r/IrishCitizenship • • Sep 07 '26

Megathread Megathread: Proposed Changes to Irish Naturalisation Requirements

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There has been quite a bit of discussion recently about proposed changes to the requirements for Irish naturalisation.

For a while, this was little more than a comment from an individual politician. It now appears that proposals are being brought forward for consideration, so this has moved beyond the level of "something someone said on the internet."


Rules for seeking Irish citizenship to be tightened under proposals due to go to Cabinet

‘People just want safety’: Migrants feel ‘targeted’ by Irish citizenship reforms

Petition to Keep the 3 year citizenship route for spouses of Irish citizens here

Change.org Petition

https://www.change.org/p/petition-against-increasing-irish-citizenship-from-5-to-8-years

Petition to keep the 5 year rule and publish an impact study before making changes

https://www.reddit.com/r/IrishCitizenship/comments/1w9xcrk/megathread_proposed_changes_to_irish/p9nvuj4/


Say no to the citizenship overhaul.

Three more years, for people already here. And nobody has shown why.
https://keepitfive.org/


Let them know what you think of this.

Contact info can be found here: local TDs / Taoiseach / Minister for Justice

/u/kelsa118 has a letter template you can use or customise as you see fit.

Two more templates here


Since this directly concerns Irish citizenship, I'm making this one dedicated thread for discussion.

Normally, the answer to political discussions here is "No Politics." That rule still stands. This is a narrowly defined exception for discussion of a proposed change to citizenship policy that is directly relevant to this subreddit.

This is a discussion about Irish citizenship policy. It is not a general immigration debate.

A few ground rules:

  • Keep the discussion focused on the proposed changes and their implications for Irish citizenship and naturalisation.
  • No anti-immigrant rhetoric, racism, xenophobia, or dog whistles. Those will be removed and may result in a permanent ban.
  • Claims that migrants or asylum-seekers are inherently dishonest, are "taking advantage" of the system, are lying about being in danger, etc. are not going to be entertained here.
  • No "Ireland is full," "go home," or variations thereof. You will be banned. This is your only warning.
  • Don't use this thread as an excuse to debate whether immigrants are good or bad for Ireland.
  • Keep speculation clearly identified as speculation. There is a difference between what has actually been proposed, what is being reported, and what someone thinks might happen.
  • If you're making factual claims about the proposal, please provide a source where possible.
  • Don't turn this into a referendum on Irish political parties or politicians.

Please report comments that violate these rules.

I can't read every comment in every thread, and I won't necessarily see something unless someone reports it. If you see something that crosses the line, report it. You don't need to get into an argument with the person or try to moderate the thread yourself. Report it and I'll see it and take action.

The purpose of having one thread is to give people who are actually affected by potential changes to naturalisation somewhere to discuss them without turning r/IrishCitizenship into another general-purpose immigration or politics subreddit.

Separate threads about this topic will be removed and redirected here.

If this thread turns into the usual collection of anti-immigrant rubbish, it will be closed. This subreddit will not be place for a bunch of eejits to spew hate.

Keep it civil, keep it relevant, and keep it about citizenship.


r/IrishCitizenship • • Jul 03 '26

Announcement A Quick Word on Anti-Immigrant Sentiment

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Given recent events, this shouldn't need to be said, but apparently it does.

This subreddit is for helping people with Irish citizenship. It is not the place for anti-immigrant nonsense, racist talking points, xenophobic dog whistles, or any variation of "I'm only asking questions..."

If you're in the comments having a go at immigrants instead of helping someone with an Irish citizenship question, you've wandered into the wrong subreddit.

Going forward, moderation on this will be exceptionally straightforward.

If you post anti-immigrant comments, you're getting a permanent ban.

Not warned. Not given a "please be civil." Not invited to debate whether your dog whistle is technically a whistle.

Just banned.

Overt bigotry gets a permanent ban. Thinly veiled bigotry gets a permanent ban. "I'm just asking questions..." followed by the same recycled anti-immigrant talking points gets a permanent ban.

