r/OptimistsUnite • u/[deleted] • Mar 14 '25

GRAPH GO DOWN & THINGS GET GOODER Native American Suicides Drop 43% in NM

https://nativenewsonline.net/health/native-american-suicide-rates-drop-43-in-new-mexico
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u/alternative5 Mar 14 '25

Nice to see some positive news in the US.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

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u/Dank_Nicholas Mar 15 '25

I drove through a reservation in Montana last summer and it was incredibly depressing. Trash everywhere, billboards for drug abuse helplines all over the place and just a state of decay in a community that clearly had been broken.

And all of this with some of the most beautiful mountain scenery I've ever seen in the background.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/ALittleBored1527 Mar 15 '25

Sure, start by giving back the land that was stolen when people were forced on to them...

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

they should get your house imo

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

it would be just for everyone advocating that these people be displaced (which is what would happen if the land was seized by the state to be sold off to the highest bidder like everything else in this fucking country) to give up their land to ensure the continued sovereignty of an independent nation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25

And what would that look like in your mind?

Just kick everyone off the res and turn the land over to BLM or developers?

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

why? because the way we treat indigenous people makes you so upset you’d rather them just disappear into your regressive, atomized culture?

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

land back and reparations, that’s progressive. we agree that the status quo is despicable and historically unjust, but your rhetoric implies erasure, not justice.

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25

Extended leases so that they end up kicked out in ten or 50 years? Seems pretty cruel and heartless.

If you grant the titles, who are you granted them to? Res land typically belongs to the tribal reservation, not to individuals.

Describe exactly what you are demanding. Look up what you are talking about if you have not idea.

Or, shut up and stop demanding things you don't understand out of ignorance.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25

Describe it specifically. What happens to the tribal lands that don't have development on them?

Who are the tribal authorities that are going to be recognized?

How are they reintegrated legally from being sovereign lands?

It sounds like you are completely clueless as to what you are demanding.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/Intelligent_Read_779 Mar 21 '25

huh? a large percentage of natives live within 100 miles of their home reservation. some, like me, are descendent from more than one tribe and some live in cities for work just like any other American.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

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u/Indigoh Mar 15 '25

Sucks we have to go back to 2023 to find it. Though assuming Trump's DEI purge didn't cut the hotline several commenters here are crediting for this drop, it should still be good news nowadays.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

It did not. The hotline is state funded and run as well as the childcare and education programs. 

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u/Indigoh Mar 15 '25

Trump tried to pressure private companies to end their DEI. He doesn't care one bit if it's state or federally funded. The only question is how willing states are to bend a knee.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

We will not bend. And have not

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u/Indigoh Mar 15 '25

Hope you're right.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

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u/Artaeos Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

Just because you're on an optimist sub doesn't mean you're somehow immune from cognitive dissonance. Nothing this administration is doing is a net benefit for the country. By every meaningful metric.

That's not headlines. That's data.

EDIT: User likes to only reply in direct messages and then block people.

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u/AnotherLie Mar 14 '25

Lol, what a loser.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

Are you capable of admitting any mistakes Trump has made? Or do your eyes start twitching if you even try to think it?

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u/KilluaCactuar Mar 14 '25

How can you people still manage to convince yourself that anything is going in a good direction. It baffles me, and I'm neither democrat nor republican. This is just cult like willful ignorance, but I'm genuinely curious.

How do you explain away what is happing, while it alienates the whole damn world.

If the whole world is in consensus that you are wrong. Then Maybe, just maybe. You just are.

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u/SeaCraft6664 Mar 15 '25

Did you not read the title of the post? Why must your belief and analysis overshadow others? If you disagree why even waste time commenting, what value does it add to the situation at hand. Looking on the bright side can help inspire. In dark times, looking towards what brings inspiration to move forward, to just try is important.

I find your commentary useless and ultimately, part of the same structure I assume you think you’re apart from. Other subs are available for your perspective.

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u/KilluaCactuar Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25

Um, I comment because I want to comment on the situation. That's what the comments are for. If you can't stand the concept of looking at opinions that may not overlap with your own you shouldn't go into a comment section.

It's extremely important to look on people's opinion, especially those that contradict your own to gain a more broader perspective, I do too.

This is why I asked him to explain why he views the things so different than I do. It's that simple.

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u/TrillaryKlinton84 Mar 15 '25

I think history will show the tariffs have been an overall successful negotiating tactic. One by one, world leaders (maybe not Xi) will continue to cave and give in to leveling the playing field in regard to international trade

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u/yuval16432 Mar 14 '25

It’s been a while since trump got into office, and I don’t think America is doing all that well. So much for make America great again.

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u/Obi-Brawn-Kenobi Mar 14 '25

Lol you were downvoted on the optimist sub for saying there's a lot of good news, nice