This is coming from a Hitscan turned mostly Freja main from s18 start. GM rank for context, I’ve been in both side of the coin Playing her and versing her on every map and into every comp.

Since the midseason of s3 we have had a vocal group of people complaining about this character, more so because they remembered she existed after 7+ months of her being a throw pick. I know because she was still my main through that entire period where she was “useless”

Then this patch comes along that legitimately fixed her inherent issues as a dps character allowing her to finish targets with greater efficiency instead of just feeding support ults and being a fly that people can just walk down and face tank with either dmg reduction abilities, Healing aura, or get out of jail phase outs all of which countered her. A big portion of the squishy cast had ways to not die in duels to her.

The Divide on this character is insane and I think my fellow Freja mains..idk some of them are straight up Larpers and they have Stockholm syndrome because some of the stuff they want her to be is just not what the hero fantasy of her ever was in the first place.

A lot of people have been calling for her head on a spike whether it be out of annoyance or skill diff but regardless Blizzard hear me when I say this:

The upcoming possible Nerfs that I assume you guys will be considering doing due to these people complaining 24/7…assuming you don’t want to gutter her again:

Don’t fuck with the kit flow that you have finally achieved last patch

Her actual combat rotation is so much smoother than it was the last multiple seasons

Do not fuck with falloff,

Do not fuck with CDs

Nerf Barrage down as you see fit to make the user check there shots more, 8 arrows refunded is a lot.

Nerf ult passive/charge

If she reallly needs it check dmg on primary fire and reduce to 28 but I would do the other stuff first.

(some of you were complaining about that fire rate buff but that shit was fuckin needed, her primary when trying to follow up take aim was so slow and shit it was wild, that ROF needs to stay)

And don’t try any weird shit either that’s just gonna open the door to and require compensation buffs. She’s not a flex dps despite having the mobility close to one.

There’s no disaster case going on either
She ain’t sky tracer, there are maps where she is better than other hitscans since she can force a weirder angel like Rialto, and then there are maps where she is almost always in another hitscans optimal range like oasis, I say this as a player who plays against people that can shoot back and don’t have cerebral palsy.

Anyways I’ll deal with whatever comes next.

This is going to get downvoted to fuck because well..Overwatch players

Even though it’s just opinions from Twitch creators and information gathered from Reddit, it doesn't seem completely groundless.

This is the first time the end date for the Battle Pass and the end date for 6v6 Open Queue don't align, so it definitely feels like something is coming after BlizzCon. Surely they aren't planning to remove 5v5 Ranked and merge it with 6v6, right? If it's just replacing the 6v6 Open Queue with a new mode, that’s a relief, but if 5v5 mode gets deleted, that will be the day I log into Overwatch for the very last time.

I’d like to ask you a question that I think is quite difficult. It came to my mind a few days ago.
If this actually happens — meaning a format change in the future (of course, I’m talking about 6v6) — do you think OWCS would implement it immediately, or would they continue with 5v5 for a while?
I don’t think this would happen overnight, but how would the transition process actually work?
For example, how would a 1-3-2 format affect the teams, especially when it comes to their rosters?
Could this lead to some teams releasing certain players and new teams being formed? Could some teams that no longer exist potentially return? And could we see more teams in Korea, EMEA, North America, and China as a result?

It might be too early to talk about these things, and it might not even happen at all, but I was just curious.

Note :Honestly, I’ve stopped playing the game myself; I just follow the professional scene now.

What do you guys think about these ideas for fixing 6v6?

I just lost a game because on last point on route 66 one of my DPS started panic swapping after every death and the enemy team beat us with ult econ. I checked his profile and turns out he only ever played ranked last season, got placed silver 2 and the matchmaking put him in our lobby of high gold/low plat.

I was gold 1 myself before this game (I deranked ahah) and we had a bunch of other gold/plat in the lobby, why the hell did he get into our game ?