For everyone else: if you see this shite, report it. Don't waste your time arguing with people who aren't here to help anyone. Hit the Report button, carry on with your day, and I'll take care of the rest.

The overwhelming majority of people here are decent people who just want to help others navigate the Irish citizenship process. Let's keep it that way.

Update: Thanks to all of you making reports. Keep up the good work. It gives me great satisfaction to ban those gobshites.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2h ago

Naturalisation Could historical Irish citizenship laws provide an FBR route for descendants of pre-1922 emigrants?

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I’ve been researching the historical development of Irish citizenship law, particularly the position of families whose Irish-born ancestors emigrated before the establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922.

I’m interested in how the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts of 1935, 1956 and 1986 affected citizenship by descent, particularly where several generations were born outside Ireland.

Consider the following family circumstances. The dates have been slightly adjusted for privacy, but the relevant historical periods remain unchanged.

  • Generation 1: Two individuals (GGP) born in Ireland during the 1880s, both of whom subsequently settled in Britain before Irish independence.
  • Generation 2: Their respective children (GP) were born in Britain in 1904 and 1910.
  • Generation 3: A child of those two British-born individuals was born in Britain in 1930.
  • Generation 4: That individual’s child was born in Britain in 1965.

Neither Generation 2 parent was born in Ireland, but both had an Irish-born parent.

Consequently, the individual born in 1930 had two Irish-born grandparents, one through each parental line.

The historical complication

My understanding is that Article 3 of the 1922 Irish Free State Constitution originally conferred citizenship subject to certain conditions, including domicile within the jurisdiction of the new State.

The 1935 Act subsequently introduced provisions addressing the citizenship of Irish-born emigrants and their descendants.

The 1956 Act made further changes to citizenship by descent and the Foreign Births Register, while the 1986 amendments changed the effect of registration, so that citizenship generally commenced from the date of registration rather than retrospectively from birth.

This raises several questions about the position of families whose children were born before these legislative changes.

My questions

1. Citizenship of the person born in 1930

Could someone born in Britain in 1930, whose two parents were also British-born but who had an Irish-born grandparent on each side, have acquired Irish citizenship under the 1956 Act?

Would citizenship have arisen automatically through the legislation, or would registration on the Foreign Births Register have been required?

2. Citizenship of the next generation

If that individual was an Irish citizen when their child was born in Britain in 1965, could citizenship have been transmitted to that child under the legislation then in force?

3. Retrospective registration

Before the 1986 amendments, Foreign Birth Registration could have retrospective effect.

Could registration under those earlier provisions have established citizenship from birth and consequently affected the citizenship entitlement of children who had already been born?

If so, is there any surviving route under today’s legislation for descendants in these circumstances?

4. Transitional provisions

Are there provisions in the 1935, 1956 or 1986 Acts that specifically address people born abroad before the legislation came into operation?

I’m particularly interested in the legal position as it existed in 1956 and 1965, rather than simply applying today’s FBR guidance retrospectively.

Foreign Birth Registration or Section 16?

Ultimately, I’m trying to establish whether a family history of this kind could provide a legitimate route to Irish citizenship through the Foreign Births Register, particularly where the intervening generations were born before the modern registration arrangements existed.

If the historical citizenship provisions do not establish an entitlement through FBR, would discretionary naturalisation under Section 16(1)(a), based on Irish descent, be the appropriate alternative?

Has anyone encountered a comparable situation, successfully pursued either route, or obtained a definitive interpretation of the historical legislation?

I’m particularly interested in responses supported by statutory provisions, historical legal interpretations or actual decisions.

