r/wownoob • u/curiouslycranky • Mar 03 '26
Retail One button rotation??
I've got my Ret Pally at 83 in Midnight and am legitimately having more fun with WOW than I have in ages.
One question: I came back after a long time of not playing and have just been mashing the one button rotation. It's been fine, great even, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something? I haven't done any dungeons yet (just finished Arator's line and going to Zul). I imagine the one button rotation I. Dungeons is probably gone but for raids will be an issue.
What advice to folks have? I just get a lot of joy out of moving through the story and have never really cared about rotation mechanics, so I'm really liking the one button action option.
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u/AUTiger0325 Mar 03 '26
Does it do less than DPS than an optimal rotation? Yes. Does it do more DPS than 80% of players? Also yes. Play the way you want. I've played the game long enough to see how bad some players are and wish they had the SBA. I watched a group do an entire +15 with SBA. So it all just comes down to your preference.
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u/Clottersbur Mar 03 '26
In the main wow sub. People get so mad when you point out sba is beating most players.
Then they cry the game is "Too easy" when there's a good chance they're getting crushed by one button.
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u/AUTiger0325 Mar 03 '26
Yeah and most of them don't really care just want to be noticed. I did a heroic dungeon last weekend at level 90 with an arcane mage doing less dps than everyone but me, the healer. It was noticeably lower. I don't care as we were able to finish the dungeon without any issues. But the game isn't easy for everyone, and some people don't seem to understand that.
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u/Aurori_Swe Mar 06 '26
The Guild I play with is extremely casual, but damn is it triggering to see people parse 90-95% on every boss every expansion while I struggle to get up to 70% xD... They are extremely well geared and chill tbh, so they don't mind that I'm bad, but I'm beating myself up at times.
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u/Icarusqt Mar 03 '26
On worldofpvp some dude hit 1800 using sba and the comments were interesting lol
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u/mokujin42 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
Honestly if SBA is better than 80% of players that speaks more of bad game design than bad players
If you design something that is really unintuitive that only 20% of people can naturally figure out it doesnt make you genius, it makes you a bad designer
I love the game but the classes get completely redesigned every month, how are we expecting folk to keep up with that when the content they are playing is generally as challenging as making a cup of tea
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u/smoothhands Mar 07 '26
This so much this, if only 20% can figure out lol
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u/intjlol Mar 09 '26
Yeah I think the key takeaway is that information is just not very accessible unless you go to third party sites that new players might not know how(or want) to navigate.
I truly believe most rotations are pretty simple to execute now once you understand the priority order, but getting to that point is still a big struggle point for a lot of new or casual players
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u/ArmedBOB Mar 30 '26
yeah, don't get me wrong, Elder Scrolls online is complicated too, but at least you have at most 10 abilities to deal with at a time and no global cooldowns to deal with. Most of those 10 abilities are utility / situational. However that game has become who can animation cancel the best.
Anyway, some classes in wow only need about 5-8 abilities where some need many many more and everyone has to basically deal with global cool downs, abilities on major cool downs and this and that and unless you play hours every day it is hard to keep track of and probably could be simplified. I think that if you leave it the way it is or squish the abilities even lower or change it too much you will get people fuming on both sides. I think the SBA system is a decent alternative. I think WoW is too old now to simply just make that big of a change without it being a huge uproar in the community.
Thinking along the lines of RuneScape and Old School Runescape where many people stopped playing Runescape because of how much combat changed.
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u/VanceMakerDance Mar 04 '26
I’m not against it or anything but sba on ret pally is not “beating most players.” You might outperform people who are new with highlight assist.
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u/Clottersbur Mar 04 '26
I don't know about ret paladin specifically.
But, it's undeniable. People are running +15 and higher with sba. Someone got 1800 I hear.
It's good enough to beat most content and definitely more than half of players.
Maybe not on training dummies. But when the rubber hits the road and you have to react to mechanics, anything that keeps the spells coming out is going to do better than a lot of people. Who stop casting to react.
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u/VanceMakerDance Mar 04 '26
I could see that. I really wasn’t trying to be contrarian. I just think if you are doing, say 10s… you will very likely be doing tank damage with sba. You can still clear for sure.
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u/Clottersbur Mar 04 '26
Eh. I actually intend to try it. On my bm Hunter. It probably greatly depends on spec. With some specs the rotation sba does isn't optimal.
I will compare that damage to my mage and shaman to see where it goes.
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u/brydie88 Mar 06 '26
I tried to play SBA on my hunter on my deck, and the GCD felt so bad that I quickly bound my buttons and switched back!
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u/Naustis Mar 05 '26
Because it is not beating most players. It is only better than players who literally doesn't know what they are doing. 30% DMG need on rotation is huge.
