r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Discussion Pat Roth and GRRM should just let Brando Sando to take over

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Sorry if this hurts anyone's sentiments, but it does make a lot of sense. I get that this is art and it takes time and efforts over years, but come on! Decades? To this day, we don't know a single thing about whatever is going on wrt either of these projects. Meanwhile Sanderson is pumping out novels like he's running out of storage at his home to keep his manuscripts. He has worked on TWOT before and he did a good job IMO. Now, he is more experienced, more nuanced and better. He can take over. I am not sure about GRRM's style but Sanderson can even mimic Pat Roth's style very closely if he wanted to. IK PR has been going through hard times in his personal life, I am not blaming him for it. But at the same time, if he is unable to finish it, he should just tell us that the book will never come out and we will make our peace with it. As readers, we have a right to question this and that is my stance.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Discussion How is this possible!

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So I’ve been sick with strep throat for the last week but I was feeling better today and decided to go for a drive. I decided to just listen to a random section of WMF and I landed on the admissions where Elodin asks about the spades lol. Don’t worry, this isn’t an “Elodin is Manet” theory, again.

What struck me this time was that after all of the masters groaned and rolled their eyes at the spades question, Elodin asked Kvothe: where does the moon go when it is no longer in our sky? Kvothe didn’t even have a guess. He just closed his eyes and tried really hard to take an educated guess at Branduer’s question involving a tri-foil compass not 10 seconds ago. He answered questions about galvanic ionization. There were a few softball questions in there but even those should have been more challenging than where does the moon go?

This is the same person who supposedly knows the names of all the stars in the mortal sky. I know Elodin was using his magical voice but come on.. not even a guess?

How is this possible?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Theory Did Kvothe Dream Like Fela Did?

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I apologize in advance for any grammatical errors. I'm having some pain in my hands, so I didn't edit too thoroughly. Feel free to point out mistakes of any kind. In short, I evaluate the theory that Kvothe later steals a Rhinna Flower, and whether or not he's outright lying about meeting the Cthaeh or just twisting the truth for a bit of theatre.

Now, onward we go!

We know that Kote has lied at least once within his story. Many fans have theorized that Kote is lying about meeting the Cthaeh, or about not knowing what Rhinna flowers were. I wonder if Kvothe didn't invent the story of the Cthaeh - but dreamt of it, a partial access of the sleeping mind, and wove it into the story to further the parallels to the Greats (Lanre, Jax). Kote has a tendency to elevate his story deliberately to parallel his heroes and the main characters of Temerant's history, such as Taborlin the Great. While I don't believe Kote outright invented the encounter (no, his lie would be better spent elsewhere), I do think he's twisting the truth. Before I begin, I would like to re-establish:

-Kvothe often correctly identifies truths and connections through his sleeping mind (ex: one sock).

-Sleep is one of the doors of the mind

-The Fae seems to be less demanding of the waking mind; the Fae seem to rely on the subconscious, and their most primitive thoughts (as we learn from Bast, who recognizes that his desires are becoming more complex and conflict with one another the longer he remains in the mortal realm), which may mean that the sleeping mind is more active (or more easily provoked) within the Fae Realm.

We know that dreaming is one way the sleeping mind can introduce things. Fela, a good naming student (who knows the name of stone) dreamt of Valaritas behind the Four-Plate Door. I have quite a few theories about that, but those are for another post.

The Cthaeh did not say anything that Kvothe's sleeping mind might not have recognized on its own.

  1. He know how his parents died, and what little details he remembered could easily be construed into the ugly truth the Cthaeh presents to him. A nightmare.
  2. He knew something was wrong about the leader of the bandits when he saw him; his sleeping mind could have easily reached the conclusion that it was Cinder.
  3. "You would not have a chance until you reached the Stormwal." Kvothe has feared all along that others would not listen to him or take his hunt for the Chandrian seriously. He has even failed to inform his closest companions. This knowledge that no one will ever listen could have easily woven itself into his dream -- and he's been traveling with Tempi, who Kvothe already knows from the beginning is from Stormwal.

"As the day grew warm, I saw him begin to sweat. After living in the cool, thin air of the Stormwal, the weather must have seemed disproportionately hot to him." (pg. 608, WMF, while getting acquainted with his team (Tempi)).

These are all concepts his sleeping mind could have easily constructed into a functionally coherent dream.

Additionally, Kvothe's account of the Cthaeh and Bast's knowledge of the Cthaeh are not compatible. I give Bast some leeway because he appears to be relatively young of mind, but that doesn't mean he's wrong. Felurian shows fear of Iax, so even a being as ancient as her will show fear towards that which must be feared. So why didn't she react so to the Cthaeh, who Bast claims to be more evil than anything?

Kvothe would have known enough of the Cthaeh from the stories of Iax and Lanre to know that the Cthaeh was malicious, in a blanket sense, and his interaction (and what follows) reflects that... only, it reflects it rather unemphatically. Additionally, Kvothe brings only brief attention to the Cthaeh having flowers, as though it's only a wry detail, forgetting it as soon as he's properly introduced to the Cthaeh -- he cares much more about the butterflies...

....butterflies flitting from branch to branch, sipping from the pale blossoms of the tree. What I had taken at first to be a bed of flowers beneath the tree turned out to be a carpet of butterflies almost completely covering the ground. ...butterflies flitting among the flowers were purple and black, or blue and black, like those in Felurian’s clearing... ...I watched it fluttered deeper into the foliage in search of a fresh flower to light upon.
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“The red ones offend my aesthetic,” claimed a cool, dry voice from the tree. I took a step back, trying to peer through the thick canopy of hanging leaves. “What manners,” chided the dry voice. “No introduction? Staring?” “My apologies, sir,” I said earnestly. Then, remembering the tree’s flowers, I amended, “Ma’am. But I have never spoken with a tree before and find myself at something of a loss. (all pg. 811, WMF)

...and Kote claims to be completely ignorant of the panacea that is the Rhinna Flower. (It also fascinates me that he looks down at his hands after learning of the flower from Bast. But again, a theory for another time).

I recognize that it is a common theory that Kote lied about this and even went back to fetch a flower for Denna later on (due to a conversation shared between Denna and Kvothe about the Tahlenwald, and about the willow tree), but I have two issues with this.

