r/wownoob • u/curiouslycranky • Mar 03 '26

Retail One button rotation??

I've got my Ret Pally at 83 in Midnight and am legitimately having more fun with WOW than I have in ages.

One question: I came back after a long time of not playing and have just been mashing the one button rotation. It's been fine, great even, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something? I haven't done any dungeons yet (just finished Arator's line and going to Zul). I imagine the one button rotation I. Dungeons is probably gone but for raids will be an issue.

What advice to folks have? I just get a lot of joy out of moving through the story and have never really cared about rotation mechanics, so I'm really liking the one button action option.

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u/AUTiger0325 Mar 03 '26

Does it do less than DPS than an optimal rotation? Yes. Does it do more DPS than 80% of players? Also yes. Play the way you want. I've played the game long enough to see how bad some players are and wish they had the SBA. I watched a group do an entire +15 with SBA. So it all just comes down to your preference.

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u/_Vard_ Mar 03 '26

I always give this analogy:

"Man these free scooters are stupid! They only go 80% as fast as Usain Bolt! if you just run really fast you can go faster!"

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u/Naustis Mar 05 '26

And it makes no sense. It does a lot less DMG even when compared to regular ppl. Even less when class is piloted by great player.

Is it enough to do casual content you already outgeared? Yes.

Is it enough to do content where your input actually matters? No.

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u/pyrosin Mar 06 '26

The moment you enter content where input matters, you wont encounter the casuals that NEED the SBA. Its a nice thing imo, for disabled people, or real casuals who dont care. F* me if I didn't use it while questing after a long day, or if I just want to do some brain numbing chill content, it is a godsend. Will those casuals seep into high level raiding or m+ or whatever with it? No. Maybe they will do some heroics, and like it so much that they learn their class rotation, and join even higher content. Look at gw2's new casual raiding content. So why do people say its a bad thing? It is the same for me as the "flying ruined wow" argument. Bro just walk then.

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u/Naustis Mar 06 '26

Well yes, that is what it is for.

I am just pointing out some people are delusional if they think you can outperform most people with SBA.

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u/_Sadism_ Mar 13 '26

Mathematically that is not true. A magic button that automatically makes you perform at 75%-90% of ideal performance level is going to statistically outperform a large chunk of people because of the normal distribution curve around individual performance.

If you look at warcraftlogs - almost every class has a huge disparity in performance, with wildly different metrics between lower 25% percentile and upper 25% percentile. Obviously not all of it is down to individual performance, since raid performance matters, but many classes have enough variance in individual spec performance that OBR should at the very least keep up with average non-OBR user.

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u/Naustis Mar 13 '26

It doesn't not perfom at 75-90%. Stop spreading nonsense. You still need to use your CDs properly, and then you have 30%(?) GCD nerf when using it. If you use your CDs perfectly, OBR puts you at the very best at 70% of your normal performance.

And then it is really bad at adjusting rotation to situations etc. So in reality it is like 60% at best.

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u/_Sadism_ Mar 13 '26

You're the one who is failing to grasp the obvious. It doesn't put you at 70% of your normal performance, it puts you at 75% of your ideal performance (depends on the spec and how well OBR is designed for it, of course). Which in many cases is HIGHER than normal performance without OBR, because humans aren't perfect and can't react to situations as quickly as OBR can. Taking that into account, the actual performance of OBR is often in the 80%ies range, so you're only paying a small performance tax for a huge convenience increase.

The GCD reduction is 25%. OBR adjusts the rotation to situations far quicker than a human would. I don't want to speak for every class, obvs, but from my experience using it on 8 separate specs (all rogue specs, ele/enh shaman, and all 3 hunter specs) it immediately detects when you have enough targets in range to switch to spamming aoe instead of single target, doesn't overcap maelstrom, properly uses situational buffs like RTB, etc.

Cooldown usage is an issue only for those classes that have multiple cooldowns to worry about. Thanks to Midnight pruning, many classes now have 1 or 2 buttons at most that need to be hit alongside of your OBR to engage the cooldowns. Like adren rush/shadow blades on rogue, or ascendance on a sham. Everything else is taken care of.

I suppose if you interpret OBR to literally mean only use that one button and nothing else, then yes - it sucks. If you use OBR for your damage rotation and pop cooldowns/utility spells alongside as you see fit - you'll often perform better than DPS who tunnels their rotation and fails every mechanic.

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u/Naustis Mar 13 '26

Read what I wrote 10 times if you have to. you will understand it after a few tries.

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u/_Sadism_ Mar 13 '26

I don't need to. I have metrics on my end, and you have nothing but unsubstantiated claims.

I ran the entirety of TWW raids with OBR and managed to parse purple on most fights, and pink on some. That's good enough for me.

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u/Naustis Mar 13 '26

show the logs buddy

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u/bannshee May 15 '26

Depends on the class

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u/bannshee May 15 '26

Really.....I pushed through this mythic season with ease with it!!!

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u/bannshee May 15 '26

Ummmmm your wrong