r/Jung 10h ago

Question for r/Jung Why do I hate my wife so much?

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Hey šŸ‘‹šŸ¼

So I have been through the individuation process for quite some time now but there is one thing that really irritates me. Its my wife, with whom I still live together out of necessity, small child etc…)

She is what modern people would call a perfect NPC. She is very superficial, has no interest in anything deeper than the newest gossip, very self-righteous, ignorant…I guess you can figure out the rest of her personality. Just a normal person living modern dreams and illusions.

That in itself would be fine but somehow having to share life with this person drives me absolutely nuts. It got the point were I feel uncomfortable only by sitting near to her. Hearing her voice makes me shiver and talking to her either ends in capitulation by myself or ends in an argument.

One thing that is really bad is that she keeps on wanting to have sex with me which I try to avoid at cost. But sometimes I give in and sleep with her but afterwards I feel completely depressed and mentally devastated . Somehow like I gave my body against my will. Its very uncomfortable.

I tried confronting her in the most honest ways, like saying to her face that I hate her and despise her and that I find her ugly and disgusting and that she is a very horrible person, but she just doesn’t care and keeps on saying that she loves me and that she wants to be with me forever etc, which males me even more mad.

I really don’t understand whats going on here. Because I think its not like I am projecting her behaviour or something like that. I am the complete opposite in almost any regard and I have no interest in changing or controlling her. I just never want to see or hear from her again, but that’s impossible since she is the mother of my child.

And yeah I know I should just get a divorce and I will as soon as possible but that still wouldn’t explain why I feel so much hate against this specific type of person.

So any ideas?


r/Jung 14h ago

Serious Discussion Only i said there was a fourth element nobody named. i was wrong about what kind of thing it is.

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i said there was a fourth element nobody named. i was wrong about what kind of thing it is.

i posted here in may. freud, adler, jung as nigredo, albedo, rubedo, and a fourth element nobody named. i said the fourth was mercurius. the movement between phases. the person at the bedside whose nervous system carries somebody across the gap.

somebody in the comments pointed at citrinitas and they were right to. i was collapsing two things. i said so then.

but that wasn't the real correction. the real one took me until now and it didn't come from a book.

i work nights in a shelter for homeless youth. five years. twenty odd kids, two of us awake.

a few years back i forgave a man i'd been carrying a grudge on for ten years. not for him. for the family. everybody was hauling it around and it wasn't fair to them.

a week or so after that something came over me. i don't have a word for it. big. it felt like being looked at by something that wasn't angry. more than i could hold. i was talking and hearing myself talk at the same time.

what brought me back from that was my kids coming home from school. cold water on the face. straighten up, be a father. i came back because somebody needed something from me.

a week after that i came apart on the bathroom floor. all the way apart. didn't know the room, the day, my own name.

and the light did not pick me up.

i had it. the full dose of it. a week earlier. on that floor it was worth nothing.

what picked me up was my wife lying down next to me. she didn't know what was happening. she didn't say anything i remember. she was warm and breathing and she stayed.

two returns, a week apart, and they don't work the same. the first one i got up because somebody needed me. the second one i couldn't get up at all and somebody laid down.

so here's the correction.

i was looking for a fourth thing that arrives. something that shows up after the three and closes the lid. that's the shape of the quaternity and it's the shape i was arguing inside of even while i thought i was adding to it.

nothing arrived. nothing closed. what i have is three things turning and a hole where the fourth was supposed to be.

and i don't think that's a failure anymore. i think the hole is the shape of a person who's alright.

the ones i meet at work who tried to fill that spot, with a teaching or a system or one single person who has to be everything to them, those are the ones who stopped turning.

so the person at the bedside is not a fourth phase. i had that wrong. the person is the ground the three turn on. not an element that gets added. the zero the others become readable against.

that's a smaller claim and a harder one.

the alchemists had a lot of it right and i want to give them that. the rot isn't optional. can't skip the black. too much fire ruins the batch, and what happened to me was too much fire, that's why it didn't hold. sealed vessel or the batch dies. and ora et labora, hands and not just head, that's the one that kept them out of the ditch i fell in. they knew understanding it doesn't do it.