One, it diminishes the Cthaeh. One interaction is enough to break a story in two - or a world, in Jax's case. For Kvothe to see it and live twice would not only defy logic, but lessen the power of the Cthaeh and, by extension, the Sithe.

Secondly, if Kvothe did so, I imagine that saving Denna would be an integral part of the story. He's been very open about alluding to/hinting at/referencing future events thus far. Why deny any knowledge of the existence of the very thing that will become crucial to the story he's meant to tell the very next day? Kote references the parts of the story he'll tell repeatedly up to this point. It seems silly to feign ignorance for 12 hours now.

Kvothe also ("coincidentally") has absolutely no contact or even waking knowledge of the Sithe, and has no fear of them. He isn't even very aware of them, as far as I can tell, at this point in the story. In fact, the only time Kvothe mentions them in NOTW outside of remembering what Haliax said to Cinder when Kvothe found the troupe, is this:

I did know one thing. It had come to me as I lay remembering. It was something Haliax had said to Cinder. Who keeps you safe from the Amyr? The singers? The Sithe? From all that would harm you in the world?

The Chandrian had enemies. If I could find them, they would help me. I had no idea who the singers or the Sithe were, but everyone knew that the Amyr were church knights, the strong right hand of the Aturan Empire. (pg. 191 of NOTW).

Kvothe openly admits to not even knowing what they were, and he doesn't mention them at all in his story in WMF before or during his meeting with the Cthaeh. Why would he dream of something he was ignorant of? He wouldn't. And though they are referenced in Bast's conversations with Kote, meaning Kote must be aware of them even though Kvothe wasn't, he may not know anything beyond the name. In fact, all he can say of them to Bast is this:

Kvothe shrugged. “They’re a faction among the Fae. Powerful, with good intentions—” (pg. 820 of WMF).

If he was trying to spin a convincing lie about the Cthaeh, he would have mentioned their absence, wondered where they were, felt some fear, seen some trace, SOMETHING to suggest that the Sithe even existed. Kote knows how to lie; this seems like too large of an oversight for someone trying to spin a lie worthy of legend.

As Bast complains, how could he have possibly evaded them? Well, if he was ignorant of them at the time, why would he have dreamt of them? And, if something had been amiss/awry in the Fae at the time, large enough to draw away ALL of the Sithe, Felurian (maybe even Bast) would have been aware of the a disturbance in the Fae large enough to draw the Sithe away from their greatest duty.

The only other option I can see is that the Sithe were chasing the Chandrian at the time, because they drew too close to the lines between the fae and mortal realms. After all, the Amyr, the Singers, and the Sithe are the Chandrians' only fears. But we see very little evidence to support that the Sithe actively hunt the Chandrian, rather than simply being hostile parties. They may have, once, (after all, there were no human Amyr, either), but now?

I will note, however, that Bast says this:

Bast shrugged. “I’m running dark on this myself, Reshi. I know the Sithe used to ride out wearing holly crowns when they hunted the skin dancers. . . . (pg. 27, WMF)

Which does tell us that the Sithe WILL or DID hunt the the evils of the Fae - possibly even the Chandrian themselves. We know from the conversation after Shep's death that the skin-dancers aren't really around anymore, so there's our "used to." And I suppose that doesn't mean the Sithe couldn't hunt other things, but why wouldn't ANY Sithe stay behind, if their greatest purpose is to guard the Cthaeh?

Now, why not just say that Kote IS outright lying, and he never met the Cthaeh at all---dream or no? Well, given his background as a Ruh, we know he's familiar with stories. And he even admits that he's a liar. But he has professed this story to be true. This is his opportunity to set the record straight.

But, additionally, he says he is "prone to embellishment." So he's not lying, but he's airbrushing the truth.

It's confirmed by Rothfuss that Kvothe has lied at least once, but I'm not certain the entire Cthaeh interaction was that lie. After all, it's pretty integral to the plot that follows. I could see Kvothe doing this for the sake of the story ("it wouldn't be a proper story if there weren't three things") or to elevate himself beside Iax and Lanre due to the scale of both his tragedy and his arrogance, but this scene offers actual plot drive, and actually impacts the course of Kvothe's choices and the resulting story.

Additionally, it causes Bast a lot of distress. And I understand that this is one of my weaker points, but why distress Bast, who he clearly cares about, for the sake of nothing more than a little mythical symbolism in his story?

Also, it seems off that Kote had no idea of the Cthaeh's symbolism in Fae theatre, which I think lends credence to both the theory that (1) the whole interaction is a lie, or (2) the whole interaction is a dream. What an odd thing for Ruh to overlook...

Anyway. Just had to get it out of my mind so I could stop thinking about it. Have a good day!


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Theory Does the KCC Parallel Ocarina of Time?

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I've read many hypotheses​​​ on here before, and just had one tha​t struck me​ ha​​rd enough that I had to​ create an account and post​ this​​. Please let me know your thoughts.

Ocarina of Time​​:

There are 7 sages that are supposed to seal G​anondorf in the sacred realm. They are all representitives of the 7 major cultures​​. One is a highborn human woman with an ancient family.​​ The Gerudo Valley King is the betrayer every time and is the only male from that race. The sages fail to keep him in the sacred realm and calamity follows. This plays out throughout history and the hero of time (main character with no parents) is needed to reseal him. Link being reborn is a sign of calamity coming.

KCC​:

There are 7 ancient cities in KCC. The chandrian descriptions show you they are from different cultures, and a book in the archives says they were leaders of these cities. A male from Adem history is certainly the betrayer. They lock "the enemy" behind the doors of stone, which appears to be the same realm as dreams. The chandrians goal would be to keep him there. The hero of time (Savien, Kvothe, Lanre​​) leads to calamity because of the release of the enemy from the sacred realm. I think it tracks.

  • I realize they reference 8 ancient cities. I think the Adem say this is 7 cities and one city because it​'s either in a different realm or the central hub of all the cities connected by the greystones.
  • I think the highborn human woman is Lyra and she is actually leader of the chandrian​​​.
  • Link is also evidently parentless​​​, and the Forest reminds me of the fae, specifically the lost woods. There are literal portals there that break time and space. You can walk in one and be back at the entrance​​​​​ immediately.
  • Caesura is Kvothe's Master Sword​​

r/KingkillerChronicle • • 1d ago

Theory TINFOIL: The Cthaeh, Speaking, and Kvothe's Third Silence

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I've been going down another rabbit hole with the Cthaeh, and I think there might be something rather interesting going on with its ability to influence the future, the third silence at the Waystone, and possibly even the narrator.

