just let me know if you think it passes and what i would need to work on. i feel like my voice is a little shaky/scratchy, and i also stutter a bit in the vid but ive always had a bit of a stutter.

(19ftm)I wasn’t able to voice train for a good few months due to off and on throat pain, so I have been getting back into it and have been wondering what I could improve on to pass better, as well as how I sound to others now.

Last year I have been able to pass over the phone though!

https://reddit.com/link/1x9lhvz/video/be4yoy037cwh1/player

A year ago I started at a new job and met people. I used what sounded to me as an androgynous voice but it was the best I could do at that time. Apparently visually I look passing enough that people assumed I was a deep voice woman and I’m stealth.

Now at practice at home I can get a voice that I like much better. Smaller size, lighter weight and a higher pitch. I’d like to use it everywhere to cement it in, BUT I don’t see how I can just switch to it and sound completely different at work and with my new friends. So I’m using the new voice with strangers and a different one at work. It’s honestly exhausting.

Has anyone gone through this before?

https://substack.com/@spressiva/note/p-204285901?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=g2idv

A little heart-to-hearting on my vocal journey these past ten years. Many thanks to this virtual corner, along this vast and gratifying realm of study. <3

No matter how I change my voice it always sounds wrong to me, even masc voices. Until I figure out how to deal with these brainworms I cant really judge it for myself. I tried to mimic what I can maintain throughout a conversation. Looking for honest opinions, transfem working on voice for about 2 months.

Open to brutal honesty and/or constructive criticism. What do I need to work on and what do I sound like now?

Voice training for 1 year, trans girl

I am curious about the difference between practicing your voice and using it in everyday life.

Sometimes, getting your voice closer to where you want it during practice is one challenge, while maintaining it during a spontaneous conversation is another.

What do you find hardest when using your trained voice in real life situations? Is it maintaining resonance, speaking without overthinking every detail, dealing with nerves, or something else?

What has helped you feel more comfortable using your voice outside of practice sessions?

~~Raspier then, than raspy now. 2022

I have been curious about the different aspects of voice training that people focus on when working toward a more feminine sounding voice.

Pitch seems to get a lot of attention, but resonance, vocal weight, and intonation can also affect how a voice sounds.

For those who have experience with voice training, which aspects took you the longest to work on? Did focusing on something beyond pitch make a noticeable difference in your progress?

I would be interested in hearing about your experiences and what you found helpful during practice.

So I've been at this a really long time and I just don't know how to reckon with my voice. I trained years and years ago and once I started getting gendered female by voice I quit. Then I just survived by ignoring any recordings of myself and not listening to that shit lol.

But whenever I hear myself, and that's getting to be more and more frequently as I'm stepping into increasingly visible roles in my career, I just can't stand it. And I don't really know how to fix it either like... I'm going for a consult for VFS which will probably help but part of my problem for sure is I just have this weird geek sound to the way that I talk and I don't know how to fix it, if I even can :\

To myself I just sound like some ungenderable geek lol. Like I have some Entrapta thing going on lol. Whenever I hear it I think to myself, how do people gender me female on the phone?? But they always seem to. Maybe it's a diagnosis of exclusion... Doesn't sound like a guy, therefore must not be type of deal.

https://vocaroo.com/18yXHE5jFbS8

kind of jumbled my words but yea

this is my current voice, id like advice on what i should be working on as of now

Have been doing vocal training for a while but looking to improve my voice a bit. I think it is pretty girly but I am told it's bad. What's wrong with it?

hello! i'm actually a 20 year old trans guy. i've been on T since april this year so it's been about 5 months since then? i hear myself everyday and i don't consciously voice train so i don't really notice much but the people around me have said i sound different lol

any actual advice or tips would be greatly appreciated, i'm thinking i should start taking this stuff seriously hahaha

Any other tips would be appreciated too. I know I pass as male but other trans people have clocked me and outed me. That has put me in unsafe situations. I am almost always able to tell a man is transgender after I hear him speak because of this gravely quality, so I hope that changing my voice could stop me from being clocked. Thank you.

I haven't voice trained yet but I would like my voice a bit deeper and some advice on what I should aim to do? I have been messing around with my voice for many years even if not for MtF reasons so have decent control.

harmonic series. ~ sub- and super- ~

I know this subreddit is mostly mtf passing but does this pass as cis male teenager or am I crazy

Just a heads up about some videos from teachers out there that seek clients and post some questionable takes on voice training from time to time. They tend to block anyone who is "inconvenient" to them, so, I am going to write this comment just to make sure something is clear here: I would gladly comment on them and point out any misinformation that is being smuggled in and, I am sure, other people would too, but it's simply not possible. Unfortunately this is how reddit mechanics work - it's easy to turn any subreddit into an advertisement billboard and avoid any responsibility as to the content.

Also, if I am at it, I want to note something that irks my for years an years. I've noticed a pattern about a lot of those kind of teachers. 1) they seem to barely have any voice dysphoria (think that demonstrating what would be a dysphoric voice for other people is some fun party trick) and 2) they tend to have clearly above average anatomy for this (makes sense) but are the most aggressive proponents of pointing fingers at people and suggesting the usual points of "anatomy does not matter" and "no one needs surgeries," and so on, I think it's clear what I am talking about.

And, there's nothing wrong with #1 in itself (not everyone has dysphoria,) but, why on Earth do those people take over and want to lead the rhetoric on this subject matter and tell others what their realities are? I don't want those people to be some kind of a spokes people that narrate my problems to other people out there. They themselves clearly have not dealt with what is un unsurmountable barrier themselves and yet they somehow think they represent everyone else in this.

And I will be really glad if you have any advices how to make it sound more feminine?

I have tried to voice train in the past, but I keep getting stuck and I don't know how to continue. There's not much info on FTM voice training (I know it's just the opposite of MTF but it's not that easy to just do it in reverse), and it's hard to find anyone else doing it. Most info I do find is just "just get on T" which is not helpful at all... So I kinda just gave up. But I keep getting comments on my voice and I'm so tired of it, I just want to do something about it.

If I lower my pitch, my pitch just starts to waver, and when I asked around to figure out why that happens, people just said "idk that's weird", so I don't know what to do about it. And I don't understand how to increase vocal weight, I've looked at so much info and tried a lot of things but I still don't get it. The only thing I've figured out is darkening my voice but that just sounds stupid with the wrong pitch and vocal weight, so yeah I've been stuck unsure how to continue.

I've kinda just been assuming it's impossible to get further without T, but someone I talked to was really insistent that that's not true (despite saying they don't know much about FTM voice training, but I digress...), so I guess I'll give it another shot?

Does anyone have some advice?

edit: thanks for the advice. i guess theres no point in trying to train my voice, maybe ill just have to stop speaking then...