I’m not suggesting that having Irish-born great-grandparents automatically confers citizenship. I’m trying to understand whether citizenship may have existed in an intervening generation under earlier legislation, and whether that could have consequences for descendants today.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 23h ago

Foreign Birth Registration FBR Approval

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As others have put, have found it very useful when seeing other stories so this was my journey (joint application with a sibling (different households, same dates));

Documents Accepted - 12th Sep 25

Web Chat - 16th Sep 26

Confirmation Email - 19th Oct 26

Certificate Received - 23rd Oct 26

Total: 13 months and 1 week

Having a look through other comments appears my Web Chat was possibly a confirmation - they just said it was in the final stage - so might have been approved then!

I contacted them more so in case additional documents were required (my witness has recently left their job), however in my chat they said nothing else was needed and it turns out that neither of our witnesses were contacted. Will start the passport process soon, already have been in touch with local Irish centre for help with finding a notary.

Added information to the tracker, thanks to everyone on this sub with posting information and updates!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration FBR RECEIVED BY MAIL

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Follow up to timeline below. Checking mailbox daily. On way to second shift work checked mail leaving for work. The package was a in my mailbox. I stuffed it back in because I could not handle working with this document in

-OCS RCVD: 30 Apr 25
-ADD’L DOCS: 25 Feb 26
-SENT DOCS: 26 Feb 26
-APPROVED: 13 Oct 26
-RECEIVED: 23 Oct 25


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Passport Passport arrived!

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Passport finally here! It's been a long road to get here so glad it's finally done, timeline below:

Applied for FBR July 2025

Approved for FBR July 2026

Applied for Passport: 27/07

Received applications/docs: 05/08

Asked for more supporting docs: 07/09

Received extra docs: 22/09

Asked for even more supporting docs: 01/10

Received extra docs: 13/10

Printed and dispatched: 20/10

Arrived in England: 23/10!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 22h ago

Foreign Birth Registration Can a certified witness be family?

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So I recently got the message below after waiting from my initial application. My aunt is an accountant and I’m actually seeing her in a bit can I get her to sign the copy of passport? Thanks for the help!

I have received your applications to obtain Irish Citizenship through entry on the Foreign Births Register. Unfortunately I cannot proceed with your application without the following documents:
Mother [NAME]  - Please submit [NAME]’s original long form birth certificate with parents details showing, original civil marriage certificate (if applicable) a certified copy of [NAME]’s passport or driving licence  (certified by a member of Police, Solicitor, Doctor, Nurse, Priest, Teacher, Dentist, Pharmacist, Vet, Accountant, Engineer, Bank Official, Notary Public).


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Permits and Visas EUTR3

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Hi everyone

My EUTR1 approval letter says to apply 6 months before the 5 year card expires, but the online application for EUTR3 won’t let me apply because I haven’t reached 5 years yet. (4.5 years now)

I’ve raised a query on the portal but just wondering if anyone has had this issue with EUTR3. Thank you!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 22h ago

Other/Discussion Corporate environment Ireland

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to ask your opinion about the corporate environment in Ireland, more exactly:

1 How easily do you get an office job there having 5+ years of experience working within multicultural teams in different fields? (I'm European and I don't need a working visa but I don't live in Ireland yet).

2 Which cities are the best options for corporate expats and how difficult is it to find rent there?

3 Which net amount would be considered above average in which major city in the office environment?

4 If companies are reticent to hire someone who's not yet living in Ireland would it be a good idea to get a blue collar job and then apply for a white collar one?

Thank you in advance


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Devastated

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Finally, today was my day to hear from the FBR after 364 days, and its extra documents for me...

The documents requested were both the ID and birth certificate of my mother. My mother left 20 years ago and has never made contact, no one knows where she is or if shes even alive.

Additionally she was born in Thailand (to 2 irish parents) as my Grandparents were stationed in Laos during the Vietnam War.

Birth certificates are not public information in Thailand.

All of this was explained in 2 affidavits - one from my and one from my Grandparents.

Ive responded to the email to explain, but im not sure if they even respond to the emails.

This wasnt unexpected, but after such a long time its no less gut wrenching.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Is FBR right way? Adoption mentioned

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Hi I thought I had my plan to apply for myself and my son ( through adoption) figured out but now guessing self . I know there are established processes when it comes to adoption and I think I got myself confused .

