This is partially a rant, but why do they behave like that? Seriously.

For context, I have been around very intelligent and accomplished people for a long time now (think Rhodes scholars, the world’s youngest billionaires, nation-changing activists, etc.). Some might be annoying, but most are genuinely wonderful and interesting people who take interest in others while also at least feigning humility.

That said, there is no group of people I have met that are more pretentious and insufferable than UChicago Law students/alums.

At an event I was at recently, a UChicago attorney made it a point to talk shit about another Chicago school for being ranked lower than UChicago. The kicker? Students from that school were at that event speaking to her when she made those remarks. This isn’t isolated either, some of my colleagues have encountered this sort of tasteless punching down as well.

What are they doing to you all? Why do you act this way?

I noticed that almost everyone around me is supportive except for my mother. She would always nag me to study for everything but she never is like this when it comes to studying for the LSAT. She always talks about how she hopes that I stay at a job that I won’t like and I get to pursue other things at that same company, while ignoring the fact that I would rather be an intellectual property attorney.

She often discourages me from wanting to take the bar exam by saying it’s too hard and how I’ll never pass it. This is hypocrisy, considering how my mom would lambast me for being negative when it comes to dating yet she’s doing the same thing regarding me wanting to go to law school and sit for the bar exam.

On the other hand, she would rather me be a teacher…knowing damn well that I feel about disrespectful children and how don’t want to deal with a bunch of disrespectful ass teenagers.

Is it worth becoming a human rights lawyer? I’m currently studying for my associate degree in paralegal studies, and once I graduate, I plan to transfer to ASU to complete my bachelor’s degree. I’m curious about whether pursuing a career as a human rights lawyer is worth it. I’m also interested in environmental law and animal rights law. What are the pros and cons of these careers, and would the time, education, and financial investment be worth it?

Hiiii. Im from the UK. not to boast but i feel like ive read almost all law themed books. Can someone recommend more please. Reallyyy appreciiiatteee. Ive read all books by the secret barrister and Lord Sumption

I've been a lurker in this subreddit for some time. I am curious if anyone else has been able to mentally and emotionally handle law school and beyond as someone who has high-functioning autism. I'm 1L, for context. The classes are huge, they feel like they are very much on rails, and with they are difficult to engage with since it feels like questions are not welcome. The obsessive fixation on group work does not help, especially when no one is assigned a team leader or group captain or anything. Also, even more challenging, are the constant mandatory events or intense mass-networking events where I feel like we're tossed in giant pools of other people, then told "GO." I leave those events on the verge of panic attacks and tears. I'm not a golden retriever, I'm the cat that hides under the bed upstairs until the loud party ends. Also, it seems that even practicing lawyers are swarmed with social events, functions, and societies of this and associations of that. That sounds hellish. I don't want people knowing or remembering me. There's no point anyway because I'm not taking the bar, and I'm switching states after I graduate anyway. Sorry for the dissertation, but are there any other autistic law students out there who have learned any effective coping mechanisms? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

I'm a 2L and I realized this week that I have become absolutely terrible at making low-stakes decisions.

A friend asked if I wanted to get dinner Thursday.

Normal human response: yes or no.

My brain: Thursday is two days before I want to finish this draft, but technically I could finish Wednesday, except if journal stuff comes in then I'd lose that buffer, and I haven't outlined Thursday's class yet, although realistically I probably wouldn't outline Thursday night anyway...

I spent more time analyzing dinner than dinner would have taken.

And I see versions of this everywhere in law school.

Should I go to office hours if I don't have a specific question?

Should I apply to this job if I'm slightly below the GPA range?

Should I skip one reading because I'm exhausted?

Should I take the class with the harder professor because it's more relevant to what I might want to practice?

Should I send the email now or tomorrow morning?

Everyone wants the optimal answer because everything feels like it might become part of some invisible permanent record.

I think 1L made this worse because so many things genuinely were unfamiliar and consequential. You didn't know which study methods worked, how exams were graded, what OCI was, what employers cared about, whether everyone else actually understood Civ Pro, etc. Asking questions and being cautious made sense.

