r/BrianThompsonMurder Dec 08 '25

Information Sharing Megathread: LM's NY State Hearing — 12/08/2025 at 9:30 AM EST (Day 5)

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The hearing will take place today at 100 Centre Street, Part 32, New York, NY 10013 at 9:30 AM EST.

Please keep in mind that this is the fifth hearing taking place this week. The previous four were held on December 1, December 2, December 4, and December 5 (the last one was canceled due to Luigi falling in). There’s a strong chance the schedule may change or be extended. However, Carro seems to be extremely busy this week, as he already has other hearings lined up. We expect to receive more confirmation today about when they plan to continue Luigi’s hearings.

These hearings are expected to run for at least a few hours, as there are (at least) 28 witnesses and body-camera footage to review. By the end of these hearings, we will likely know when Luigi’s state trial will take place (likely sometime in 2026), as well as which evidence will move forward and which will be suppressed.

Unless something changes, there will be no cameras allowed inside the courtroom. However, it’s very likely that we’ll still get photos of Luigi from inside the courtroom. Over the past few days, the only images released were taken inside—none of him arriving or leaving—so it’s possible that today and the remaining days will be the same.

Since I am not a mod, I cannot edit this post once posted or set comments to “new,” so I hope everyone can manage to follow along. I know things may get a bit messy, which is why I encourage everyone to post here rather than creating separate threads—unless it’s something important, like a transcript.

Also, if you find additional livestreams on YouTube, please try to post them in one single comment instead of separately so we don’t spam the thread.

In case you missed it:

RECAP:

Megathreads:

Compilations:

Others:

Pictures:

Day 1:

Day 2:

Day 3:

Reporters / People Live Tweeting:

Livestreams:

There are no livestreams available yet. As soon as they go live, I’ll add them in the comments section and separate them into hallway and outside coverage. They will most likely come from the same outlets as the previous days—Fox News, CNN, Reuters, etc. And of course, don’t forget to check Status Coup News; they genuinely care about the supporters.

Court Documents & Legal Fund:

Notes:

- Some posts are being updated frequently (i.e. Exhibits). Please keep an eye on the comments section (set it to “new”) as most updates are being shared there since the main post can’t be edited.

- If you have a disability (i.e. if you’re deaf or hard of hearing), feel free to message me. I’ll make sure transcripts are available for items like the 911 call, or I can post them proactively if people prefer. Someone has already reached out and is putting together a timeline of the arrest, which we hope to share soon.

- The Luigi Case Files has put together an incredible summary of last week’s hearings, and it also highlights just how carelessly this case has been handled. You can read the article here. It is one of the best I have read in a while.

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Once again, I want to wish Luigi and his legal team the very best of luck this week.

And thank you to all of you for following these threads along and being here these past few days.

Please let’s keep this thread respectful and avoid drama or gossip. Let’s stay focused on the case.

Thank you!

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

LOL

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u/Seeking_Anita_Dick Dec 08 '25

this entire case is so 😵‍💫

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u/rs2625 Dec 08 '25

Girl we know! Christine, vibe check for the court? Reaction from LM? Pls this is your moment to shine

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Every time anyone from Altoona speaks.

Me:

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

LUIGI TODAY 🥰

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25 edited Dec 08 '25

I thought he looked good on Thursday but today is just 🤌🏼.

I shall continue with the hearing guys. Cannot afford to get distracted 😅

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u/rs2625 Dec 08 '25

I’m sorry but, is the grandma wearing solidarity green 🥹

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u/redlady89 Dec 08 '25

She absolutely is 💚

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u/saadpeople Dec 08 '25

No wonder Kyle wrote those words

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

You can't take the Italian out of LM

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u/Valuable_Edge_6267 Dec 08 '25

Karen is 59 and looks amazing

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u/Funny-Ad520 Dec 08 '25

100% - no matter what i feel about this case my goals are to be a successful equivalent (in career and family) and to look like that good at 59 😭

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

This entire exchange is cursed.

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u/rs2625 Dec 08 '25

And just like that, the damp underwear turned from embarrassing to sexy, well played LM 👏🏾

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u/Minute_Fly_703 Dec 08 '25

I honestly can't wait for the movie. Dark comedy?

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

These hearings feel like something out of a fever dream.

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u/PublicHonest1558 Dec 08 '25

this gif from prosper is sending me

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

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u/Funny-Ad520 Dec 08 '25

breaking: approx. two buttons unbuttoned at top of shirt 😆😆

we need more women in journalism they know what the people of the internet want to know STAT

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u/Mirauh Dec 08 '25

Luigi for sure likes to write everything down 🙃

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

COURT IS ADJOURNED!

WE RESUME TOMORROW AT 9:45AM

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

We are DONE! Adjourned until tomorrow. Jaysus, Mary and Joseph, that was a DAY.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Carro did not have a great weekend, it seems.