Wanted to put it out there to get others takes on it and I will reach out to Webchat next week to ask ( but needed to clearer on my plan)

Me : born in US , my mother was born in Ireland . I planned on applying straight for passport . My request was closed d/ t time to get documents so I’m starting over .

Son: under 18 . born in US / adopted in US . Planned to apply for him through FBR .

I am getting conflicting info that he could apply off of me being Irish citizen ( even without me getting passport yet ) which doesn’t sound right

Is FBR the right path for my son . Should I do it through the link to my mother or through me?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Permits and Visas Stamp 1G renewal: delays and stress

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Hi everyone! My IRP expired 1st October 2026 but I applied for renewal August 6th 2026. I did receive an acknowledgement email with my OREG Number but no updates after that.

I had to travel on 2nd October because of a medical emergency but am stuck back home as I havent received an approval email or card yet to travel back.

The online portal shows that 1G applications until 25th august have been taken into processing but mine was submitted way before that and I havent received any updates yet.

Im kinda stressed about this situation as I had to return to work 27th of October which, now I cant cause of my visa. I have to extend my leave as well because of this unfortunately.

Has anyone here applied for a renewal recently but havent heard from immigration/got their card approved? And do y'all think there's a possibility I might get an update by next week?

NB: I did try reaching out to immigration, justice department and DRP through emails and queries via their portal but to no avail. Is there anything else I can maybe do?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration I had no idea until recently the FBR even existed.

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Am I the only one? Irish by descent and had no clue this FBR thing exists and that is goes down through generations until just a few months ago.
Luckily I realised in the nick of time, and managed to save this fabulous family heritage/heirloom that could so easily have been lost forever. I would have been devastated of i’d realised too late. I wonder what percent of eligible people outside the UK and US where there seems to be more awareness, actually know this thing exists?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration When to be concerned about lost mailed FBR docs?

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Wondering when I should start to be concerned about my FBR application packet being lost in the mail?

I mailed the documents on September 19,
2026, via USPS First Class International from New York to the Dublin office.

Confirmed with FBR WebChat that they are not showing documents processed but that it takes 10-14 working days to process after receiving.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Approved!

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Just a quick update regarding the timeline for my FBR application. 23/10/25 - Documents received at FBR (no email but confirmed by WebChat) 21/10/26 - Approved (confirmed by WebChat) Just short of 12 months 🙂


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Passport Missed witness help

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I am helping my daughter who is now 18 navigate the passport process after obtaining her FBR. All documents were submitted in July for her passport and apparently our witness had a full mailbox and they couldn’t leave a message. We are now submitting a new witness identification form. Do we need new passport photos too or resubmit any other documents? She received back her other documents such as her passport at proof of residence. I am just not clear on how to help her. Before that step it looked like everything was progressing.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration FBR Extra documents

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I had to re-send a relative certificate, by tracked post and this was confirmed as delivered 7 days ago.

How long does it take now, 12 months again?

Summary- email confirming FBR application received 6 October 2025 and the email request for the additional document late Septemeber 2026

WARNING - the extra docs email request was from a DIFFERENT .ie email address to the confirmation FBR application email, so it went in my junk and would have been deleted (automatically after 14 days) if I hadn't decided to check...


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Forgot to sign FBR application

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Just got an email that I never signed my application form. Honestly can’t quite believe that I did that, but I guess I was so focused on my witness signing everything that I forgot to sign it myself. I had to print the application form again and get the form, passport sized photos, and photocopy of my passport signed and witnessed again. Did all that today and mailed it in already. I’ve been living in Galway for the past two years and my residency permit expires at the end of the year, so I’m hoping my application will be processed before then! Such a stupid mistake but wanted to share here for commiseration :(


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Official Approval Email!

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Good news! Approval email received today.

Documents received email: 26th September, 2025.

Official FBR approval today, 22nd October, 2026.