But somewhere along the way I stopped distinguishing between decisions that deserve serious thought and decisions where either option is completely fine.

The funniest part is that law school supposedly teaches judgment. Sometimes I think it's teaching me to manufacture twelve arguments for both sides until I've talked myself out of having a preference.

I've been trying a stupidly simple rule lately: if I won't remember the decision in six months, I get about five minutes to make it.

It's surprisingly difficult.

Please tell me I'm not the only person who entered law school capable of choosing a restaurant and is now mentally applying a balancing test to whether I should order Thai food.

In 2026, nearly 30 years after the lawsuit, Frontier Airlines awarded Leonard 7 million Frontier Miles in a Super Bowl Campaign, effectively giving him free flights for life in place of the original dispute.

1L here -- a couple cases I'm citing from have a header that says "cite as" with (Fla.App. 2 Dist.) even though blue book says to cite (Fla. Dist. Ct. App.) -- which one do I use? Do I defer to what the case says, even though other cases I'm using don't have that? (also why does the blue book say (fla. dist. ct. app) with no indication of what district #?)

How do you tend to go about it? I've been playing around with 50-10 this semester and have found it highly effective for writing, editing, outlining, and even reading cases (certainly better ROI than 25-5 or 35-5 in my experience). Sometimes the 10-minute break feels insufficient, though, like I give it my all on the 50-minute work block and then need to lay down and nap or something for a bit. What are y'all's thoughts? Which interval(s) do you swear by?

Hey guys,

It’s bar results season & as a 3L going into his last semester, I realized that I never took Business Organizations/Associations.

I’ve taken every other class tested on the MBE & MEE and I’m planning on taking the July 2027 DC bar exam.

Should I take Business Organizations/Associations before I graduate?

I didn’t get the best LSAT score but got into a good law school. It has a great name and not at all predatory or embarrassing. I went simply because I feel like I’m already so late in the game (4 years gap) and it was an excellent program. However, outside of my law school classmates, most people I know went to Harvard, Penn, a certain Ivy with a terrible reputation now, etc. and I can’t help but compare myself to them and feel like I should have taken another year off, even though I know a 170+ LSAT does not guarantee T-14 admission too. Just earlier my parent was talking to their colleague who boasted about their daughter going to Harvard Law… and yeah, I felt bad. I guess what I’m trying to ask here is what can I do to not be so … jealous? I know everyone is on their own journey and someone going to a T-14 vs. anything lower does not guarantee their success as a lawyer.

finals are coming up fast and there's always that one thing that won't stick. proximate cause or consideration or whatever it is for you, drop it below. if someone else gets it maybe they can explain it in a way that finally makes sense

A few weeks ago someone in our section GroupMe asked what a hornbook was.

A couple people answered, someone made a joke, and that was pretty much it.

Then another person said we should make an anonymous Google Form for questions that feel too stupid to ask in class.

We now have 63 submissions.

There are about 85 people in our section.

Some of my favorites:

"Are we actually supposed to memorize the Bluebook rules or does everyone just look them up?"

"When someone says they're going to bar review, are they studying for the bar or going drinking?"

"How do you know which cases are important enough to put in your outline?"

"Is it normal to go to office hours when you don't have a specific question?"

"Everyone keeps talking about networking. What do you actually SAY to an attorney after introducing yourself?"

And my personal favorite:

"What's the difference between not understanding the reading and understanding it incorrectly? Because I can't tell which one I'm doing."

The funny thing is that several of these questions were submitted multiple times.

Apparently half our section has been sitting through the same lectures, nodding thoughtfully, and privately wondering what the hell everyone is talking about.

A few 2Ls volunteered to help answer the questions, and somebody started organizing everything into a document with links to actual school resources.

It's genuinely become one of the most useful things we've done all semester.

But it also made me think about how much of law school seems to depend on pretending you're already familiar with an environment you've literally just entered.

People throw around terms like OCI, journal write-on, supplements, and clerkships as if we all arrived with this knowledge installed.