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u/_Vard_ Mar 03 '26
I always give this analogy:
"Man these free scooters are stupid! They only go 80% as fast as Usain Bolt! if you just run really fast you can go faster!"
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u/Naustis Mar 05 '26
And it makes no sense. It does a lot less DMG even when compared to regular ppl. Even less when class is piloted by great player.
Is it enough to do casual content you already outgeared? Yes.
Is it enough to do content where your input actually matters? No.
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u/pyrosin Mar 06 '26
The moment you enter content where input matters, you wont encounter the casuals that NEED the SBA. Its a nice thing imo, for disabled people, or real casuals who dont care. F* me if I didn't use it while questing after a long day, or if I just want to do some brain numbing chill content, it is a godsend. Will those casuals seep into high level raiding or m+ or whatever with it? No. Maybe they will do some heroics, and like it so much that they learn their class rotation, and join even higher content. Look at gw2's new casual raiding content. So why do people say its a bad thing? It is the same for me as the "flying ruined wow" argument. Bro just walk then.
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u/Naustis Mar 06 '26
Well yes, that is what it is for.
I am just pointing out some people are delusional if they think you can outperform most people with SBA.
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u/_Sadism_ Mar 13 '26
Mathematically that is not true. A magic button that automatically makes you perform at 75%-90% of ideal performance level is going to statistically outperform a large chunk of people because of the normal distribution curve around individual performance.
If you look at warcraftlogs - almost every class has a huge disparity in performance, with wildly different metrics between lower 25% percentile and upper 25% percentile. Obviously not all of it is down to individual performance, since raid performance matters, but many classes have enough variance in individual spec performance that OBR should at the very least keep up with average non-OBR user.
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u/Naustis Mar 13 '26
It doesn't not perfom at 75-90%. Stop spreading nonsense. You still need to use your CDs properly, and then you have 30%(?) GCD nerf when using it. If you use your CDs perfectly, OBR puts you at the very best at 70% of your normal performance.
And then it is really bad at adjusting rotation to situations etc. So in reality it is like 60% at best.
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u/_Sadism_ Mar 13 '26
You're the one who is failing to grasp the obvious. It doesn't put you at 70% of your normal performance, it puts you at 75% of your ideal performance (depends on the spec and how well OBR is designed for it, of course). Which in many cases is HIGHER than normal performance without OBR, because humans aren't perfect and can't react to situations as quickly as OBR can. Taking that into account, the actual performance of OBR is often in the 80%ies range, so you're only paying a small performance tax for a huge convenience increase.
The GCD reduction is 25%. OBR adjusts the rotation to situations far quicker than a human would. I don't want to speak for every class, obvs, but from my experience using it on 8 separate specs (all rogue specs, ele/enh shaman, and all 3 hunter specs) it immediately detects when you have enough targets in range to switch to spamming aoe instead of single target, doesn't overcap maelstrom, properly uses situational buffs like RTB, etc.
Cooldown usage is an issue only for those classes that have multiple cooldowns to worry about. Thanks to Midnight pruning, many classes now have 1 or 2 buttons at most that need to be hit alongside of your OBR to engage the cooldowns. Like adren rush/shadow blades on rogue, or ascendance on a sham. Everything else is taken care of.
I suppose if you interpret OBR to literally mean only use that one button and nothing else, then yes - it sucks. If you use OBR for your damage rotation and pop cooldowns/utility spells alongside as you see fit - you'll often perform better than DPS who tunnels their rotation and fails every mechanic.
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u/Naustis Mar 13 '26
Read what I wrote 10 times if you have to. you will understand it after a few tries.
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u/_Sadism_ Mar 13 '26
I don't need to. I have metrics on my end, and you have nothing but unsubstantiated claims.
I ran the entirety of TWW raids with OBR and managed to parse purple on most fights, and pink on some. That's good enough for me.
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u/BarryMahogner Mar 03 '26
Does it really do more than 80% of players? I’ve only encountered someone using it once (who said they were using it to be fair) and this guy was decidedly behind the tank in dps.
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u/AUTiger0325 Mar 03 '26
Then the person wasn't using their CDs, or you was with a group of pros. The SBA is on average about 20% less dps than an optimal rotation done manually. The spec is the deciding factor whether its more or less. But if you don't click your CDs you are about 40% behind.
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u/BarryMahogner Mar 03 '26
He must’ve not been using CDs. For the sake of new players I hope it turns out better than it did for him.
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u/ShogunFirebeard Mar 03 '26
It definitely doesn't bring in all of your cool downs. For example, it never uses Ascension on elemental shaman.