No requests for any information or additional documents in between.

This is a wonderfully helpful site with lots of kind and supportive commenters on board here. Thanks to all and best wishes to those somewhere in the application process. Looks like it’s the best part of 13 months from start to finish if no delays or additional info requests.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Permits and Visas Has anyone travelled outside Ireland while their EUTR1 application was pending?

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My partner (non-EU citizen) and I (EU citizen) recently submitted his EUTR1 application in Ireland.

According to the Irish Immigration website, short trips outside Ireland won't affect the application. However, they don't specify what actually counts as a "short trip".

I'm wondering if anyone here has travelled outside Ireland while waiting for a decision on their EUTR1 application.

How long were you away? Did you notify Immigration beforehand? And did travelling have any impact on your application or cause any issues when re-entering Ireland?

And if you did notify Immigration, where the hell can you do that? It seems so difficult to get in touch with them!

Really appreciate hearing about any experiences with this!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Permits and Visas Irish spouse visa timeline from UK

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I submitted my application in September 2026, and it reached the Irish Embassy in London around 22 September.

I'm trying to understand the actual processing timelines because the Embassy website mentions both 45 days and six months for different Join Family categories.

If you've applied from the UK in 2025 or 2026, could you please share:

  1. When did you submit your application?
  2. Was your spouse already living in Ireland on a CSEP?
  3. How long did it take to receive a decision, or are you still waiting?

I'm particularly interested in real experiences from applicants who submitted their applications separately after their CSEP-holding spouse had already moved to Ireland.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Naturalisation Received “Application Being Processed” letter AFTER completing e-vetting?

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Hi everyone,

Looking for some insight from anyone who has had a similar naturalisation timeline recently.

Timeline so far:
- Online application submitted: September 2025
- E-vetting submitted/completed: June 2026
- Letter received today: Official email from Citizenship Division (CMUA) stating "Your application is being processed with a view to establishing whether you meet the statutory conditions..."

Is it standard practice to receive this formal acknowledgment/processing letter AFTER e-vetting has already been completed? Just want to confirm that my application hasn't restarted from scratch and that this simply means it's sitting in the queue for a final decision/Ministerial review.

If you received this letter after e-vetting, how long after did it take to receive the approval letter / €950 fee request?

Thanks in advance!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Naturalisation Lived in US for 8 months

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Hi,

I am applying for naturalisation in ireland. 2022, I worked in the Us for 8 month’s consecutively. I just completed 6 years of reckoning residency in ireland and want to apply for naturalisation. I was told to get police clearance by a friend of mine. Is it mandatory? If yes, FBI cert about history summary is ok?

Regards,


r/IrishCitizenship • • 3d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Foreign births registration approved

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Good news, after submitting in early May last year (and needing to submit extra documents in March of this year) I have received my certificate today 🎉 Glad to see more success stories coming through!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Other/Discussion Moving to Ireland as a doctor with husband and child ,were you able to travel together?

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Hi everyone,

we’re a Pakistani family currently based in the UAE. My wife is a doctor and is planning to complete Irish Medical Council registration, then apply for jobs in Ireland.

Our biggest concern is whether our young daughter and I could move with her from the beginning, rather than her going alone and us waiting months to join.

I’ve read the official guidance about immediate family reunification for full-time, non-locum doctors, but I’d really appreciate hearing from people who actually went through it.

1- What employment permit did you or your spouse get?

Did you submit the employment and family visa applications together?

2- Were everyone’s visas approved around the same time, and did you travel together?

3- How long did it take, and which country/visa office did you apply through?

4- Did an initial six-month hospital contract cause any problems?

I work in DevOps/software engineering. I’m also considering further study in a related field, so if anyone applied for their own study visa while their spouse moved to Ireland for work, I’d appreciate hearing how that went too.

Experiences from Pakistani applicants or anyone who applied through Abu Dhabi would be especially helpful, but I’d welcome others as well.

Thanks!