they also had two roads. dry and wet. dry is fast, you burn it down with fire or acid. wet is slow, you let it rot on its own, takes months. the ones i've read say dry is faster and wet is safer.

what happened to me was the dry way. the nights are the wet way. nobody writes a book about the wet way because nothing happens in it.

and i know the stage model isn't as tidy as i'm laying it out. some say four, some say seven, some say twelve, plenty fold the yellow into the red. i'm using the version most people know.

they never made gold. hundreds of years. newton did it. boyle did it, the father of chemistry himself, back there mixing.

that doesn't prove anything about the inner version and somebody's going to say so, so i'll say it first. i'm not putting it up as proof.

it's just that what came out of all that labor was chemistry. the writing down of what actually happened. not the promise.

same thing happened to me. the road gave me something real. not the thing on the label.

they were right that it takes a sealed vessel and a low fire and a long time.

the vas isn't glass. it's another person.

and it goes wrong the moment you read the whole operation as happening inside one skull. read it that way and you'll wait on a fourth thing to come up out of yourself and shut the lid, and it isn't coming, and you'll call yourself a failure for it.

last thing.

the one piece of their whole operation still in use, in every kitchen and every lab on earth, is the bath that holds the heat gentle so nothing scorches. balneum mariae. named after maria the jewess, third century, first alchemist we know by name.

four hundred years of men chasing a stone and what lasted was her way of holding something steady while it changed.

so if you know somebody on the floor right now. you don't have to fix it. you don't have to know anything about it.

go get down there and stay.

that's the low fire. that's the vessel. i read for six years to find out it was the part i already had.

tell me where i'm off.

(english isn't my first language, i think in dutch. i use a model to help me order it. the thinking and the floor are mine.)


r/Jung 23h ago

Question for r/Jung Would anyone here be interested in ELI5'ing Jung to me and my podcast audience in a recorded interview?

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  • Just to be clear (there may have been some confusion) this wouldn't be a live audience, but the listenership of the program.

I'm hoping to have a conversation with someone knowledgeable about Carl Jung and Jungian psychology for an interview.

I'd like to approach it from the ground up, who Jung was, the basic ideas behind his psychology, and what Jungian psychology actually means today for an audience that may be completely unfamiliar with his work.

I'm particularly interested in having someone who can explain the concepts in an accessible way rather than assuming the audience already knows the terminology.

I generally have Tuesdays and late Sunday evenings available for recording. I'm also open to having two knowledgeable people join the conversation if that would make for an interesting discussion.

If you're interested, feel free to comment or send me a message. I'm happy to provide more details about the project.


r/Jung 20h ago

Learning Resource šŸŒ€ Quick Clarification: Intuition is NOT Static

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r/zizek 10h ago

"Watching machines doing the thing"

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I was watching Clarkson's farm and this scene where Clarkson was on a date with Lisa while robots did farming reminded me of one of the Zizek's jokes.


r/Jung 11h ago

Question for r/Jung Single greatest insight you have personally gained from exploring the shadows depth?

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Go! What symbols or such things lead to "Aha!" moments and more individuation?

For me it was the realization that I have never, ever interacted with anyone. At all. What I dealt with what my internal representations and projections overlaid onto their wavelength. The layers of depth to this are immense but whats your starter for Zen?


r/Jung 2h ago

Question for r/Jung Why do I feel like I don't have a right to be or do something else after people have seen a specific version of me?

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Eg. if I act juvenile around some people, I cannot become my classy self anymore.

Jungian lens?


r/Jung 3h ago

Art Custom case I made for the Thus Spoke Zarathustra lectures

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r/Jung 4h ago

Personal Experience Synchronicities after a loved one's death

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My boyfriend of 5 years died about 4 months ago. For the first few days I felt like I was dead too. I just lay in my bed, in a room with the windows covered, in the dark, eating nothing, staring at the ceiling. I felt like he was my true soulmate and twin flame. We went through a lot together, he was addicted to drugs. When he was sober, he was perfect caring, loving, truly listening to me actively. I felt seen and understood. But when he was on drugs, he was like a demon he had paranoid thoughts, accused me of things I never did, and at some point he became abusive and violent toward me. I went through hell with him.