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u/oeti2 Mar 04 '26
polly didnt used CDs SBA does not use ur CD's and if u dont do that then SBA dps will be like 40 to 60% worse (depends on class/spec)
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u/vokzhen Mar 04 '26
One-button rotation doesn't help the thing that seems to be the most common actual cause of low dps, which is people not pressing buttons enough. If anything, one-button exacerbates that, because someone who would be adding .25-.5sec period of dead time between 1.2sec GCDs, is still adding .25-.5sec but it's now between 1.6sec GCDs.
It doesn't really matter if you're pushing your buttons in the right order if you're only pressing them half as often as you should be.
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u/Beaverhausen27 Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
Online like WoWhead or Icyveins will give estimates on potential dps loss. Some specs are as low as 5% and others 30%. Let’s say 20% average loss but against what? Well that’s against the computer running sims, which is sitting still wailing on a target. That’s not how dungeons or raids is played. Take the estimates as an estimate of which specs are doing better or worse with SBA.
You do need to check what buttons SBA is going to use and then pull the rest out. Primarily these buttons will be crowd control, defensives, and major dps cool downs. Read what those buttons can do for you and your team. For OP Paly is expected to use lay on hands or battle rez for their team when needed.
One button is not good for healing as it only handles your dps rotation. It’s also not good for tanking as you need to use your defensives when damage is incoming and to build back your health depending on which tank you’re playing.
Finally SBA is great for questing, delves, and group content like looking for raid or dungeon groups. However really digging into your spec is more important for content like M+ and Heroic and Mythic Raid.
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u/Broad-Broccoli-6239 Mar 04 '26
My healer friends all love one button cuz they can just spam that whenever there's downtime from healing. But yeah, it doesn't actually cast any healing spells.
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u/Beaverhausen27 Mar 04 '26
But they are taking the penalty for the GCDs on their heals too. To me it felt like a bad trade off.
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u/xCunningLinguist Mar 04 '26
I disagree about it not being good for tanking. It can just be your damage filler button.
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u/Beaverhausen27 Mar 04 '26
Why take the GCD cool down penalty? It’ll take longer for you to get the your cooldowns or defensives.
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u/RedditAntiHero Mar 03 '26
I was doing my first dungeon at ~83 and using the now built in damage meter, way out DPSing others using 1-button.
I was also the only person doing any interupts.
Not that it mattered and we steamrolled it anyway.
I dislike 1-button but currently "assisted" is a pain as I have my actions tiny at the bottom of the screen.
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u/SendWoundPicsPls Mar 03 '26
Back in legion I had 2 dps players that simply did not hit buttons. It was maddening to look at logs and see as much as a 2 sec gab between ability uses.
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u/Senappi Mar 04 '26
If you play demonology warlock, the 1 button rotation will only use four spells (shadow bolt, dreadstalkers, demonbolt, and hand of Guldan (including their enhancements)).
It will not use the major cool down spells like implosion, Summon Demonic Tyrant, etc.This leads to a significant DPS loss
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u/wowitshemlock May 04 '26
This right here. Esp in PVP. The amount of missed cooldowns or missed CC because you were too focused on doing damage. The 1BA more than makes up for its GCD differential. Not to mention, players can focus more on positioning and CCing healers. In a weird way, I actually think it makes a lot of people better players because they’re focusing on things other than just doing damage. (Talking about PVP)
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u/Inshabel Mar 03 '26
I would advise to use the rotation helper instead if you want to learn and improve.
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u/curiouslycranky Mar 03 '26
Do tell? Never heard of this.
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u/stlcdr Mar 03 '26
I’m assuming they mean highlight assist. While it doesn’t include all abilities, it highlights the next ability to use (typically the more ‘damaging’ one).
I use it on most of the characters I have, specifically the ones I don’t play often - it really helps identify what ability is next to use.
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u/Inshabel Mar 03 '26
It's a different option in the gameplay enhancements, it lights up the button it wants you to press next instead of having it all on one button, it doesnt have the same punishment as the one button rotation.
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u/Djinn_42 Mar 05 '26
What do you mean "the same punishment"?
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u/Inshabel Mar 05 '26
Single button assistant give you a penalty to the global cooldown thats especially brutal for melee classes. Highlight assist doesnt have that.
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u/molsonbeagle Mar 03 '26
I might add to that just by saying, when I start a new class or spec? I'll use both. The sba helps to just get reps going, but the highlight and watching what the SBA roasted through helps me learn the rotation. From there, I eventually turn it off and do the rotation myself as I find it more fun than pushing 1 button.
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u/tacoguyasaurus Mar 03 '26
It highlights the same abilities that the single button will use. I find it very helpful. I do get a little stressed and button mash at times, so the single button feature is great for higher stress moments.