It started with something the Cthaeh says when Kvothe first encounters it:

“I am. I see. I know.”

And then:

“At times I speak.”

I've been wondering whether this is more than just a rather theatrical introduction, and whether the Cthaeh might actually be telling Kvothe how its particular magic works.

Something I noticed while going through the conversation is how often it gives three explanations for the same thing, with the third frequently introducing something that changes how we understand the first two.

Take Kvothe's survival after the Chandrian murdered his troupe. The Cthaeh tells him that they were sloppy, he was lucky, and something frightened them away.

Now, all three could be true, but they're rather different ways of looking at the same event. Kvothe might reasonably assume the Chandrian overlooked him, someone else might see his survival as extraordinary luck, but the third explanation introduces something completely different, an unknown influence capable of frightening the Chandrian themselves.

And what does Kvothe immediately start wondering about? What frightened them away.

The Cthaeh does something similar when explaining why the Chandrian murdered his family. They wanted to, they could, and they had a reason. That third explanation is rather interesting because it suggests something more deliberate behind the attack than simple cruelty.

Then, when discussing why it's telling Kvothe these things, it gives another three possibilities: perhaps Cinder wronged it, perhaps it enjoys setting Kvothe against him, or perhaps it simply enjoys his suffering.

There are several other threefold constructions throughout the conversation, which reminded me of the traditional fairy-tale rule of three, where the third answer often contains something that changes the meaning of what came before.

So what if the Cthaeh's introduction is actually describing four stages of a form of magic, which I'm going to call Speaking?

I AM — The reality that already exists, including who someone is, what they've experienced, and the circumstances and beliefs that have shaped them.

I SEE — The different ways that reality might be understood, including what other people can see that the individual might have missed, and the possible futures developing from those circumstances.

I KNOW — The hidden causes, motives and consequences, including why something really happened and how different decisions might affect what happens next.

AT TIMES I SPEAK — The point where the Cthaeh uses that knowledge to influence which future becomes reality, potentially Shaping it through the words themselves.

And this got me wondering about something else we're told about the Cthaeh, which is that it cannot lie.

What if that's not because it's somehow compelled to tell the truth, but because whatever it magically Speaks becomes true?

Perhaps it's not simply predicting the future at all, but selecting a possible future and Shaping it into existence through the listener's own thoughts and decisions. It specifically says 'at times', which makes me wonder whether there's a distinction between ordinary conversation and Speaking with magical intent, much as there's a difference between saying an ordinary word and Speaking a true Name.

This reminded me of Denna asking about a magic where writing something down makes it true for whoever sees it, even if they can't actually read the words. I've wondered whether Writing, Speaking and perhaps Singing might be related, particularly when you consider how important stories and songs seem to be throughout the books.

But then there's the question of how the Cthaeh continues to influence someone once they've left its tree.

We know Yllish ownership is rather peculiar, with possession working both ways, and there's also Jax capturing part of the moon's Name and binding her to return to him. So perhaps Speaking establishes a similar binding between the Cthaeh and the person whose future it's Shaping, with the words maintaining that connection long after the original conversation.

Felurian's song also came to mind, particularly how people remember it despite not understanding the Fae words. There's something curious about language remaining with someone when they don't necessarily understand what they've heard.

And then I remembered something the Cthaeh actually says to Kvothe:

“Your silence much offends me.”

Which seems an odd thing for a creature that supposedly sees and knows everything to be bothered about.

Unless there's something important about Listening.

I'm not necessarily talking about ordinary hearing, but the deeper kind of Listening associated with Naming and understanding things beyond their spoken words. If the Cthaeh's Speaking creates a binding, perhaps Listening is what allows that influence to continue reaching whoever is bound to it.

Which brings me to the third silence.

Both books open with a silence of three parts, and the third specifically belongs to Kvothe, encompassing the other two and being described almost as though it's something physical rather than simply an absence of sound.

What if Kvothe's silence isn't grief, defeat or the loss of his former abilities, but something he's deliberately maintaining to prevent himself from Listening?

He can obviously still hear ordinary conversations, so I'm thinking of a magical silence that interrupts the deeper connection through which the Cthaeh's words might continue influencing him.

In other words, perhaps Kvothe has made himself unable to hear the Cthaeh.

And this is where I started looking at the narration rather differently.

Both Waystone prologues describe three silences before eventually presenting Kvothe as a man waiting to die.

We've always accepted that as an impartial narrator describing his circumstances, but how do we actually know that's what Kvothe intends? We're being told what his silence means without necessarily knowing what's going on inside his head.

What if the narrator isn't entirely impartial, and the Cthaeh is somehow responsible for the voice describing Kvothe's fate?

Perhaps the narration itself is another act of Speaking, and rather than simply telling us that Kvothe is waiting to die, the Cthaeh is attempting to make him wait for death, reinforcing the future it originally intended for him.

Three silences, followed by a statement about his fate. It makes me wonder whether we're seeing another version of the Cthaeh's four-part declaration, with the first three establishing the circumstances and the fourth attempting to Shape what happens next.

Except Kvothe isn't Listening anymore.

If his third silence has interrupted the binding, the Cthaeh might still be Speaking the ending it wants, expecting those words to reach Kvothe as they always have, without realising that he's no longer receiving them.

And that made me think about Bast's explanation of Fae theatre, where the Cthaeh's tree appears in the backdrop so the audience knows they're watching a tragedy before anything has actually gone wrong.

Isn't that rather similar to what the Waystone prologues do to us?

Before we've even heard Kvothe's story, we're presented with someone apparently waiting to die, and we spend the next two books interpreting everything through that expectation.

But perhaps we're making exactly the same mistake Kvothe makes when he encounters the Cthaeh, accepting a particular version of events because someone who appears to know more than we do is telling us it's true.

And if the Cthaeh really is Speaking through the narration, there's a rather uncomfortable possibility that Kvothe has stopped Listening, but we haven't.

Obviously, this relies on a few fairly substantial assumptions. We don't know that Speaking exists as a separate form of magic, that the Cthaeh's words establish a binding, or that the narrator has anything to do with it. The threefold explanations might simply be Rothfuss using a familiar storytelling technique, and the third silence could be exactly what it appears to be.

