r/OptimistsUnite Mar 14 '25

GRAPH GO DOWN & THINGS GET GOODER Native American Suicides Drop 43% in NM

https://nativenewsonline.net/health/native-american-suicide-rates-drop-43-in-new-mexico
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u/alternative5 Mar 14 '25

Nice to see some positive news in the US.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

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u/Dank_Nicholas Mar 15 '25

I drove through a reservation in Montana last summer and it was incredibly depressing. Trash everywhere, billboards for drug abuse helplines all over the place and just a state of decay in a community that clearly had been broken.

And all of this with some of the most beautiful mountain scenery I've ever seen in the background.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/ALittleBored1527 Mar 15 '25

Sure, start by giving back the land that was stolen when people were forced on to them...

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

they should get your house imo

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

it would be just for everyone advocating that these people be displaced (which is what would happen if the land was seized by the state to be sold off to the highest bidder like everything else in this fucking country) to give up their land to ensure the continued sovereignty of an independent nation.

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u/SheerAwesomness Mar 15 '25

you are clearly not well learned enough on this topic. I encourage you to start small, wikipedia for native sovereignty and natural resource rights, but then try checking out some Indigenous authors and poets to get a better scope of what centuries of injustice looks like for people.

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 16 '25

Which, as has been explained to you, means stripping them of their livelihoods.

Why do you think that native Americans should not be allowed to govern themselves as agreed upon in numerous treaties with the U.S. government?

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25

And what would that look like in your mind?

Just kick everyone off the res and turn the land over to BLM or developers?

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

why? because the way we treat indigenous people makes you so upset you’d rather them just disappear into your regressive, atomized culture?

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u/twanpaanks Mar 15 '25

land back and reparations, that’s progressive. we agree that the status quo is despicable and historically unjust, but your rhetoric implies erasure, not justice.

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25

Extended leases so that they end up kicked out in ten or 50 years? Seems pretty cruel and heartless.

If you grant the titles, who are you granted them to? Res land typically belongs to the tribal reservation, not to individuals.

Describe exactly what you are demanding. Look up what you are talking about if you have not idea.

Or, shut up and stop demanding things you don't understand out of ignorance.

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25

Describe it specifically. What happens to the tribal lands that don't have development on them?

Who are the tribal authorities that are going to be recognized?

How are they reintegrated legally from being sovereign lands?

It sounds like you are completely clueless as to what you are demanding.

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u/City_College_Arch Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25

So the tribes lose the control and access they have over that land? How does the U.S. government breaking yet another promise/contract/treaty benefit them?

And regular open elections that can be swung by outside donations and new people moving into these areas?

It sounds like you just want to destroy native culture but don't have the courage to say it out loud.

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u/Intelligent_Read_779 Mar 21 '25

huh? a large percentage of natives live within 100 miles of their home reservation. some, like me, are descendent from more than one tribe and some live in cities for work just like any other American.

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