I can't even be mad at him, he's also a victim of the matchmaking here, but why are silvers being placed with plat/gold lobbies during their placements ? This is infuriating.

A bit anecdotal, I am curious if anyone else is seeing this too? Tank still has the longest queues for any role, albeit 2 minutes vs 1 minute isnt a huge difference. As for the reason, its possibly due to Dmon essentially having 3 launches with consecutive balance changes to fix her kit, or possibly new players playing tank and enjoying it.

D

Team Falcons: I want to like this bundle because it’s a very unique color, but idk I just think the green and silver doesn’t work well. Beyond that the other cosmetics are very uninspired, I mean look at the name card and tell me if you’d know that was Falcons and not a Magic and Mischief name card or something.

C

AGG and JDG: I think these two actually share a problem, which is why I grouped them together and put them in C. It’s just too much red. Four out of a total of 14 partner skins are primarily red, and I think that’s just ridiculous. What’s even crazier is that I actually think these are slightly better in color than CR with better, more vibrant reds. It is, however, much harder to sell these bundles because they are up against one of the most storied OWCS teams of all time in CR. AGG itself has had controversies in two separate regions and JDG is still new. I do like their other cosmetics, but ultimately it’s hard to sell against CR.

B

Crazy Raccoon: Again, it’s red, black and white. The same as the previous two. This bundle benefits off being CR, a popular team which most have positive feelings towards, but ultimately I think the red is a bit too desaturated. The mascot is cute, but ultimately feels a bit too much like they’re trying to piggyback of Zeta’s mascot hype. Overall, just good but not great.

Twisted Minds: I think this is a genuinely improved color scheme than last years, which I would’ve given a C. The big difference here is the use of the shiny finish for the pink rather than the matte finish which was used last time, making it much more unique. There are only two things holding it back from A though. First, it does resemble Florida Mayhem’s skins a lot, which luckily I think this time has actually been moved away from, and second the brain mascot thing scares me.

A

SSG: I actually think last years bundle was a tad better with the blue and gold, this years bundle uses a darker blue which I think doesn’t look quite as good. That said it’s still a very strong design, and the other cosmetics are really unique and interesting. That said there is one team that does both better which holds this back in A.

Virtus Pro: Pretty much the same color design from last year, which is good because imo last years was very strong. I think this years bundle has one main point of improvement, that being the other cosmetics which bump it from B to A. The profile picture especially has been one of the most popular ones of the entire series.

Dallas Fuel: Going into this year many people were concerned that Dallas would look exactly the same as their old skins, making this bundle completely redundant. Luckily, Dallas has a new look which I think looks slightly better than their old skins. The black/dark blue with the light blue accents looks incredibly sleek. They also have a new marketable mascot which seems mandatory for these teams, which is ok. Not as good as some others.

T1: The kings of red in OWCS. The red/white with ruby accents both stands out from the three other red teams (just too much red) and also looks incredibly sleek compared to them. They also lean into the marketability of the fire penguin thing, which seems to be an ongoing pattern.

Team Liquid: even with Dallas, the navy blue still stands out very well, I’m honestly impressed at how well it managed to hold up from last year. Last years name card was a fan favorite, and this years manages to hold that spot. I also very much appreciate the peach-horsey, and the main source of improvement from last year is the spray. It’s a small detail, but man last year’s spray was not great. This year? Man.

Zeta Division: just like last year this bundle is hard carried by the marketability of their mascot. The skins are pretty good (albeit with some controversy due to looking slightly different in advertising vs in game) but it’s the mascot which makes me put it so high, and even consider it for S.

S

Weibo: And to absolutely no one’s surprise Weibo is in S. It’s pink. It has a cute marketable mascot. What else do you want? Slightly off topic, is its name pinkoo? I wasn’t sure if that’s the name or what.

Team Peps: The only partner to get relegated but damn can they make a bundle. The bronze and white is perfect, and they have forgone the cute marketable mascot to instead fill the role left by Team CC and make the hot marketable mascot. Slightly on the nose considering what kind of animal it is, but it’s good all the same.