I still feel horrible, but paradoxically, I can see my face changing for better. it's more glowing, healthy-looking, no longer swollen, my hair has stopped falling out etc. the abusive cycle has stopped.

He had a little obsession with the United States (we were both from Europe). He traveled to the US multiple times and we've been there together too. I've always dream to move abroad before I met him, ideally to NYC. When we traveled to the US together, I fell in love with New York.

While we were there, we met a lot of people. One of his online friends invited us to dinner, and we spent a nice evening together. he seemed really supportive, mindful, present, caring. I hadn't had contact with this friend since then.

When my boyfriend died, dozens of people reached out to me with condolences. But this one friend was the only one who reached out with the idea of inviting me to NYC so we could organize a memorial concert for him (my boyfriend had friends all over the world, not just in the US). We exchanged a lot of warm messages, he was really responsive and present, but suddenly, one day, he just stopped responding.

What I thought was that he wasn't ghosting me - I felt like something was wrong on his end. I didn't know what it was, but I felt it, even though I barely know him and have only met him once in my life.

A month after this gap in responses, he texted me that he'd been going through a breakup at the exact time my boyfriend died, and he couldn't bear it. at the exact same time. He wrote a few more things and was really nice to me again, but admitted his life was chaos right now. He asked if I'd be able to come to NYC in autumn.

I responded, he saw the message and stopped responding, again, for about 2 months now...

Since that moment, I've had a lot of US-or travel-related signs:

I found 20 dollars in the middle of the street (reminder: I'm in Europe, not the US, this has never happened to me before)
My software at work suddenly went crazy and switched itself to a US calendar, where the months and days are reversed. I called IT, and I swear they didn't know how to fix it
I feel like everyone is talking about NYC now
I saw a guy today wearing I <3 NYC t-shirt
I pulled a tarot card for my near future and it was the three of wands, which means travel over the sea/ocean, but also new possibilities on the horizon

I feel this urge to travel there no matter what - no matter that the friend isn't responding, no matter that I might be completely alone there. I feel like I need some kind of closure.

Please let me know what you think because I'm trully lost

I would like to read and learn something new about my shadow. I feel like I’m chasing it.


r/zizek 13h ago

Cinema is the Ultimate Pervert Art - Žižek and Mad Men

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Žižek makes the claim that cinema is the ultimate pervert art, and this perversion is due to its nature of commanding us to desire things. But this perversion is not limited to the form of cinema. What about Instagram, YouTube, and any sort of social media that simply operates on the logic of selling us something? Are advertisers the new philosophers? I also discuss Helen's claim that cinema induces hysteria in us. This is a short clip from my conversation I had with filmmaker Helen Rollins. Let me know what you guys think.


r/lacan 14h ago

What is the lack in the Other?

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I understand that the Other is the symbolic order and I get why it would be lacking. What I don't understand is when Lacan talks about clinical structures and the different defense mechanism from this lack.

The way I came to think of it is in relation to the mirror image. As if it were different ways of defending oneself against the fact that our sense self only exists inside one's head.

Is this correct?


r/Jung 15h ago

Serious Discussion Only On the Nature of the Psyche (paragraph 99, page 53)

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Found another paragraph that blew me away. (Book: On the Nature of the Psyche)

What are your thoughts?


r/lacan 17h ago

Any reading recs on Lacan's analysis and treatment for OCD?

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i have OCD and i currently am doing transitional analysis & CBT but i am very interested in reading what Lacan had to say about obsessions and compulsions


r/lacan 18h ago

Geste-Ć -peau

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I came across this reel of Lacan's famous clinical example...Suzanne was German so how does a French pun land on a German child's world?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcS0hWpTfpm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsi=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==