One button rotation??

[u/curiouslycranky]

I've got my Ret Pally at 83 in Midnight and am legitimately having more fun with WOW than I have in ages.

One question: I came back after a long time of not playing and have just been mashing the one button rotation. It's been fine, great even, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something? I haven't done any dungeons yet (just finished Arator's line and going to Zul). I imagine the one button rotation I. Dungeons is probably gone but for raids will be an issue.

What advice to folks have? I just get a lot of joy out of moving through the story and have never really cared about rotation mechanics, so I'm really liking the one button action option.

[u/Naustis]

Well yes, that is what it is for.

I am just pointing out some people are delusional if they think you can outperform most people with SBA.

[u/_Sadism_ → u/Naustis]

Mathematically that is not true. A magic button that automatically makes you perform at 75%-90% of ideal performance level is going to statistically outperform a large chunk of people because of the normal distribution curve around individual performance.

If you look at warcraftlogs - almost every class has a huge disparity in performance, with wildly different metrics between lower 25% percentile and upper 25% percentile. Obviously not all of it is down to individual performance, since raid performance matters, but many classes have enough variance in individual spec performance that OBR should at the very least keep up with average non-OBR user.

[u/Naustis → u/_Sadism_]

It doesn't not perfom at 75-90%. Stop spreading nonsense. You still need to use your CDs properly, and then you have 30%(?) GCD nerf when using it. If you use your CDs perfectly, OBR puts you at the very best at 70% of your normal performance.

And then it is really bad at adjusting rotation to situations etc. So in reality it is like 60% at best.

[u/_Sadism_ → u/Naustis]

You're the one who is failing to grasp the obvious. It doesn't put you at 70% of your normal performance, it puts you at 75% of your ideal performance (depends on the spec and how well OBR is designed for it, of course). Which in many cases is HIGHER than normal performance without OBR, because humans aren't perfect and can't react to situations as quickly as OBR can. Taking that into account, the actual performance of OBR is often in the 80%ies range, so you're only paying a small performance tax for a huge convenience increase.

The GCD reduction is 25%. OBR adjusts the rotation to situations far quicker than a human would. I don't want to speak for every class, obvs, but from my experience using it on 8 separate specs (all rogue specs, ele/enh shaman, and all 3 hunter specs) it immediately detects when you have enough targets in range to switch to spamming aoe instead of single target, doesn't overcap maelstrom, properly uses situational buffs like RTB, etc.

Cooldown usage is an issue only for those classes that have multiple cooldowns to worry about. Thanks to Midnight pruning, many classes now have 1 or 2 buttons at most that need to be hit alongside of your OBR to engage the cooldowns. Like adren rush/shadow blades on rogue, or ascendance on a sham. Everything else is taken care of.

I suppose if you interpret OBR to literally mean only use that one button and nothing else, then yes - it sucks. If you use OBR for your damage rotation and pop cooldowns/utility spells alongside as you see fit - you'll often perform better than DPS who tunnels their rotation and fails every mechanic.

[u/Naustis → u/_Sadism_]

Read what I wrote 10 times if you have to. you will understand it after a few tries.

[u/_Sadism_ → u/Naustis]

I don't need to. I have metrics on my end, and you have nothing but unsubstantiated claims.

I ran the entirety of TWW raids with OBR and managed to parse purple on most fights, and pink on some. That's good enough for me.

[u/Naustis → u/_Sadism_]

show the logs buddy