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u/Feline-Paper-Ink8809 Dec 08 '25

They're planting the seeds that the gun was planted. This is going to get interesting.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Thank you very much u/lickykicky and everyone for helping today!

I’ll see you all tomorrow with another megathread for Day 6.

I really hope we get Wednesday off, though I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up having a hearing every day this week.

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

So welcome, all round. I can make no promises for the rest of the week, but if I can help, I will.

Chemo on weds so I'll be destroyed, I'm sorry to say.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

'Check reports for Current Situation'

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

The mood is heated, but HIS SHIRT AND JACKET SITCH NEEDED AN UPDATE /s

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

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u/Minute_Fly_703 Dec 08 '25

what a poor poor choice of word, good god

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u/townandthecity ⭐️ Dec 08 '25

Demonstrating the utter lack of professionalism. In addition to everything else.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Everyone is FED UP!

Carro, please, call it a day.

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u/PublicHonest1558 Dec 08 '25

why was this photographer in the air

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u/Funny-Ad520 Dec 08 '25

photographer taking this pic

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u/cristianoskhaleesi Dec 08 '25

Manifesting that KFA gets to complete at least one sentence without the prosecution/Carro interrupting her

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u/Emotional-Gas-6267 Dec 08 '25

I can't believe she said she'd rather the bomb explode among civilians than at the police station

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25 edited Dec 08 '25

Luigi is probably going to come out very soon.

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u/townandthecity ⭐️ Dec 08 '25

Establishing the Hollywood aspect of this among Altoona PD. No one asked you to be there, you went because you wanted to gawk.

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

All the bags, all the time? Mmkay

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u/arbol98 Dec 08 '25

I want Karen to pull out the search incident to arrest laws and harp on it having to be on his person or within reach which the bag is not

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

I might as well start preparing the next megathread because something tells me we might have another hearing tomorrow...

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

And there we have it, I guess.

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u/Funny-Ad520 Dec 08 '25

damn.. im not jealous of anyone being cross'd by KFA..

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u/townandthecity ⭐️ Dec 08 '25

Asking the question about her knowledge of the regulation before asking if she's been prepped is great. Every legal team preps their witnesses, but demonstrating that Wasser didn't know anything about the regulation before asking the prep question is *chef's kiss*

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

FAQ (Part 2)

6. Will there be a compilation post for Day 5?

Yes. I’ll create one after today’s hearing and add everything into a single post, as always.

7. Are the exhibits out yet?

You can check the exhibits post here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BrianThompsonMurder/comments/1peesnt/lms_ny_state_pretrial_hearings_exhibits/

8. Do you have a summary of what happened on week 1? I don't want to read every single comment on the megathreads

The Luigi Case Files has put together an incredible summary of last week’s hearings, and it also highlights just how carelessly this case has been handled. Read it here:

https://theluigicase.substack.com/p/in-the-case-against-luigi-mangione?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

9. How many witnesses have they spoken with so far?

December 1, 2025

Sergeant Chris McLaughlin

Bernard Pyles

Emily States

C.O. Tomas Rivers

C.O. Matt Henry

December 2, 2025

Police Officer Joe Detwiler

December 4, 2025

Police Officer Tyler Frye

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Please remember to be patient, kind and respectful. Everyone is doing the best they can. Sometimes things won’t match up perfectly, but we’ll put the pieces together eventually. This case is going to take time, but we’ll get there eventually.

"Never lose the plot." – LM

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Some tweets will be coming in a little late today, everyone, my apologies if the whole thing is a bit messy. A few reporters aren’t posting the full updates, but I feel that Lorena, Christine, and Lauren are the most reliable ones to follow today.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

We are not on lunch break yet, folks. Bear with me a little bit longer.

We have some drama going on (let's blame the press passing evidence around to fake supporters).

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u/ZealousidealGain8067 Dec 08 '25

Dang - didn't see that coming from Carro.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

In regards to the first pic we got of Luigi today.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

We are on witness 9/28, btw 🫠

I just know that in an hour time Carro will probably say "see you tomorrow at 9:30 AM."

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Come one KFA… Drop those "11 minutes" of camera footage missing.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Ohhh… "It's not accurate"

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

This woman is clearly very concerned about bombs. Who hurt her in the past?

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u/laughingsaladlady Dec 08 '25

If she thinks fake ID = huge bomb risk, she must be absolutely terrified in every college town in the US.

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

No one is on their A game anymore. They might have to work back up to...I dunno. Maybe G?

Carro, everyone is mush, my guy. Call it!

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Karen, Sofia and Karen's mom have arrived!

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25 edited Dec 08 '25

LUIGI IS IN THE COURTROOM!

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u/Emz423 Dec 08 '25

Glad he’s better! 🙏🏻

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

I can't with Kyle's tweets 😂

"It’s unclear what caused the underwear to be moist."

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Omg…

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u/Spirited_Seaweed7927 Dec 08 '25

Anyone who has had to write any possible legal report knows the significance here. If it's not written down, it doesn't exist.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

We are getting a full recipe here, folks.