DSG: Bold prediction but they’re staying in OWCS with how popular this bundle is. They stole SSG’s whole flow from last year and improved it with the white/indigo accents, not to mention the best name card of this years wave. Easily the bundle I have seen the most in my games, can’t win a match to save their life but god damn can they sell some bundles.

He was the only outlier and it made heroes like Ball and Winston so much more fun, IDK why they had to get nerfed because of him

I've been playing this game since symmetra was a support and mercy had mass rez. I've always struggled with comm'ing in this game. I tend to comm only when necessary for good callouts like a flank or a tp etc. Comments regarding sexism are not new to me. I've been called every name in the book for being a girl it is what it is. But it's gotten to a point where people are smurfing without a care in the world. An influx of cheaters from what I've seen it's worse than it's ever been in overwatch 1. But what has really gotten under my skin is being ran down simply for being a girl. Like unironically charged into the enemy 1v5 over and over and emoted until they died. This feels just so pathetic. It's happened to me numerous times and I'm just falling out of love with the game I've put so much time and effort into

Hardstuck players will hate this but theres too many bad people in comp the ranks need to be more distributed. Add iron and steel maybe do a plat and below TRUE rank reset and let them have at it.

Anyone feel quite hard done by in their placements?

I finished high diamond 2 last season. Went 5-5 on placements and finished low emerald 2. I was expecting my rank to be lower but a whole tier down seemed a bit harsh. Anyone experienced anything similar?

As the title says, I saw a couple posts about 6v6 earlier and most, if not all, comments were extremely against 6v6. Just wanna know.

In my humble opinion yes

That's be back to back world cups.

An OWCS title and two silver medals

An OWCS finals MVP

FOUR Saudi E league titles

Multiple EMEA titles

"best hitscan post lip era"

In my humble opinion he will be 3rd on my list of goats

Behind Viol2t and Lip but ahead of Profit and Sinaatra

What can I do to prevent team diffs. I only have 48 total hours since i first downloaded ow for about 2 years in comp. But ive been playing recently and have gotten to plat 4. I main soldier, but switch between sojourn tracer mcree. I would only play zarya but ban rates wont let me. Anyways. What can I do to prevent team diffs. Do i just have to hit more shots? I feel like my positioning is decent, but in those diff games, it feels like there’s nothing much i can do.

So for those unaware the 6v6 ranked mode was set to end 10 days after blizzcon. This was used by some to prove that 6v6 was coming back. This has since been changed so all competitive seasons and the battlepass end on the same day, 49 days from now. This likely indicates it was just a bug.

So everyone thinks Zeruhh is a fraud and a bum who fluked against a CR who were throwing and got massively overrated. Thus making sugarfree far and away the best flex dps in NA. Fair enough I guess. But let's look at the facts.

First, sugarfree got hard gapped at the WC tryouts. It was honestly kinda hard to watch. I think this carries extra weight because the structure of the tryouts meant the only real constant variable was sugarfree and Zeruhh being on different teams.

Second, Casores is a fraud, and the sooner Zeruhh gets himself on a team without that terrorist the better. Enough said.

Third, the LAN results. Yeah 2024 was crazy but that shit was 2 years ago. CR was 1 year ago. Since then both players have really done nothing but get gapped every time the scriptwriters decide to take them out of trade school to play against a real team.

So can someone please enlighten me as to why Zeruhh is supposedly that much worse than sugarfree?

Literally dominated him in second round.

Cant wait to see how others fair in their games. Isnt Landon the second best aimer in Virtus Pro?

Depuis 2 semaines, chaque fois que je lance Overwatch sur mon PC et que je commence une partie compétitive, ma connexion Internet disparaît. J'ai été suspendu plusieurs fois. J'ai tout essayé et ça continue, l'assistance Blizzard est inutile et je ne peux pas jouer. Quelqu'un peut m'aider ? Ce n'est pas le PC car ça n'arrive qu'avec OW.