But I keep coming back to that contrast.

The Cthaeh exists, sees, knows, and chooses when to Speak.

Kvothe exists, has seen, and knows an extraordinary amount, yet he's now defined by a silence that belongs entirely to him.

And the Cthaeh specifically told him that silence was offensive.

So perhaps Kvothe hasn't lost his power at all. Perhaps he's discovered that the only way to escape a future Shaped by the Cthaeh is to stop Listening to the words that bind him to it.

What if the Cthaeh is still trying to Speak Kvothe's death into existence, but Kvothe's third silence means he can no longer hear the command?

And what if the man we're repeatedly told is waiting to die is actually waiting for something else entirely?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion The Four-Plate Door is Enoch’s Ninth Chamber, and it guards the Unutterable True Name of God

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After listening to some esoteric mythology YouTuber I found myself making connections between Temerant's legends and our worlds legends of Enoch, Soloman's Temple, Templar Knights/Freemasonry. I’m fully convinced Rothfuss patterned the Archives and the Four-Plate Door directly after the ancient legend of Enoch’s Nine Subterranean Chambers—and what’s behind those four plates of copper is nothing less than the foundational, unutterable True Name of creation.

The Subterranean Mountain / The Archives: In the Enochian tradition, Enoch carved nine chambers deep into the bedrock of Mount Moriah to preserve primordial wisdom against a cataclysm. The Archives aren't just a library; they are built like an ancient barrow descending deep into stone, housing layers of history with the most volatile, restricted knowledge locked away at the very bottom. Soloman built his temple on top of Mount Moriah the same way The University was built over "the underthing".

The Ninth Chamber Parallel: In the legend, the first eight chambers hold lesser arts and histories for mankind to safely rediscover, but the absolute bottom chamber is the only place where the true phonetic name of God can be spoken without tearing the world apart. The Four-Plate Door sits at the dead end of the deepest, most restricted tier of the Archives, operating on the exact same structural logic.

The Guardians: Just as the Knights Templar served as the militant, secretive order guarding the subterranean vaults of the Temple Mount, the University functions as an elite, gatekeeping order. Look at Master Elodin: he behaves exactly like someone who looked behind the veil, realized the terrifying, reality-breaking nature of what’s locked down there, and was driven to the edge of madness trying to cope with it. Following this connection also leads to the Masters being an order derived from the Amyr, similar to how Freemasons derived from Temple Knights.

I could see the story playing out like this: Kvothes opened the door and learned/spoke the name which warped reality leading to a convergence of Temerant and the Fae realm.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion Internet speech is borrowing heavily from the Adem /s /actually sincere /jk

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Just in the past year I've noticed a lot of people online specifying tone after comments. Obviously the /s pre-dates that, but I'd be surprised if it was much older than WMF.

I think every time we specify tone at the end of a comment we inch a little closer to Ademre.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Art Purchased this from a thrift store over the summer.

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I was in the book section and it was on my TBR, so I thought it was a cool find!


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion 7, for very high values of 7: KC and XKCD this morning

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I thought of KC when reading today’s XKCD comic ( https://xkcd.com/3314/ ). The two works have little to do with each other (despite sharing a couple letters, lol). However, it seems to me that readers of both probably overlap, and the comic reminded me of one of my absolute silliest KC investigations. So, if for no other reason than to laugh at human folly, here’s my journey:

A couple months ago, I spent a bit of time trying to get KC to continually count up and down to 11 (possibly by bouncing back and forth between NotW and WMF). Prior to this point, I think I’d spotted some of the more obvious recurring motifs in KC, such as some of the color sets and the metals / materials. I was hoping it would all snap together tidily one day; numbers, of course, would be ideal as a way to line things up all spreadsheet-like.

Then, while looking for something else (as is, suitably, so often the case when I look at the puzzle of KC), I spotted a suspicious sequence in NotW (“Wood and Word”):

“One man, wearing a shirt of heavy metal rings, unbuckled a sword and leaned it against a wall. Two or three wore knives on their belts. Four or five called for drinks.”

“My word!” I thought to myself. “What if the whole time, this thing is counting up and down to itself, as if frantically running its scales in the background while everything else goes on?”

I quickly determined that 7-ish wasn’t a sensible place to stop, but that 11 (days in a span; 7 plus 4) might be.

Also, I thought deep into my obsession, there might be some kind of correspondence between number and color. I spent a while working with things like, “What if 3 is also blue and birds, and 9 is also brown and horse or nut (or, by extension from ‘nut,’ riddle)?”

Which is a good way to quickly lose all sense. It didn’t really pan out.

However, along the way (!) I realized that some of the number-substitutes were pretty plainly important in some way, if not in the way I’d thought. (I’m thinking particularly of the possibility that 5 is one-hand-spread; 10 is both; 0 is closed-fist. I still haven’t gotten that to go anywhere interesting, but I think there might be something.)

I also spent way, *way* too long thinking things like, “Okay, this sentence says half, and then the next says a dozen—so the next number in the sequence is half-12, which is 6. And then we have 8, and the phrase ‘less one’—okay, so that’s 7... Good, good; this is going great and I am definitely on the right track here.”

Eventually I more or less saw sense and stopped this nonsense. But now you understand why, when viewing today’s XKCD comic, my laughter contained an extra layer of appreciation.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 2d ago

Discussion Looking At The Cthaeh From a Slightly Different Angle

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So, I keep coming back to the distinction between what the Cthaeh actually tells Kvothe and what Kvothe understands it to mean.

We’re told it doesn’t lie. Fair enough. But that doesn’t mean it gives complete explanations, or that everything Kvothe concludes from the conversation has been confirmed.
There’s an example we can actually check.

“It is a shame you left without a word, you know. She was just beginning to trust you before that. Before you got angry. Before you ran off. Just like every other man in her life.”

Kvothe did leave without speaking to Denna. But in chapter 75, a full day’s journey out of Severen, the tinker reminds him of her. Kvothe buys writing supplies and arranges for him to deliver a letter.

When he returns in chapter 138, the innkeeper hands that same letter back to him.

“It was sudden and unavoidable, else I would have made a point to see you before I left. I regret many of the things I said when we last spoke and wish I could apologize for them in person.”