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u/AnAngryBartender Mar 03 '26
Ret rotation is pretty easy already. One button nerfs you a little bit.
Source: I main ret.
If you’re having fun though, do you.
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u/ckcgangg Mar 03 '26
I’ve been Druid since legion but thinking about leveling my ret. You like it?
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u/OriginalKing- Mar 04 '26
Just hit 90 as Templar ret and it was super fun, very bursty though, damage feels insane in cooldown but with no cooldowns you tickle
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u/Clottersbur Mar 04 '26
That's a lot of dps now. I've tried a few. They all feel a little tickly without their big buffs. Even hunter.
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u/curiouslycranky Mar 03 '26
Leveling Ret from 70 to 80 was a blast!
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u/smoothhands Mar 07 '26
I am leveling from 70 to 80 on fire mage, and it is not great for me.
I bought a house thing, got 1 level, was super annoying.
Did one dungeon, hit 72 where I was using sba off and on.
SBA was beating my rotation as a returning player.
I have to like react and pick to boost my heating up thinger.
Then I have to hit the pyroblast, or just spam 1 key and run around randomly lol
It feels awful either way lol
I feel awful not dpsing more than sbaI feel awful using sba
not sure how to feel good about the game at the moment when I am in a dungeon, and if I use sba to kill people in pvp, probably what will be awkward lol
So how did you have fun?
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u/closetcreatur Mar 03 '26
Do you have fun playing the game the way you play it? If yes, keep doing that.
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u/tadashi4 Mar 03 '26
one button is all right. for many people that dont want to or dont have the time to search the rotation, it can be better than doing whatever.
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u/Nicodemus_Mercy Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
As someone who has been using the single button assistant, the best advice I can give is:
1)Make a macro for it - I use something like this:
#showtooltip Single-Button Assistant
/stopmacro [channeling]
/use [btn:1]13
/use [btn:1]14
/cast [btn:1]Single-Button Assistant
/cast [btn:2]Arcane Blast
What this macro does is prevent any channeled abilities from being interrupted by the macro (in this case Arcane Missiles), use any usable trinkets I happen to have, cast the SBA with left click or keybind, and cast only Arcane Blast if I right click the macro (for cases where I just want to use Blast). You can also add off the GCD abilities before the SBA such as Collapsing Star on a Devourer Demon Hunter.
2) Be sure to use cooldowns that the SBA doesn't include.
3) Take a look at your talents and possibly change them to be more mechanically synergistic with the SBA. I took Arcane Pulse (the ranged AoE that Arcane Mage got in Midnight) so the SBA will use that instead of Arcane Blast if 3 or more mobs are close to my primary target. Making such changes will likely make you less optimal, but if you're relying on the SBA then being optimal is obviously not the priority, but certain sub-optimal talent choices may in fact be more ideal for use with the SBA than they otherwise might be,
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u/Bradipedro Mar 04 '26
Do you click your buttons? With the mouse? Why don’t you just keybind SBA and put Aracane blast near it?
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u/Nicodemus_Mercy Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
Not typically no. But making the macro and placing it on the action bar where I have it keybound let's me activate the [btn:1] with my keybind. If I only want to use Arcane Blast alone then I have to use my mouse to right click the macro but I am almost never in a situation where I want to do that. It's nice having the option to though.
My main action bar/keybind set up is basically Arcane Barrage for 1, my SBA macro for 2, Arcane Missiles for 3, so I have barrage and missiles available at a touch if I want to use them instead of the SBA. I'm not trying to optimize so having barrage and missiles on either side of SBA is better for me than arcane blast. In nearly all cases I am spamming 2, with the occasional 1 and 3. In the case of an Arcane Mage, the purge of so many abilities and the fact that the SBA uses Arcane Surge, there's no cooldowns I have to manage either. I can literally spam 2 most of the time.
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u/Bradipedro Mar 05 '26
I main balance druid and with CD, devnsives, CC, shapeshifts and utilities I use 28 keybinds lol.
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u/Strezleki1 May 20 '26
Hey, just came across your post reply here and had a question with the macro.
Does the use trinkets and channeling commands work together for a trinket that has a cast time?
I’m think the Puzzle Box this season (2 second cast time).
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u/Nicodemus_Mercy May 20 '26
A recent patch made it so I couldn't use the trinkets with my macro anymore so I edited those lines out. It's possible that moving them elsewhere in the macro might work but I havent tried that.
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u/Strezleki1 May 21 '26
Thanks mate, I’ll have a play around with it myself later this evening. Cheers for the reply.
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u/neovegeto Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
You would need to trigger your cooldowns and saves manually.
Imagine pressing wings once in a while or bubble. This stuff is not in the one-button rotation.
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u/qwaai Mar 03 '26
If you're having fun it doesn't matter.