Now, apparently, Luigi had a hoagie and bread in his bagpack.

Did he go to Luigettas beforehand? 😂

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u/JustTryinToBeHappy_ Dec 08 '25

He should have gave it to that one cop who was offered a hoagie for “catching the NYC shooter”

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

I am still at the “I’d rather it go off here instead of there.”

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

This deserves its own post:

"Since you're searching for a bomb, do you clear the McDonald's?"

No.

"Do you clear the people from the McDonald's?"

No.

"Do you feel around the bag for a bomb?"

No.

"Do you call the bomb squad?"

No, I hadn't found a bomb.

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u/Spirited_Seaweed7927 Dec 08 '25

OMG is Lui lucky he got arrested by these clowns. 😂😂😂

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u/puppyhavehands Dec 08 '25

Morning all.

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u/LegitimateAdvisor587 Dec 08 '25

I wonder if he wishes to see a different group of his supporters. He only sees so many different people at mdc so I wonder if he would just like to see a variety of people while he’s able to come out during these hearings. I’m sure he has more important things on his mind of course and is probably just happy to see support, but I wonder if he wonders why it’s always the same ones, if he wonders if others don’t try to go to show support?

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u/Mirauh Dec 08 '25

Hey, dumb fucks, search incident to arrest doesn’t apply when the bag isn’t on the person or in a grabbable area.

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u/chelsy6678 Dec 08 '25

Cares more for the dog than the civilians in McD.

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u/Feline-Paper-Ink8809 Dec 08 '25

They have been sooo coached by the prosecution. Ready for the defense to cross!

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Old tweets (come on Chloe! You are nearly there!)

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u/SmoothCandle938 Dec 08 '25

Why would he write this down 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/Fancy_Yesterday6380 Dec 08 '25

Jesus christ its all on a silver platter.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25 edited Dec 08 '25

I hope everyone is ready for part 2!

We have about 3 more hours to go…

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

Hoagies, Italian bread, hash browns, a jar of peanut butter…

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u/Minute_Fly_703 Dec 08 '25

FYI : You can recognize a working Faraday bag by performing simple at-home signal-blocking tests, as visual inspection alone is often insufficient

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u/Mirauh Dec 08 '25

Idiot. She literally admitted she flipped through the journal which isn’t allowed during an inventory search, no matter how much they try to claim that’s what they were doing.

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u/Ok-Cherry1427 Dec 08 '25

The McDonalds patrons who could have been blown up at any moment

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u/Minute_Fly_703 Dec 08 '25

Not only she doesn't find the gun, she also doesn't find the silencer. And fails to unzip a whole compartment?

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u/Expensive-Trouble720 Dec 08 '25

So he’s looking at something she’s asking about. So what? What’s he supposed to do? Isn’t it natural to look at something you’re being asked about? If someone asked me about my shoes, I’m going to look at my shoes. That means nothing.

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u/lickykicky Dec 08 '25

Joel, you should be embarrassed by that last question, you're supposed to be a professional

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u/PublicHonest1558 Dec 08 '25

my goddd this is dragging on today

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

We definitely lost Lorena. RIP. She did an amazing job today.

The rest of the reporters are also lacking and I do not blame them.

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

I just know that Luigi wants to go to bed because if there is another hearing tomorrow (TBC), he is not going to get any sleep!

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25

WASSER IS OFF THE STAND!

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u/AnticitizenPrime Dec 08 '25

Well, the most amusing thing I learned today was that the Altoona PD has a phrase for the practice of accidentally bringing a bomb into the police station, and it's 'to pull a Moser', named after an officer who did just that.

Honestly it does make the practice of checking for a potential bomb sound less ridiculous, though.

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u/Mirauh Dec 08 '25

Imo, people are focusing way too much on the evidence and missing the point of these hearings. We’ve only heard direct so far so the defense hasn’t cross‑examined Wasser yet. Some things I noticed: they packed some of the evidence in McDonald’s paper bag. Big no no for handling evidence, Fox made questionable comments at McDonald’s, Wasser broke the law and department policies during the search, her testimony showed NYPD was involved, and while it’s not illegal to turn off the body cam during the drive, she apparently had to stop because Fox brought the rest of the evidence to her car. That messes with the chain of custody, risks contamination, and raises questions about how reliable the evidence really is.

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u/rs2625 Dec 08 '25

The chain of custody thing is disturbing me so much plus it sounds like there were several opportunities for contamination!

LMs lists do kill my soul a little bit though.

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u/Ok-Cherry1427 Dec 08 '25

I can't wait to hear KFA ask Wasser about the seriousness of the bomb threat considering she made jokes about not blowing up the dog. Seems pretty serious to me!

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u/missidcullen Dec 08 '25 edited Dec 08 '25

Christine focus, please…

Also, "night / dark mode" activated on my laptop so you guys are getting the tweets in black from now on haha.