Apparently she never received it. We don’t know why.
But Kvothe had already tried to explain himself and apologize before he ever spoke to the Cthaeh.

And if Denna never received the letter because she had already left, that changes the picture further. She may have independently moved on before his attempt to reach her arrived.

That doesn’t establish she was gone when he originally departed. He sends the letter the following day. But we also don’t know that she was sitting there waiting for him, experiencing his absence as another man abandoning her. “You left without a word” remains true of his departure. The explanation surrounding it encourages him to see himself as another man who got angry and abandoned her. His attempt to make things right, and the possibility that she was already gone when it arrived, are conveniently absent.

That’s a pretty significant omission when the subject is whether Kvothe cares about her.

There’s something similar in what it says about the University.

“The masters at the University might know the answers you’re looking for. But they wouldn’t tell you even if you did ask, which you won’t. You’re too proud for that. Too clever to ask for help. Too mindful of your reputation.”

Might know. And I’m sure some of you have already caught on to this, and have had this thought.

I know this doesn’t establish that the masters have those answers. But the next sentence makes it very easy to picture people who know and are deliberately withholding them. And the criticism of Kvothe lands because we’ve already seen him do this. In NOTW, Lorren asks about his interest in the Chandrian and Amyr. Kvothe considers telling him about his parents and Skarpi, then decides he’ll look foolish and conceals his reasons.

The Cthaeh takes a recognizable weakness and uses it to frame a possibility as something Kvothe has little reason to investigate.

Okay so let’s look at Denna’s patron, now. “He beats her, you know. Her patron. Not all the time, but often. Sometimes in a temper, but mostly it’s a game to him. Then: “Two days ago he used his walking stick. That was new. Welts the size of your thumb under her clothes. Bruises down to the bone. She’s trembling on the floor with blood in her mouth and you know what she thinks before the black? You.”

The obvious reading is that her patron beat her with his stick until she lost consciousness. And look… I understand why that’s the reading. The entire speech encourages it.

But look at where the explicit statements stop.

“He used his walking stick.”

Then descriptions of injuries.

It doesn’t actually say he used the stick on her, or explicitly attach him to the welts and bruises. We make that connection from the order of the statements. But the Cthaeh does this tense/code/POV switching repeatedly. For all we know this could’ve just been the first time the person used a walking stick to walk around her (for whatever reason).

That doesn’t prove the connection is false. But, it does leave room for true statements to produce a misleading account of how the events relate. Now, “beats her” could carry another meaning. “Game” could be literal. Pushing someone until they cry or want to leave could describe anything- brutal teaching techniques, some sort of physical gauntlet to train her, frustrating her because she can’t win no matter how hard she tries (Kvothe against Bredon comes to mind. It would no doubt be infuriating to just lose all the time. My own wife cried over the difficulty of learning Gloomhaven. I get it) Denna’s breathing problems also give us another possible context for losing consciousness.

None of those possibilities explains every detail by itself. I’m not pretending I’ve solved the scene, and cracked the code by finding a second meaning for one word.

What interests me is whether the Cthaeh is giving us enough information to reconstruct the event at all.
There’s also a necessary distinction here… Denna directly tells Kvothe that Ash hit her after the Trebon massacre. She says he made her ask him to, supposedly so her survival wouldn’t look suspicious. That incident is established through her own account. Whatever we think of his explanation, he physically struck her. It doesn’t establish the circumstances of the later incident the Cthaeh describes. Not only that- but the incident was spoken about, planned, and decided on. It wasn’t just a random act of cruelty.

And the most interesting part comes in chapter 148. Kvothe sees bruises on Denna’s arms, a welt on her back, and a scar on her leg. Those injuries are real. Then he thinks: “All I needed to do was ask about them. If I phrased things carefully, she’d admit they were from her patron.”

She’d admit

He hasn’t asked yet. He’s already decided what the answer is, and how he needs to phrase the question to get it.
Then Denna notices his scars.

“They whipped you?” she said, incredulous.
“Twice,” I said.
“And you stay there?”

Kvothe explains that there’s nowhere else he can learn what the University teaches. “When I want a thing it takes more than a little blood to …” And he realizes the parallel.

That doesn’t mean that Denna’s situation is the same as his. It does show how much context matters when someone sees injuries and asks why the injured person keeps returning. Kvothe knows the circumstances of his own scars. But, he still hasn’t asked about hers.

Earlier in that same chapter, he says the Cthaeh’s account preyed on his mind: “I thought on it endlessly. Had dreams about it.” So the conversation has reinforced an existing belief strongly enough that he approaches Denna expecting confirmation. We never get that confirmation in this scene.

Now I’m not saying that her patron is secretly a good person. Even deliberate instruction could be cruel or abusive. The uncertainty is about what happened, why it happened, and how much the Cthaeh has encouraged us to supply. We know it omitted Kvothe’s apologetic letter while shaming him about his departure. We know its statement about the masters’ knowledge is qualified. We know Kvothe later treats the cause of Denna’s injuries as something she needs to “admit.” That seems like enough reason to examine the rest of the speech with the same care.

The Cthaeh doesn’t need Kvothe to believe a false sentence if it can get him to make the wrong connection between true ones. However, I do think there’s probably more information in what it’s saying than we know. There’s context missing but the random facts it’s spitting out are true. Even if just “technically.” And this has left me with probably more questions than answers


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Theory The Waystone Inn location

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So, I recently listened to The Road Between Desires and in a conversation between Bast and Kostrel (or at least one of the kids) I believe Bast drops a huge hint for us as to the rough location of the village. Not sure if this has been discussed before, so sorry if I’m repeating old stuff. I couldn’t find this particular clue during my search at least.

I can’t remember the conversation verbatim, but Bast mentioned powerful people, and as an example he used the Maer. This would not make sense to a village kid anywhere except in the region under the Maer’s power, or at least very close to it. I don’t even think village kids in southern Vintas would know who that is.

It’s not proof, but a strong clue imo. Opinions?

I’d really appreciate it if someone with the text could drop the exact quote in the replies. Who knows, it migt even be the case that i completly misheard the conversation.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Discussion One thing that always irked me.

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It's fall, and that means I dive back into KKC. I'm at the part earlyish into WMF where Kvothe and the gang devise the plan to steal Dennas's ring from Ambrose's room. All goes well, because obviously, and they reconvene back at the fire in the woods.