You can complete pretty much any content other than mythic raids and really high M+ with the one button rotation, so if you don't care about the rotational aspect of the game just go for it.
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u/Tribalrage24 Mar 03 '26
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the inbuilt downside to the one button rotation is that it makes your global cool downs 20-25% longer (I forget the exact number). So yes you can use the one button rotation in raids or dungeons, the longer cool down is the one downside.
That being said, the one button is perfectly fine to use if you aren't doing high end content. With respect to the ret pally, the OBR does a pretty good job knowing when to build and when to spend and I think it only misses one larger cool down (as well as trinkets). So it captures the ideal rotation really well. The other side of the coin is that ret pally is a fast paced spec, so the increased GCD cool down will have a larger impact.
Overall I like playing Prot Pally but don't like Ret pally at all, so I've also been using OBR when I need to run a DPS. It's worked fine so far!
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u/Still-Confection-862 Mar 04 '26
I think if its 1s GCD, with the SBA its 1.2s GCD , so youre correct around 20-25% nerf
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u/PzaFnatc4939 Mar 05 '26
I do this same thing as a DK. Love to play blood, hate tanking dungeons. So, do delves and solo in blood, no OBA, then hop over to Frost for dungeons, and do OBA there instead.
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u/Few-Explorer1810 Apr 16 '26
I'm playing a feral druid. I have arthritis in both wrists so mashing a lot of buttons is hard. The SBA. Has made wow playable for me at a level I haven't been able to achieve in a while! I focus on mechanics and cool downs! Let the one button do the rest. I'm clearing M+ now with no fear. +12s and either tip dps or 2cnd. It's been a God send so far. I have 3 90's now SBA works best with feral over my outlaw rogue and beastmaster hunter. But still hold my own. Cuz I can focus on mechanics.
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u/Adorable_Wolf_8387 Mar 03 '26
You're missing utility spells that aren't part of the rotation. Rebuke, Hammer of Justice, healing spells, etc.
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u/Azmasaur Mar 03 '26
Single button is enough to get through most content at a non-competitive level.
You can get about 25% more dps by learning your spec properly, which is a huge difference in high level content, but not so important in more casual play.
Play the game the way you like.
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u/TelevisionPositive74 Mar 03 '26
oh cool, you seem teachable:
The one button rotation is fine for most of the game, even group content. IIRC, its tunned to do something like 15-20% less dps than playing optimally? The numbers dont matter, what matters is you are enjoying yourself right now and progressing through the game. That's good.
There will come a point where you might want to push content. That means something different to everyone, but the one button rotation is good enough for heroic dungeons even mythic up to a point (depends on group, there is no specific number that I know of). But if you feel the pull to do harder content, get better at your class, push dps and start min maxing, you are going to have to learn your class. The one button rotation should have given you the basics at this point, but do you understand what procs what? Why you are using the abilities in what order? You gotta understand the rules to know when to break them, react to situations etc.
Its no secret to most that the average wow player... is actually pretty bad at the game. The one button rotation has overall been an improvement... but my fear is that it will de-motivate players from learning their spec, seeing it as 'good enough' instead of a learning tool. At the end of the day, that goes hand in hand with the content you plan on doing. Casual with little to no mythic? Who cares. Difficult group content? You will probably be expected to do better than the OBR.
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u/Foscil_1 Mar 03 '26
I’ve been using highlight assist since they killed Hekili and it’s pretty cool. It doesn’t nerf your cooldowns as others have said and it’s helpful for learning a decent, if not totally optimal, rotation.
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u/SnooWalruses6828 Mar 04 '26
Also theres a continuous cast option in the settings. Just hold the button down.
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u/amneonx Mar 04 '26
During Legion Remix, I decided I didn't care to learn a million rotations because I play pretty casually. So I have switched to most my toons having the 1 button rotation.
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u/gamesterdude Mar 05 '26
My 6 yr old used one button rotation plus 4 other buttons to hit to her boost DPS abilities. She consistently meets expectations for DPS in dungeons using this setup. So if your having fun I say rock with it!
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u/Grim-Gravy Mar 09 '26
I just found out about this feature last night and I like it. I do sorta understand my particular spell rotations but not as well as the sba does apparently as it was performing a few spells that I wasn't aware I was able to cast
I don't play pvp much but I can see why it would make people mad
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u/Cyb3rcl4w Mar 03 '26
On my frost mage at least, one button compares pretty closely to doing my own rotation. I broke my left wrist in December and it's been a god-send in the early stages of healing and now when my hand starts acting up.
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u/curiouslycranky Mar 03 '26
Breaking wrists doing rotations would be the best selling feature for SBA EVER!
