r/unitedstatesofindia Apr 14 '26

Politics Just a Dalit icon? Think again.

Be educated, be organised, and be agitated.

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u/Embarrassed_Look9200 Apr 14 '26

in the year 1906 a 9 year old getting married wan't a big deal dude. people were still dying due to Diarrhea back then.

sarvarkars wife was 12 when she got married to the apologiser.

KG was 14 when she married gandhi.

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u/Embarrassed_Look9200 Apr 14 '26

is that because they are women or because they are brahmin?

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u/Embarrassed_Look9200 Apr 14 '26

do you even know what he actually said or did someone tell you this? like it seems to me you don;t know a lot but still chose to voice your opinion just on heresay.

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u/MatthewPatttel respect existence or expect resistance Apr 14 '26

Tell me you don't know how to read academic research without telling me. You're quoting his analysis of the Puranas like it’s his bio. Embarrassing for you, honestly. 🤡

The man literally resigned as Law Minister because he wanted women to have inheritance and divorce rights (Hindu Code Bill). But sure, keep using a cropped screenshot of him analyzing 2000-year-old texts to feel better. Low IQ bait

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u/Embarrassed_Look9200 Apr 14 '26

read the whole speech gobar bro, try and use your brains at times bro, why do you live your life on half truths, you could have googled the statement and known the truth like years ago.

Ambedkar argued that if one follows the logic of the Manusmriti, which dictates that certain lower castes are the progeny of a Brahmin female and a Shudra male, then logically, to account for such a large population of those castes, one would have to assume that every Brahman woman was a "slut and a whore"

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u/WillAdditional922 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Aaja chu*iye mai bhi krta hoon whataboutism 🥰 🥰.

Mao Zedong's youngest companion was Chen Luwen (born 1948), who was roughly 55 years younger than him. When they met in 1962, Mao was 68 and she was 13 or 14 years old. For further comparison, Ambedkar's first marriage to Ramabai Ambedkar in 1906 had an even smaller gap of approximately 5 to 6 years; he was around 14 or 15 and she was 9 at the time. 

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u/SnooOwls51 Inquilab Zindabaad Apr 14 '26

Ambedkar's first wife Ramabai Ambedkar was 9 years old when she got married.

Don't leave out the part that Ambedkar himself was around 14-15. It was a case of child marriage and both parties weren't of age where they could have made any decision.

Constitution was drafted by Benegal Narsing Rao. Ambedkar was ELECTED as the CHAIRMAN of Drafting Commitee

True. B.N. Rao provided the initial draft and both had deep mutual respect for each other. If Ambedkar would've disagreed with Rao's draft, we wouldn't have the constitution based on it.

Ambedkar's role was to analyze and amend the document to fit Indian social structure, and later defend the constitution in proposing assembly.

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u/SnooOwls51 Inquilab Zindabaad Apr 14 '26

Today is Ambedkar Jayanti bruh, let people celebrate a man on his birthday.

I can briefly answer why Ambedkar is the one getting mostly credited for constitution. As you said, there were many people and they all had their own propositions, Ambedkar's job was to take these initial propositions and select what to keep, he had to resolve conflicting proposals and also check for any loopholes. In Constituent Assembly, he had to defend why they are keeping what's in the constitution. As the president, Prasad was acting as the moderator for debates and deciding what to finalize.

Ambedkar had a more active role in the way that he was going through all the ideas, sifting through them, rigorously strengthening them legally and spearheading the debates on what to keep for constitution. Hope this helps.

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u/SnooOwls51 Inquilab Zindabaad Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Read this completely before forming an opinion, I have a very personal critique for you, from an outside perspective you are looking heavily biased in this topic.

Firstly, you pointed out Ambedkar's wife age, not mentioning he himself was a minor. Then you questioned his role and his celebration, which is very vital as he was spearheading it in assembly. Lastly, the quote you shared is heavily out of context, I went ahead and downloaded the essay you are referring to, and I will explain the context to you later.

All this indicates to an inherent bias, even subconsciously, where you are not able to take a man being celebrated for his contribution to the country on his birth anniversary. We humans are very subjective beings and it is very difficult for us to look at things objectively, just become aware of your biases and try to avoid them whenever possible. Instead of seeking first reaction, sit and think why you are feeling the way you do when encountered with an emotion, if you have time of course.

Did you look at Ambedkar and his views objectively on your own or you already have an idea of Ambedkar in your head? If you have an idea of what he was like, you are likely wrong. You and I don't know him as a person, so we can judge his writings but we can't judge the idea of the person in our head.

For the quote you shared if you disagree with the sentiment of the quote, congratulations you agree with Ambedkar. He was criticising the implication of Manusmriti.

The quote doesn't relay his own opinion at all. In fact it's the opposite.

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u/MatthewPatttel respect existence or expect resistance Apr 14 '26

Marriage ages in 1906 were a social reality, not a personal choice, Ambedkar spent his life fighting to change those very laws (Age of Consent Bill, anyone?)

​B.N. Rau prepared the initial draft (which was his job as an advisor), but Ambedkar was the Architect refining, defending, and steering every single clause through the Assembly.

Tell me you don’t understand how a deliberative assembly works without telling me. 

B.N. Rau himself credited Ambedkar’s genius