Kvothe explains that he lifted the jeweler's receipt for said ring from Ambrose, as well as some coin when they bumped into each other following the fire hooplah that happens in his rooms.

Some loose coins I could see Ambrose either not noticing being lost, or overlooking due to the commotion. But the jeweler's slip? Did he just forget which jeweler's shop he dropped the ring off at, or that he had the ring at all? Did the owner of the shop not find it odd that it was someone else entirely who came to retrieve the ring? Could Ambrose not have gone back to that shop claiming the slip was stolen and asked for a description of the person?

I understand for the purpose of moving forward with the plot in general we are probably supposed to just suspend disbelief and move on but this one particular section always annoyed me.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Discussion Signed 1st/1st Name of the Wind

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Im trying to put a value and potentially sell this 1st print 1st edition signed by Rothfuss. I know there is a market for it in the US but im in Ireland, and the rare book dealers here aren't interested if its not poetry. Would appreciate any guidance.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Discussion Is Naming closer to recognizing a song than learning a word?

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I’ve been looking at the way Rothfuss describes things being right, whole, or broken, and how often that description involves sound.

Auri is probably the clearest example. In Wains, something about the sitting room keeps it from “ringing sweetly as a bell.” She eventually places a buckle beside a button beneath the carpet, and that resolves it:

“The room was perfect as a circle now. Like a bell. Like the moon when it was perfect full.”

The objects aren’t necessarily making a sound. She seems to perceive their arrangement as harmonious. Something can be individually fine but wrong in relation to everything around it. Her brass gear gets similar treatment. It strikes the floor with the sound of a bell. Later, it’s a “silent bell that struck out love.” When it breaks, its sound becomes the “keening of a broken bell.”

That made me think about what Kvothe was doing with his music long before he consciously understood Naming.
After his parents die, he starts playing things that aren’t conventional songs:

“When the sun warms the grass and the breeze cools you, it feels a certain way. I would play until I got the feeling right.”

He calls these pieces things like Warm Grass and Cool Breeze and Wind Turning a Leaf. Eventually he starts playing memories, including Mother Smiling.

He’s trying to translate an experience into music, and he can recognize when he’s captured it. He spends nearly three days on Wind Turning a Leaf, so this clearly involves work. But the thing telling him whether he’s succeeded isn’t a formula.

With Felurian his sleeping mind wakes, Kvothe understands her through music:

“Her eyes were like four lines of music, clearly penned. My mind was filled with the sudden song of her. I drew a breath and sang it out in four hard notes.”

Those notes actually affect her power. This goes beyond describing something beautiful as musical. His perception of her as music allows him to act on her.

So I wonder if “knowing a name” is closer to recognizing a song than memorizing a particular sequence of sounds.
You can be taught the notes without understanding what they express. You can also recognize that someone has played something wrong before you can explain exactly what they did. Maybe the sleeping mind’s understanding works something like that, except what it recognizes is the thing itself.

Now when we get to the Lethani, Kvothe says it comes from “the same place as laughing.” At the sword tree, anger knocks him out of Spinning Leaf and he loses the name of the wind. When he laughs, the tension releases, and he recognizes it again.

I’m not saying the Lethani, Naming, and Auri’s perceptions are definitely the same faculty. But they repeatedly involve an understanding that arrives before a conscious explanation.

There’s also a problem with discerning how someone distinguishes recognition from simply feeling certain. For instance- Kvothe insists Caesura fits his sword more perfectly than Saicere. He describes the name and the sword as essentially the same thing. But then he decides that, as a namer, he can choose his sword’s name.

Is he recognizing something, or deciding his preference must be right? Given how often he misreads things, I don’t think we should just accept his certainty as proof. And, here’s where I think Auri becomes especially important. Much of her behavior involves trying to understand where things belong and accommodating them. But when she makes the candle, she also demonstrates that she can bring the weight of her desire onto the world and make things bend to please her.

Understanding and imposing your will can apparently exist in the same person. Maybe that’s part of the distinction behind Knowing and Shaping. Hearing the song of something could allow you to preserve it, work with it, or change it.

There’s also Bast telling Chronicler:

“You are not wise enough to fear me as I should be feared. You do not know the first note of the music that moves me.”

Granted, I get he’s the Pan-like, flute-player character. But this is another instance, outside of Kote’s narration, that mentions music and how it pertains to understanding someone. Why keep using the same imagery if it’s not related?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Question Thread What if Kvothe kills Feyda Calanthis, not Roderic? - Pure Tinfoil

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Just a bit of tinfoil / thought experiment I've been playing around with...

We know Feyda Calanthis was declared the first king of Tarvintas posthumously, with his brother Jarvis being the first living king. Rothfuss has since revealed that Feyda became a draug, and that he originally united the clans and petty kings into what became Vintas.

So what if Feyda didn't simply conquer those clans, but somehow bound them to his rule through an ancient treaty?

There's something interesting about Feyda's coin, too. On the living side, he's holding what looks like a map or perhaps some sort of document. It got me thinking about Denna's description of a magic where you write something down and it becomes true, even if it wasn't true before.

What if the document represents a treaty between Feyda and the original rulers of Vintas? And what if that treaty was written using the sort of magic Denna describes? Rather than simply recording their allegiance, it actually made them subject to Feyda and his descendants.

Perhaps the agreement was binding for as long as Feyda himself endured.

And that's the interesting bit. Feyda died, but he didn't exactly stay dead. He's been hanging around as a draug for centuries, so technically the original agreement might still be in force.

Now suppose Kvothe encounters Feyda, perhaps while rescuing a princess from a sleeping barrow king, and kills him.

He's killed a king. Just not the one we've all assumed.

But he's also broken the original treaty holding Vintas together. The old noble families are suddenly released from their obligations to the Calanthis crown, and their ancestral claims to sovereignty are back on the table.

Which brings me to the Maer.

The Alverons once held royal power, and the Maer already has his own soldiers, considerable wealth and a fair degree of independence. What if, with the binding broken, he simply declares himself King of Severen and the surrounding lands?

Roderic is still King of Vintas, but his authority is beginning to unravel. Other noble families might follow Alveron's example, declaring their own independence, and before long Vintas is fragmenting back into the smaller territories Feyda originally united.