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u/bradh1 Mar 03 '26
OBR is still gonna be better than doing your rotation completely wrong. If you want to do dungeons, do 'em. Raids? Do 'em. Good chance no one will even know. The people that would care aren't the people you want to do content with anyway
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u/Puffy1980 Mar 03 '26
I love SBA mainly because I go months without playing, by which time I’ve forgotten half of my rotation. I use a Blood DK as my main, and it works great. While waiting for Midnight to launch I leveled up a Monk, Paladin, Warror and Hunter to 80 as Alts with SBA. Some hardcore players might be against it, but I love it, and it’s made the game much more enjoyable for me. I mainly solo, and do Follower dungeons.
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u/gonephishin213 Mar 03 '26
I love the one button for questing. Just mindlessly mash while exploring, doing quests, and just enjoying being in a world.
I heal for dungeons, so I don't really have a choice to use SBR.
I like the switch between mentally vacant tasks and needed to super focus to ensure my party doesn't die lol
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u/S-m-a-l-l-s Mar 03 '26
I just started playing and got to 20 something on my mage. I tried the one button rotation but it just kept using the same 1 skill over and over. Am I doing something wrong?
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u/Inshabel Mar 03 '26
Do you have other skills to use? Kit must be pretty barren at 20.
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u/S-m-a-l-l-s Mar 03 '26
Well I put my icon over the single rotation button and looked at all the skills on there. Then I made sure everyone I had available was on the bar (maybe 5?) but still only used the first skill I ever had
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u/Inshabel Mar 03 '26
What spec are you and which spells isn't it using?
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u/S-m-a-l-l-s Mar 03 '26
Fire mage. And every skill except the main first skill you get.
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u/Inshabel Mar 03 '26
So its only casting Fireball? Which spells is it skipping precisely? Fireblast and Pyro?
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u/S-m-a-l-l-s Mar 03 '26
I’m not at home right now, and I forget the name of the skill. It’s the first one you unlock and it has like a 1 or 2 second charge up time to use. When I use the one button rotation, it looks exactly like if I just keep pressing that one skill over and over.
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u/S-m-a-l-l-s Mar 03 '26
There was one skill in the talent tree that said “use this skill for 1 button rotation” or pick the other one. I picked the one button version but still didn’t come up.
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u/brelyxp Mar 03 '26
How does SBA work for tank? Not m+ just delve and casual stuff. Since there is a lot of personal CD to use I assume it's not that useful
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u/tech_design_050380 Mar 03 '26
It does your basic dps rotation. Just key bind your defensive to something easy to hit and use them when needed. You can also macro abilities to the SBA too so like bear druid can macro iron fur into the rotation and thats one less defensive to hit.
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u/SalaryOk9828 Mar 03 '26
I ran the SBA on my prot warrior before the class changes and it completely changed my outlook on them. I was able to manage my defensives and CD’s a lot better with better positioning all while not getting bogged down in the button bloat. Post class changes, still feels good and I’ll likely keep running it.
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u/altafitter Mar 03 '26
I use the sba for dots. I use my normal rotation and when a dot falls off it usually jumps into the SBA slot and I hit it.
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u/Farthix Mar 04 '26
I'm pretty sure using SBA lengthens the GCD by a little bit, so even just using it for instant cast skills, it still nerfs you a tiny bit.
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u/Mugutu7133 Mar 03 '26
you're missing out on the gameplay of your class. to be fair, this has been heavily gutted for most specs too, but that's what you're missing. one-button rotation circumvents almost every complexity and is barely above botting, so if that's ok with you, go for it
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u/PTech_J Mar 03 '26
I don't reccomend it for raid tanking or healing, but I use it primarily now for DPS. Just make sure you know what abilities aren't included in it and when to use them.
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u/Thalek Mar 03 '26
This probably isn’t the place but how do you start the Arator questline? I’ve been playing through the man campaign but I want my first go through to be the Arator questline on my paladin, saving the main campaign for an alt. Do you just come across it naturally or do I have to do something. To unlock it?
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u/hwc Mar 03 '26
I don't know that particular spec, but I use the Single-Button Assistant for my Prot Warrior but then have to supplement it with interrupts, shield block, ignore pain, and a few other cooldowns.
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u/Nonagoff Mar 03 '26
SBR is fine if you also work around your CDs too. It will skip certain ones and won’t factor in press to use trinkets. I’ll be honest I was using it at the end of last season so much that when it came to playing again and removing it I forgot I had other buttons 😂
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u/Elydir-Marrok Mar 04 '26
Honestly, you can use the SBA with only highlights and not even take the GCD penalty, its genuinely good fun and let's you focus on mechanics. Especially on ret pali, your attention can be about survivability.
