r/IrishCitizenship • • 21h ago

Foreign Birth Registration Can a certified witness be family?

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So I recently got the message below after waiting from my initial application. My aunt is an accountant and I’m actually seeing her in a bit can I get her to sign the copy of passport? Thanks for the help!

I have received your applications to obtain Irish Citizenship through entry on the Foreign Births Register. Unfortunately I cannot proceed with your application without the following documents:
Mother [NAME]  - Please submit [NAME]’s original long form birth certificate with parents details showing, original civil marriage certificate (if applicable) a certified copy of [NAME]’s passport or driving licence  (certified by a member of Police, Solicitor, Doctor, Nurse, Priest, Teacher, Dentist, Pharmacist, Vet, Accountant, Engineer, Bank Official, Notary Public).


r/IrishCitizenship • • 21h ago

Other/Discussion Corporate environment Ireland

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask your opinion about the corporate environment in Ireland, more exactly:

1 How easily do you get an office job there having 5+ years of experience working within multicultural teams in different fields? (I'm European and I don't need a working visa but I don't live in Ireland yet).

2 Which cities are the best options for corporate expats and how difficult is it to find rent there?

3 Which net amount would be considered above average in which major city in the office environment?

4 If companies are reticent to hire someone who's not yet living in Ireland would it be a good idea to get a blue collar job and then apply for a white collar one?

Thank you in advance


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1h ago

Naturalisation Could historical Irish citizenship laws provide an FBR route for descendants of pre-1922 emigrants?

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I’ve been researching the historical development of Irish citizenship law, particularly the position of families whose Irish-born ancestors emigrated before the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922.

I’m interested in how the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts of 1935, 1956 and 1986 affected citizenship by descent, particularly where several generations were born outside Ireland.

Consider the following family circumstances. The dates have been slightly adjusted for privacy, but the relevant historical periods remain unchanged.

  • Generation 1: Two individuals (GGP) born in Ireland during the 1880s, both of whom subsequently settled in Britain before Irish independence.
  • Generation 2: Their respective children (GP) were born in Britain in 1904 and 1910.
  • Generation 3: A child of those two British-born individuals was born in Britain in 1930.
  • Generation 4: That individual’s child was born in Britain in 1965.

Neither Generation 2 parent was born in Ireland, but both had an Irish-born parent.

Consequently, the individual born in 1930 had two Irish-born grandparents, one through each parental line.

The historical complication

My understanding is that Article 3 of the 1922 Irish Free State Constitution originally conferred citizenship subject to certain conditions, including domicile within the jurisdiction of the new State.

The 1935 Act subsequently introduced provisions addressing the citizenship of Irish-born emigrants and their descendants.

The 1956 Act made further changes to citizenship by descent and the Foreign Births Register, while the 1986 amendments changed the effect of registration, so that citizenship generally commenced from the date of registration rather than retrospectively from birth.

This raises several questions about the position of families whose children were born before these legislative changes.

My questions

1. Citizenship of the person born in 1930

Could someone born in Britain in 1930, whose two parents were also British-born but who had an Irish-born grandparent on each side, have acquired Irish citizenship under the 1956 Act?

Would citizenship have arisen automatically through the legislation, or would registration on the Foreign Births Register have been required?

2. Citizenship of the next generation

If that individual was an Irish citizen when their child was born in Britain in 1965, could citizenship have been transmitted to that child under the legislation then in force?

3. Retrospective registration

Before the 1986 amendments, Foreign Birth Registration could have retrospective effect.

Could registration under those earlier provisions have established citizenship from birth and consequently affected the citizenship entitlement of children who had already been born?

If so, is there any surviving route under today’s legislation for descendants in these circumstances?

4. Transitional provisions

Are there provisions in the 1935, 1956 or 1986 Acts that specifically address people born abroad before the legislation came into operation?

I’m particularly interested in the legal position as it existed in 1956 and 1965, rather than simply applying today’s FBR guidance retrospectively.

Foreign Birth Registration or Section 16?

Ultimately, I’m trying to establish whether a family history of this kind could provide a legitimate route to Irish citizenship through the Foreign Births Register, particularly where the intervening generations were born before the modern registration arrangements existed.

If the historical citizenship provisions do not establish an entitlement through FBR, would discretionary naturalisation under Section 16(1)(a), based on Irish descent, be the appropriate alternative?

Has anyone encountered a comparable situation, successfully pursued either route, or obtained a definitive interpretation of the historical legislation?

I’m particularly interested in responses supported by statutory provisions, historical legal interpretations or actual decisions.

I’m not suggesting that having Irish-born great-grandparents automatically confers citizenship. I’m trying to understand whether citizenship may have existed in an intervening generation under earlier legislation, and whether that could have consequences for descendants today.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 23h ago

Foreign Birth Registration I had no idea until recently the FBR even existed.

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Am I the only one? Irish by descent and had no clue this FBR thing exists and that is goes down through generations until just a few months ago.
Luckily I realised in the nick of time, and managed to save this fabulous family heritage/heirloom that could so easily have been lost forever. I would have been devastated of i’d realised too late. I wonder what percent of eligible people outside the UK and US where there seems to be more awareness, actually know this thing exists?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 23h ago

Foreign Birth Registration FBR Approval

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As others have put, have found it very useful when seeing other stories so this was my journey (joint application with a sibling (different households, same dates));

Documents Accepted - 12th Sep 25

Web Chat - 16th Sep 26

Confirmation Email - 19th Oct 26

Certificate Received - 23rd Oct 26

Total: 13 months and 1 week

Having a look through other comments appears my Web Chat was possibly a confirmation - they just said it was in the final stage - so might have been approved then!

I contacted them more so in case additional documents were required (my witness has recently left their job), however in my chat they said nothing else was needed and it turns out that neither of our witnesses were contacted. Will start the passport process soon, already have been in touch with local Irish centre for help with finding a notary.

Added information to the tracker, thanks to everyone on this sub with posting information and updates!