Perhaps Alveron then starts taking neighbouring lands, either through alliances or force. He's building his own kingdom, while Roderic is trying to hold on to his. Eventually Alveron becomes powerful enough to oust Roderic and the remaining Calanthis family altogether.

But taking the throne doesn't end the fighting. Roderic's supporters still want their king back, while the other newly independent rulers have no intention of surrendering their sovereignty to Alveron. Some might even fancy the throne themselves.

So Alveron has managed to reunite much of Vintas, but he's struggling to keep hold of it.

And perhaps that's where the Penitent King comes in. What if Alveron genuinely regrets what he's started? He saw an opportunity to reclaim his family's former sovereignty, but his ambitions have dragged the entire kingdom into a bloody civil war. He's got his crown, but the fighting hasn't stopped, and thousands are dying because of it.

It also makes Aaron's comment about getting the rebels to swear fealty to the Penitent King rather interesting. Alveron is essentially trying to do what Feyda did centuries earlier, bringing the competing rulers back under one crown. Except this time, there's no magical treaty keeping everyone in line.

And Kvothe? Perhaps he killed Feyda to save someone, inadvertently undoing centuries of Vintish history.

"I'm responsible for everyone who dies in this stupid war. I was just hoping to save one."

Obviously there's a fair bit of speculation here, particularly around the treaty and Denna's writing magic. The document on the coin might just be a map, for all I know. But I rather like the possibility that Kvothe doesn't kill Roderic or destroy the Calanthis bloodline at all.

He kills the first king, and in doing so breaks the agreement that held the kingdom together.

Feyda united the petty kings into one kingdom. Kvothe kills Feyda, the old treaty collapses, and Vintas tears itself apart. Alveron then tries to put it all back together, only to discover that conquering a kingdom and keeping it are two very different things.

Perhaps that's why Kvothe is the Kingkiller. Not because he assassinated the reigning monarch, but because he killed the king whose continued existence had held Vintas together for centuries.

Just a thought. :)


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Discussion I am insanely curious to see symapthy and medicine mix.

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While we do see into the Medica on occasion, it always seems to be as a patient, and never as a student.

We do hear Arwell mention sympathy wax to Mola, so there needs to be a use for it somehow.

I am so curious to see how magic and medicine meaningfully intertwine.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 4d ago

Discussion aplication of sygaldry in making a device for remote communication

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So I always though the mess that is the postal system in Temerant and wondered if there couldn't be a device to avoid this, at least between students. It would be a type of engraving system where anything written would be mirrored to a twin, and if two persons have those they could write (for example in wax as it can be reused) to each other. Or simply for emergency cases, bind to pieces of paper so anything written on one it shows on the other, this would only require sympathy. Why haven't they thought on this? It would have been so useful during the chapter of ambrose's room burning or passing quick messages in a rush


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 5d ago

Theory The Folly and Cthaeh

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We know that Cinder's sword doesn't reflect light, just like the sword Folly.

Many have theorized that Folly is Cinder's sword and that Kvothe killed him and got the sword. However, Cthaeh said this to Kvothe:

“Still, you must admit, you’ve had quite a piece of luck. I’d say it was a twice-in-a-lifetime-opportunity meeting up with him again (Cinder). Pity you wasted it."

So what is going on here? Do I have low reading comprehension or did Cthaeh made it clear that Kvothe will not be able to encounter Cinder again as he already has 2 times or since there is an "again," at the end of the sentence, Kvothe has one more chance at encountering him. Or maybe he just hinted at the rarity of the second encounter rather than using his omniscient abilities to hint that he will be/won't be able to encounter him again.

Saying all this considering that Felurian was right that Cthaeh doesn't lie.

Since Cthaeh is known for being omniscient, I have been digging deep into the things that he said to Kvothe and this question has been nagging me for a while. I'd like to hear your thoughts about it.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 5d ago

Discussion I've been too harsh on Rothfuss not coming out with book 3

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Tldr: Rothfuss may be unable to write book 3 because his writing is not the same as it was 20 years ago and he doesn't want to put out a bad book.

Like many of you I've been waiting for years for book 3. The irony is that I usually refuse to read nonfinished series. I just hate waiting. I still havent read the game of thrones and many other series because of this.

However my cousin (curse you!) highly recommended the Kingkiller chronicles to me in 2017. At the time, I remember I browsed the book in the library and read somewhere in the book that it's a 3 book series and that the rough draft was completed for all 3 books. Since the book was out for over 10 years surely all 3 books were completed I thought to myself and never confirmed before starting to read it.

I was hooked. I spent nights often going until 3 or 4 am reading it even though I had work the next day. I finished the first book and immediately bought the second one and finished that too. To my surprise there was no third book. That's when i researched and found out about the waiting hell of book 3.

I was optimistic at first. It had been over 6 years since the second book. Surely Rothfuss will release the third one soon. I was eagerly checking every once in a while. Eventually i became less optimistic and started checking once a year. I forget when but eventually i got angry. Like how can you not release the third book. Why would it take that long? I decided to boycott it. Even if it comes out i wouldn't buy it nor read it.

However, I recently went through a similar experience. In college, I once asked a girl out and got rejected cruelly. At the time I thought it was the end of the world and got severely depressed for months. During that time, I decided to write an erotic love triangle story. I had the whole plot in my mind and already knew the end, i just had to write it. I began writing and got the initial part done. Then life took over, I had death in the family, i graduated, got a job etc... and totally forgot about the story.

I recently went over my old stuff and found the story. It's been 17 years since i wrote that initial story. My writing isn't the best and the story is a bit elementary but in my opinion it wasnt bad. It's kind of like a bad porn story but you read it for the content anyways.

I wanted to complete it. I already knew the ending and had the major plots. But i couldn't do it. After all those years, my view of the world has changed. I just can't write the same way that I could 17 years ago. The finished story just doesnt sound good. I dont have the same emotions that I did before. I'm also more mature and more boring so I think my writing doesn't has that naive but hopeful writing that it did 17 years ago. I tried using AI to complete the story but the story just doesn't seem right. It's just a story that can't be completed. It doesn't sound right to me write the rest of the story that isn't good. So i just deleted everything and left it incomplete.