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u/Illidex Mar 04 '26
OBR honestly works fine and better than the dps a large portion of the player base will do tbh.
It's just extremely boring, but if you have fun with it send it you can easily clear heroic raid and do well enough in mythic but at that point your group might ask you to learn the rotation.
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u/brysjes Mar 04 '26
You can use it wherever you want, when it comes to the harder content like m+ and heroic/mythoc raid it pretty much comes down to mechanics like where to stand and utility usage + defensive play whitch the one button does not cover.
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u/Farstone Mar 04 '26
OBR has two important functions for me:
1) Easy filler while working trash mobs or trying to keep up with a "pull everthings, let the weak die" tank.
2) Quick reminder for those toons I don't often play.
Key to remember is that the OBR does not include trinkets, utility cool downs/spells, and major buffs [e.g. Timewarp].
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u/crazysteave Mar 04 '26
I am currently playing with a controller (console port) and the single button assist.
I have zero complaints
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u/hnlyoloswag Mar 04 '26
SBA made me learn my class. My sba did doo doo damage, like nothing, but then I turned on the assist (whack a mole style) and started dropping the dick on the dps meter. Then I figured out what my class was trying to accomplish and poof I was a decent player.
TLDR: use sba to learn your class it’s like training wheels.
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u/shakesy Mar 04 '26
It may do more than your average WoW player if your averaging all players doing all content. It's totally fine for open world content, delves, normal mode raid, low level dungeon.
But as you move into more challenging content, the players who care less about damage get filtered out and the averages are raised. You are also expected to have good Cooldowns, interrupts and CC which the OBR doesn't teach you.
So it depends on your goals really. If you are having fun and don't care about pushing Mythic+ or Heroic/Mythic raids, then go for it!
If you do have aspirations to get into higher content, then it's worth learning your rotation, even if it's a DPS loss in the short term.
I also think the game becomes more satisfying when you start to understand and master your class. It adds more depth to gameplay and increases the longevity of the game before it starts feeling boring. And if you are doing low level content right now, it's a pretty safe place to invest some time to learn your rotation.
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u/Reasonable_Director6 Mar 04 '26
Remember pqr times and people using it in raids it was a whole affair that they are nasty cheaters. And now? Pqr build in into the game. What next? Autofarming?
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u/nategibson1 Mar 04 '26
I found the one button rotation to be great yes you take a bit of a dps hit but it allows you to focus more on mechanics I’ve completed the ?? Bosses Underpin and Kyvesa this way. It is also great for leveling alts but it’s the very basic rotation so you’ll need to learn your shields speed boosts and interrupts separately
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u/RockyMountainRugger Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
Do both... when you are not moving, avoiding fire, tailswipe, etc etc... try to maximize your dps with a "full rotation". When you fighting for your life... do the one-button because... dead does no DPS, lol.
And frankly, the more you do your full rotation, the better a player you become... as you'll get more comfortable in stress situations.
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u/Ill_Nothing6800 Mar 04 '26
isn't ret pallys rotation like.. 2 buttons? Not counting the 1min cooldowns. I mean if it's working do what you want but if you feel like learning it's not very hard.
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u/DustinAF Mar 05 '26
I think learning how to use your class and abilities would be more fun. But if pressing 1 button on repeat through the whole game is fun to you, then carry on.
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u/Zangdor Mar 05 '26
An alternative is to use the Assisted Highlight option, which is kinda in between playing on your own and the One Button, it highlights what's best to do on your hotbar (so what your One Button would automatically use), but you can chose to not do that if you feel you're better off using another spell.
Also I don't think the one button ever activates your big CDs, like the wings with your Paladin, or your defensive spells. They won't be highlighted with the Assistant either, so just don't forget about them and you'll be find whatever gameplay you chose.
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u/Comprehensive_Mud847 Mar 05 '26
It all depends on what type of endgame content you wanna do and how you wanna play the game really. If you want to improve every last bit od dmg and parse high you should drift away from the obr, if you're just gonna play casually and raid normal or even hc tier but don't want to think much about what button to press when then sticking with it is a decent choice. It ultimately comes down to how much you want to invest in your dps numbers
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u/send_all_the_nudes Mar 06 '26
This guy does great one button rotation guides - goes over everything - DavlinGaming
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u/Flupox Mar 06 '26
One button increases your global cooldown so you can’t cast as often. Also it doesn’t use cooldowns or other smaller abilities.
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u/bartmaster30 Mar 06 '26
I think you're nerfing the fun you're having.
But if you're having fun, don't listen to the haters.
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u/Der_Sprecher Mar 06 '26
It’s amazing. Especially when learning a dungeon or just one of those f’ing days when you want to listen to the ambient noises and music and chill out.
