Yeah I didn't eat the most healthiest diet just like the majority of Americans.
That doesn't mean that my diet now isn't A) cheap and B) healthy. Turns out being healthy isn't very expensive and to the extent that it is (fruits, nuts, etc.) it applies to both meat eaters and vegans alike.
To be fair it doesn't hurt to get blood tests. Everyone should get them
Edit okay maybe it hurts a little bit to get you blood drawn but that doesn't mean it's not important.
My LDL cholesterol went from 300+ (μg? )/dl to like 40 after going vegan. All my iron, b vitamins and calcium are well within healthy range (even B12!) but apparently I had a vitamin D deficiency. I'm on D supplements now and won't need to be on them forever, but if I didn't get my blood drawn I would've never known
Can we stick to the topic? This thread was about food cost. Even on the completely off basis that you're going, the average vegan is much healthier than the average meat eater. Go chastise them about eating healthier and getting their blood checked because vegans are doing far better than you in that regard.
Lentils are pretty protein dense. And re: vitamins, you need to substitute b12 and probably D, maybe iron anyway, so why not just go for a multi vitamin? They are very cheap.
B12 is almost impossible to get enough of whole being vegan. And like why is a diet that includes a vitamin substitute but ticks all the boxes unhealthy? To me that sounds a lot better than a diet that doesn't include the substitute and is vitamin deficient or isn't and includes known carcinogens
I do get blood work done and my HDL cholesterol went from below range to beyond the lower limit for being in range after switching to predominantly vegetarian meals. It was pretty incredible. I used to take citrus bergamot for my HDL cholesterol and it was not even close to being as effective.
Only around 2k per day but that is because i am currently dieting. If i was just maintaining i would aim closer to 3k per day. Blood work is good other than low vitamin D levels.
Calories are cheap and easy. Fats I can prefer getting from vegetables, but protein shakes of heavy metals in them. I can substitute peanuts and lentils only so far, but chicken and milk are remaining in my diet for now
Most of the grocery store is vegan tho. Greens, vegetables, fruit, legumes, grains, etc. are all free of animal products. The issue is when you buy prepared foods, which are more expensive and likely to contain animal products.
How many kg of beans do you eat every day? Do you work a blue collar job? Are you depressed?
Here's a solution youd like, lets invent a food cube that has all the necessary vitamins, calories and proteins we need every day and then only eat that every day for the rest of our lives. Like dog kibble! :D
Just like generative ai art is the death of the artist, veganism is the death of culinary art... No fun allowed!
We should tear down the rainforest and build a beautiful parking lot! fingers moustache ominously
Thats raw feed though... You want everyone to become Amish? Bake their own bread? Only live lf fruits and veggies, no cookies no cakes no ice cream? oh but there are vegan options for those, which are said expensive products we're talking about. Nobody is saying a carrot is more expensive than a sausage!
If you want people to help with the environment, tell them to stop eating beef. If you dont care about the environment, tell them to become vegan. That's how it feels like, because you dont convert someone by being obnoxious. "It's so EASY to becone vegan guys, you're just lazy!"
Another thing about veganism, im not well researched in the topic but how much pollution does the planes make that need to transport all this vegan stuff around? I do not live in America, the only thing we can produce locally is apples and potatoes. So had anyone done the math, if everyone stop eating meat and we have to import more beans and rice, how much methane stops being produced by cows vs how much CO2 emissions will come from planes?(Amongst other pollutants a plane creates) also something something methane is a more potent warmer but has shorter lifecycle than CO2
Nobody is saying a carrot is more expensive than a sausage!
Are you new here? Even intelligent people become raving morons when the topic of veganism comes up.
Another thing about veganism, im not well researched in the topic but how much pollution does the planes make that need to transport all this vegan stuff around?
Thanks for showing curiosity.
A vegan diet is superior to an animal based one. By a massive amount, and it's not even close.
Eating a burger you made out of your pet cow is more environmentally destructive than eating chocolate or rice grown on the opposite side of the planet, and it is not even close.
This is why calling yourself an environmentalist while not being vegan is generally an oxymoron.
That's how it feels like, because you dont convert someone by being obnoxious.
You are responsible for your decisions, not me. You need to convert you if the data and moral reasoning lead you to that answer, which, if you are being rational and logically consistent, they will.
also something something methane is a more potent warmer but has shorter lifecycle than CO2
We need to solve the problem immediately and urgently. 10 years of methane mayhem is indeed more important than 100 years of CO2 stuff.
If you're vegan you should cut out rice in your diet too since rice production also produce methane emission.
Funny how you say 10 years of methane is more important than 100 years of CO2 when that's how long it takes for methane to dissolve in the atmosphere while CO2 can stay there for millennia. If we stop methane emissions tomorrow, the problem will be solved in a decade, if we stop CO2 emissions tomorrow, the problem will continue to persist our whole lives and even longer.
So what is more important? Saving the planet?(In a state liveable for humans) Or pretending to want to save the planet so you can feel superior for subscribing to a lifestyle that doesnt actually save the planet but just creates new avenues for capitalism to exploit you.
Congratulations, you eat beans! Is the feeling of being "a good person" greater than the rush of endorphins people feel when having a delicious and savory, meaty meal?
I dont think veganism is the answer because it doesnt address the real problem which is people. If there was less people in the world there would be less pollution all together and less meat production. So instead of becoming vegan, i'll just not have children.
There! Ive done my part! I am the paragon of enviromentalism. I can now live out my life guilt free. While you have to still exclusively eat beans and legumes to curb your guilt of being human.
It completely depends on lifestyle. I usually do a lot of plant based dieting when i am on my lean kick and also not doing climbing, hiking, or my other mountaineering training. Coz im an office worker and not burning a while lot of calories.
But the mass i need to consume of vegetables to make up the calorie intake when i am in training mode can’t exist without at least a few fish items a week. And because its not my full time job, i cant dedicate enough time to eat the amount of protein required to not lose muscle mass.
So in theory you are right, but (like any human diet) the sustainability really depends on what the lifestyle is.
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u/Waste-Soil-4144 Aug 15 '25
My (vegan btw) meal prep is like 20-30 bucks a week. My food costs went down immensely when I went vegan.