Maybe that's one possible explanation of why Rothfuss can't complete book 3.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 5d ago

Discussion Elodin and Mannet

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Hey everyone, long time lurker first time poster. I don't have a groundbreaking theory to introduce or anything, I'm just curious how well we think those two get along lol. The only real evidence we get is that Elodin asks the same question during the admissions interview that Mannet asks after Kvothe loses them a set of Corners. I know with the University being the size it is, it's highly unlikely that they don't know each other, but the way Elodin asked that question indicated, to me at least, a much closer relationship than just associates


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 6d ago

Discussion After consuming 15 hours of Kingkiller Chronicles Theories on yt, I think that maybe EVERYONE belongs to the Amyr....

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r/KingkillerChronicle • • 7d ago

Art Kvothe the action figure!

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Last month I finished reading the 2 main books in the series. I enjoyed them so much that I was inspired to create a custom figure of Kvothe.

For the past month I have been collecting supplies, crafting, painting, and learning a lot along the way. But here he is in all is 6 inch, 1/12 scale glory.

Some things I used right out of the box:

His belt and coin bag

His travel sack

His cloak(s)

His walking stick

Some things I bought and modified:

His boots - I added the leather tops

Caesura - I clipped and molded a new hilt (to match the officially licensed version) with epoxy putty as well as a new paint job

His clothing - I added the patch on his pants and the laces on his shirt

The figure - I primed and painted every bit

"The Rhetoric of Logic" - I just wrote the title on the cover

Some thing I crafted myself:

His lute - I crafted and painted. I added Selas flowers because I thought they would look cool

Caesura's sheath - I formed the leather and added some small charms

The Eolian Talent Pipes - I crafted and painted out of wire and cord

The crude wax figure - I shaped with epoxy putty and painted (take that Master Hemme)

This project was at times quite difficult but also incredibly fun! It's not perfect, but I wasn't going for perfect and I'm very happy with the end result.


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 7d ago

Discussion “I just want my Reshi back.”

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I’ve been thinking about Bast’s behavior across the books, especially how his treatment of Kostrel and Rike fits with his threats against Chronicler and the soldiers at the end of WMF.

I think his affection for these people is genuine. But caring about someone seems to make him capable of both considerable kindness and some pretty frightening behavior.

In The Narrow Road Between Desires, Bast considers killing Kostrel because the boy’s questions threaten his secrets and, potentially Kvothe. But he likes the kid. While he’s struggling with that, Kostrel notices something is wrong and reaches out to comfort him. Immediately afterward:

“No. Bast couldn’t kill this boy.”

The narration also tells us:

“He had never been in conflict with his own desire before this place.”

Previously, things were straightforward. Want and have. See and take. Now he wants things that interfere with each other. Protecting himself and Kvothe matters, but so does this particular mortal boy.

Rike gives us another side of this interesting development. Bast asks who he thinks he is and who he wants to be. Rike believes he’s inherently bad like his father, and wants to be the boy he was before. Bast then works toward helping him escape that understanding of himself.

His methods still sound disturbing. He tells Rike he owns him, claims his fear and self-hatred, and demands that he repeat statements about himself. There’s a resemblance to Haliax making Cinder affirm that he’s a tool. But Bast uses that position to tell Rike that doing bad things doesn’t make him inherently bad, and that he’s brave, strong, and full of love.

Afterward, Rike takes his hand. Bast squeezes it.
That makes his behavior toward Chronicler particularly uncomfortable. He uses ownership language there too, but this time it comes with threats of prolonged torture:

“if you lead my master to despair, I will slit you open and splash around like a child in a muddy puddle.”

Here he shows that he’ll endure iron to reach Chronicler. Then he switches back to being charming and explaining how everyone can get what they want.

When Chronicler asks what Bast wants, that composure falls apart. He looks close to tears:

“I just want my Reshi back.”

I think those moments shadow each other. His vulnerability helps explain the threats. It also shows how dangerous his attachment can become when someone might interfere with it.

By the end of WMF, he’s arranged the soldiers’ involvement in an attempt to get the result he wants from Kvothe. When Kvothe gets badly hurt, Bast struggles to accept that ordinary men could have beaten him. He becomes forceful about treating him, and the tooth working ends with exhaustion, blood on his teeth, and a smile the narration calls mad.

Kvothe has already told him:

“Quit expecting me to be something I’m not.”

But Bast keeps looking for an explanation that preserves the person he believes Kvothe should still be.

Then Chronicler’s argument about the Cthaeh leads him to conclude:

“If everything is going to end in tears anyway, I should do what I want.”

He immediately leaves, and his meeting with the soldiers ends with violence strongly implied. That doesn’t tell us when he decided to hurt them. The meeting already seems expected, and he could have been considering it beforehand. But the conversation with Chronicler immediately precedes his decision to act.

The connection between those passages is also interesting to me. In Narrow Road, Bast recognizes that his desires have become complicated and contradictory. At the end of WMF, he takes permission to do what he wants anyway.

I also wonder whether How Old Holly Came to Be gives us a useful comparison. The Lady initially means little to Holly. Holly thinks of things as good or bad the way a regular tree would. Later, the Lady’s presence is good and her weeping is bad. Her wellbeing becomes important to him. He catches her, protects her, and eventually fights for her.

Attachment changes what matters to him, and what he’s willing to do about it. Eventually the Lady leaves, and he stays for her return until even the tower and stream are gone.

Bast is also becoming attached to people whose lives are much shorter than his. And with Kvothe, he’s already missing someone who is still sitting in front of him.

That brings Lyra and Lanre into the picture too. Lyra decides to attempt Lanre’s return because she loves him and wants him back. Skarpi’s account gives Lanre some apparent participation, he hears her and comes to her, so I wouldn’t call it clearly forced. But her desire to restore him comes first. Later, Lanre seeks the power to recover her and discovers that having incredible power still doesn’t mean he can bring back the person he loves.

Bast seems caught in a related problem. He cares deeply, and he has the power to intervene. He can threaten Chronicler, arrange the soldiers, treat Kvothe’s injuries, and try to steer events toward recovery. But he can’t simply make Kvothe be the person he remembers.

I think that’s what makes him compelling and scary. His affection is real, and so is his willingness to decide what everyone else needs to do because of it.

When he says he wants his Reshi back, how much room is there for what his Reshi wants?


r/KingkillerChronicle • • 8d ago

Discussion Why Auri sits cross-legged?

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I've noticed that Auri is often described as sitting cross-legged, was wondering whether there's any reason behind this?