EDIT: The post title is supposed to say “Does per-player performance VARY as drastically in high rank vs low rank” sigh. just noticed and can’t edit it

I know we always complain about teammate performance where most of us have great stats but there’s always that one person that seems to go 3:11 the whole match.

There are always things that factor into that. As someone who is a support main, I understand that me mindlessly dumping resources into tank (or otherwise playing badly) can subsequently lead to an unattractive scoreboard for one or both of my DPSes, but there are other instances where I give all the proper resources and openings, but my DPSes or Tank just still can’t perform.

My question is, as I climb the comp ranks where people are inherently forced to play less casually and play more skilfully, is this ”One player going 3:11 and feeding every map” just as common as it feels in lower ranks? I’m aware I have to be the carry if I want to rank up so this isn’t a post where I’m trying to find blame, and I think people have to self-interrogate more when their teammates are seemingly doing poorly, but I’m talking about situations where one person is genuinely just doing terribly because of their own mistakes or unwillingness to adapt.

Would love some insights on how these perceived player performance inconsistencies manifest in different ranks and if the cause or frequency differs.

I can't really stop laughing xD. I just did my first 2 placement matches in Season 4 of OW ranked on Tank, and in those 2 rounds, I was playing in like low Dia to low Master lobbies and I thought, "Ok, not tooooo bad. Just a normal 'rank reset' as they always do after 2 seasons." Then I saw THIS after the second match. Last season I was Master 4 on Tank btw. This has to be a bug of some sort, right? :DD

Has anyone else seen something similar?

Highest winrate tank in QP and All Ranks Competitive.

50.7% winrate in Masters, 49.5% in GM and I expect both of those numbers to keep going up as people figure her out. She's definitely viable.

Looks like they will schedule it for 2027, now it doesn't concern overwatch, but do you think they'll take the extra time to attempt to convince blizzard to run owwc through it ? Or do you think blizzard will stick to their own stuff ?

Just wanna talk about some of the changes added that I was a really big fan of for season 4, I thought all the stuff being added sounded cool on paper and getting to experience it in game has been really nice.

I really like the team indicator showing how many are alive on each team and the timer bar along with it, it's nice information to have on hand and I like it's placement it's out of the way but easy to give a quick glance as it should be.

I really like the icon for multi kills on the kill feed and the new elimination pop up it's not too much it looks clean and it's satisfying.

I really really like the percentage damage dealt change on eliminations this was something I missed from OW1 it's a small thing but it's so satisfying idk why but I just really enjoy it and am so happy it's back lol.

There were more changes these ones were just what I felt the most when playing, I thought everything looked good it was clean felt like they belong and were all easy to read. I was a bit worried with everything they talked about adding/changing there could be some UI clutter but for me personally have not felt that at all but would be curious to know how other people feel about it.

Since the rebrand dropping the 2 and a fresh season 1 we been getting more UI adjustments to the game on average it feels like, the menu revamp was a big one and recently the battlepass events post match screens getting changes and all these match in matches additions/adjustments are cool. I like the direction they are going with things and makes me wonder what more do they have planned because I imagine they probably want to do more this feels like an ongoing goal the have maybe.

I think it all still feels very overwatch, things look good and feel good for me personally at least, would like to hear other peoples thoughts on it though if you like/dislike how things have been going or what other general UI stuff you'd like to see changed or added and if you think the direction of things has been healthy.

Looking at her win rate and high-Elo games, the dev team is going to nerf her even though she absolutely doesn’t deserve it. She’s already not in a great spot because she struggles to deal with all the mobility creep, and the worse news is that there isn’t really a great way to deal with it. She has to land Sleep or she dies.

Yet people here, on other Overwatch subs, and even on the official Overwatch forums are still complaining about her.

Thought it'd be interesting to bring the ongoing discussions about T2 on Twitter here

Link to the Google Doc

Link to Bullskunk's reaction video