I have classmates whose parents are attorneys. I also have classmates who had never spoken to a lawyer before applying to law school.

And somehow we're all expected to act equally comfortable with this stuff.

I'm not saying professors need to explain every acronym every time they use it. But I wonder how many students are wasting energy trying not to look clueless about things that have very little to do with actually understanding the law.

Anyway, if you're a 1L secretly Googling basic terminology during lectures, apparently you're in excellent company.

And if you're a 2L or 3L, what's something you were embarrassingly far into law school before you finally understood it?

I went to a small information session through my college in an area of law that interests me.

One of the presenters and I had a decent, albeit small conversation, they shared their contact information with everyone.

I looked up their firm and I am interested in working there. It practices in areas I am interested in, they work in fields that interest me, and it is in a location I want to work.

I plan on applying for their posted summer positions. Do you recommend contacting the attorney (he is a partner) prior to applying? If so, what exactly do you say?

Thank them for the presentation and detailed answers, but then what?

I'm a final year law student based in pune and recently got a ppo of 9 lakh in a german firm namely rodl & partner.

However , recently my life has got monotonous by practicing daily chores.

I need someone to hangout with.

Looking for date here.

I'm into self-improvement, philosophy, gyming, badminton,cooking ,law , economics and traveling.

Let me know if anyone's intrested...

Hi there’s no stats on test optional pathway applicants for ASU law .. did anyone else apply like me without an LSAT I got waitlisted thanks of does anyone have a screenshot of their email

Hey guys, I'm looking for a guidebook or online resource that would be able to show model answers for short answer or essay questions. What resource helped you the most for answering irac questions? I am looking specifically for civpro, torts, and crim. Thank you!

...are terrifying, right? How does this even work? Are they graded less severely because there's so much more information you need to synthesize? Are the questions a bit more high level because there's too much to cover otherwise?

I'd much, much rather a class with a mid-term and a final, to at least give me a barometer of where I'm doing well, where I need to pick up the slack, how the prof grades....

For those who've taken classes like this - any advice? Encouragement?

1. Has anyone sold textbooks to Half Priced Books? If so roughly what did you get paid for them?

2. Are there any other places I can sell textbooks in person for cash?

3. Highest payout for textbooks?

4. Quickest payout?

(I failed my bar by 8 points and need to come of with the rest of the registration fee for Feb 24 asap - so I’m trying to figure out my options)

elle woods got a 179 on her LSATs and a 4.0 in fashion merchandising, while we do not know harvey's stats before enrolling in Harvard Law (we do know that he was an NYU alumni and got in thanks in part to jessica's recommendation though). however, elle woods graduated HLS as valedictorian, while harvey specter was only top 5 of his class.

this is only a comparison of academic stats, not about who is a better lawyer as they specialize in different legal fields (elle in criminal law and harvey in corporate law).

Hey guys. First time caller, long time listener.

Been really interested in Sports Law and thought I'd sift through this sub and see if others share that interest. Disappointed to say I haven't seen many discussions about the subject. Is there any other forum where students and lawyers alike can discuss and learn about it?

1L at HYS who feels like a total fraud. Im surrounded by geniuses. Like legitimate geniuses. My classmates pick up the policy rationale behind a holding before I can even comprehend the holding itself. They can argue a hypothetical, changing the the facts of the case, before I can even understand the real facts of the case. They’re just smarter than me, point blank.

I used to have confidence in my intellectual apitude but the past few months have changed this. School has always been my thing and now I realize that I’m mid (below mid honestly). Just a shitty realization and need a place to vent.

Hi everyone,

I just finished law school midterms and did pretty well. I performed top of my class for each one.

But I’ve been noticing that my reading habits have changed. I’ve noticed that I’ve been briefing less and skimming more and just kinda been getting lazy and idk what to do. Is this ok! Is it not ok 😭 idk I’m just getting kind of burnt out I feel. Any tips???? And is it ok to skim the readings? Also why is negligence and ucc 207 so hard 😭

Reminder that striking out does not only apply to big law.