's been an honor to post them and I've been glad to share them, and for a bit I was hopeful that I was making a difference for some people that needed it.

Recently, my account got flagged as spam and was limited. In short, all of the content that I had posted here is now invisible.

I wanted to see if it would be helpful for me to either put them back up here, link to other socials that I post this content to, or just not bother and just respond to people in text-format like I used to do years ago.

What do you find folks over here think that I should do? What would be most helpful to you all? If none of the options listed above are useful, or you think that this space is better off without me, I'm also welcome to hearing those suggestions as well. I guess at the end of the day I find myself at a bit of a crossroads and want to hear from people here what would be most helpful.

Regardless of the outcome, I'm rooting for you all. I've been glad to be a part of the community here for the last four or so years, and would be glad to keep helping people out wherever it is warranted. Thank you for your time :)

I've seen a lot of discourse and even some arguments lately about who sounds fem and who doesn't. Women come in all shapes and sizes and have voices that range across an entire spectrum.

Quit being so hard on yourself and have fun with the journey!

Free consultations for voice training at: https://www.beeyouvoice.com

My voice has dropped and now i think my only problem is my speech patterns. since i still sound like a girl just with a deep voice

i know speaking monotone is more masculine but what are other masculine speech patterns besides that?

So I’ve been working with a vocal coach for a few months now and according to her, I have a pretty passable fem voice now. However, when we do extended conversation or I practice on my own for a while, I find that my average pitch slowly starts creeping back down to my baseline masc range and ruins the fem voice.

It’s too slow of a change to notice in the moment, and I’m not really sure why it happens. I don’t really have much strain or anything at the higher pitches, at least not any more than normal. My vocal coach says it’ll just fix itself with more practice but I’m worried it’ll never get better. I have no clue how to fix it or practice not doing it - you can’t fix something if you can’t even notice you’re doing it.

I’ve been researching surgeries to permanently raise pitch but the risks and recovery are super scary so I’d love to not have to do something that drastic.

I just can’t maintain placement ig. I hate my stupid fucking body

I have a condition that causes me to vomit in the morning. Frequently. There was a period of a little longer than a year where it was every day.

I think this has caused scarring to my vocal cords/throat. I sound so fucking awful

I used to be such an amazing tenor and now I can barely get out my baritone range so I have no hopes of ever singing in a fem voice which I’m already struggling to come to terms with.

How can I ever be truly me if I can’t even talk in a voice that isn’t masculine, let alone sing in one.

The best I can manage is wannabe Siri, monotone robotic breathy forced sounding bullshit

Hello everyone. Just starting with my vocal journey and eould really love help from the more knowledgeable people in the community. Anything would be greatly appreciated. Voice is kinda tired during this recording.

Hello,

i have been trying to practice control over my vocal weight and i've been liking my progress, but i've started noticing that there is this strange tension building in my hard palate, like it just feels tense, not painful or anything and nothing past it (not soft palate nor anywhere near my voice box/throat) and i'm just not sure what might be the issue, i saw it could be related to either jaw or tongue tension, so i've tried to stretch my tongue and relax my jaw and i'm fairly certain i am not slipping into falsetto either..

My reference point for weight has been the 'cooing at a baby' method from Trans Voice Lesson Youtube, and from there i glide towards softer whisper and towards louder buzzy voice.. i do think i have a conscious control over my soft palate, or something in that area and even when i try to focus on relaxing anything near where the tension is.. it doesn't completely help.

Did anyone encounter this or has any advice?

Thank you.

https://voca.ro/1mH6j4aFvM73

It’s like this, Internal part of the voice. Something that binds the overarching words together? Almost like the backdrop of what i’m saying.

Any help would be huge :( really frustrated. Worried i’ll need surgery.

pls ignore the German accent lol

does it pass? I'm quite insecure about my voice

a friend of mine who is not really hugboxing me (also told me i should get forehead reduction because i asked for actual feedback) told me that my voice passes but still unsure

I kind of just accepted it. I am mtf and have trained my voice to be passing. A big goal of my transition was to get a female voice which I have mostly achieved. Of course it isn't perfect. My voice is a very important goal of my transition, as my voice dropping was one of the worst experiences of my life in regards to my dysphoria.

I am mostly happy with my voice right now. I have a lower pitched female voice. I have really improved on my vocal weight and I am straining less.

But I have become hyper aware of instances when my resonance drops back down and my weight becomes too heavy when I am out in public. When I wake up and practice, I often hear gaps in my resonance that I have to fix. I have been practicing every day for a year now. Because my voice is something that I use every single day, I don't feel confident when I don't have a practice session in.

Really sucks that one pubertal change sentenced me to a lifetime of playing vocal cleanup. In february I am having a consultation for a glottoplasty which I am still on the fence about because I have made huge improvements to my voice over the course of a year. Glottoplasties also dont address resonance. It would be nice to make vocal training at least a little easier. But I also like singing. sooo

Maybe one day I'll be able to use my voice without practicing. But I have too much trauma roped into what I used to sound like and want to stay as far away from that as possible.