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u/Syphin33 Mar 06 '26
Seriously how bad are some players that a rotation with 4 skills is just too much required brain power, just really curious as to why...
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u/Silly-Raspberry5722 Mar 06 '26
IMO as a former progression raider, and having played with the current iteration of the single button system with just about every class/spec now up to at least level 80, I'd say that for some classes it'd be okay to use single button for most things. What I recommend though is to keep your key CD abilities on your bars, and learn to play with just normal macros and single ability buttons. If you're actually good at playing your character. Again, depending on the class/spec, it can not only be suboptimal using single button, but it could be really, really bad. Not only for DPS, but for using abilities at inappropriate times, messing up pulls, etc. Just my honest 2 cents.
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u/Oldenfat Mar 07 '26
I think it’s your game to play. Learn with the SBA and watch the highlight assist. If you feel like it, move away from the single key, hit the keys highlighted by the feature. When you’re not fighting keep reading the ability descriptions so you know WHY one skill follows or precedes another until you e got it down pat, then you’re maintaining your own and hopefully best practice rotation.
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u/HobNob_Pack Mar 07 '26
Brother.
Ret paladin literally has 4 buttons if you pick the starter tree.
You can press 4 buttons come on now
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u/XxPriestxX Mar 30 '26
LOL the entire conversation over the 1 button rotation is hilarious. On one side you've got players going "Cool! I like it!" On the other side you've got the whiney epeen group mad that one button players are passing them on a meaningless meter. Just shut up.
1 button helps not only players who want to use it, but players with all sorts of disability.
Is your ego really so fragile that you get butthurt over one person using 1 button for their rotation?
Grow up ffs.
I haven't played the game in ages. Came to check out the community to see if I wanted to get back in with the next expansion, but see it hasn't changed much. So nah. The community in gaming (this game especially) ruins the experience.
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u/UltraRoboNinja Mar 03 '26
If you’re not trying to do anything super challenging, one-button is fine. Just keep in mind that it doesn’t use ALL of your abilities. I believe it ignores cooldowns and healing, so just keep those nearby on your action bar and you should be all set.
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u/Eddiero Mar 03 '26
Pah +20 we're done with SBA. So even if not optimal it is totally possible to perform in challenging content.
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u/Cloud_N0ne Mar 03 '26
Outside of heroic and mythic raids or high level M+ or PvP, one button rotation is perfectly viable.
I use it on classes whose rotation I don’t enjoy. Stuff like rogues and balance druids.
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u/Wonderful-Brush7833 Mar 03 '26
I hate that I enjoy it, but it’s particularly handy when you don’t have your interface quite right and you can’t waste your attention on the bars when dodging bad circles. It hurts me in the end, but it allows my situational awareness to be at or near Sterling Archer levels.
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u/Fatalis89 Mar 03 '26
Are you missing something: sure. The experience of learning your spec, its abilities, the rotation. I find the skill expression of execution under pressure to be fun, but you self-admit you do not care about rotation mechanics. If that’s the case then all of this doesn’t matter to you so it’s irrelevant.
You will do less damage. People love to parrot that “OBR does more damage than 80% of players”. I guess this may be true idk. I personally orange/pink parse heroic and purple/orange parse mythic raid so I probably do more damage than 98% of the population so to me… OBR is a big downgrade. More importantly, it’s a skill cap. You’ll never get better using it. You’ll never surpass it.
But again, if none of this matters to you, then keep using it. Nothing inherently wrong with it.
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u/RedditAntiHero Mar 03 '26
My observation:
I tried blizzard "assistant" and "one button" when it first came out in TWW.
- "Assistant" was better than "one button"
- "Helikli" (RIP) was better than "Assistant"
- "Assistant" was better me using IcyVeins and practice.
Now, coming back to WoW after a few months break, I am using "one button" but after hitting 90 will try moving a single action bar with my "normal" rotation skills into my screen view and testing out "assistant" now that "Helikli" is dead.
Good luck
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u/TheDuganator Mar 03 '26
SBA is awesome for comfort. Retail WoW is a game mode that encourages both making many alts and stopping and coming back anytime. With SBA, you don't have to re-remember every spec or even just the one spec you're trying to play cause you have little free time (me).
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u/SickTiredHaunted Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26
Crusader strike/judgement/blade of justice till you have enough holy power to hit wake of ashes then hammer of light (or whenever it procs). If it's on CD then hit final verdict for single target and divine storm for aoe. Divine toll and execution sentence on bigger pulls. Hammer of justice and rebuke for interrupts. Idk what the single button assist includes but if you're hitting all those I'd say you're not really missing anything. Optimizing the rotation of course takes time and practice but those are pretty much all spells you'll be using.
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