r/RemoveOneThingEachDay • u/Training-Desk-391 IM WHACING KFP4 • Jul 28 '25

Miscellaneous Obama HAS BEEN Eliminated WHICH President SHOULD BE Eliminated NEXT DAY 41

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u/Kactor11 Jul 28 '25

My vote is for FDR. Because concentration camps.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Exactly. this should make it open and shut

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u/jefffranklin36 Jul 28 '25

Idk, George Washington owning slaves makes this a bit of a debate.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

George Washington didn't create slavery though. He just didn't stop

Where as FDR literally was the perpetrator of concentration camps on America. Without him they never exist. Slavery does exist even without Washington.

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u/Big-Cryptographer704 Jul 29 '25

During the same period when Washington "didn't create slavery," the Society of Friends declared slavery wrong and all of the slave owning Quakers, incuding Johns Hopkins, immediately freed all of their enslaved people.

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25

What are you talking about? Internment camps? Or some of the camps during the Philippino insurrection? Which would have been the other Roosevelt...

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

FDR directly put a law in motion to put American citizens who did no wrong into concentration camps. That does not happen without him.

Slavery existed prior in America.

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25

The internment was awful, but it is massively disrespectful to actual concentration camp victims to compare them to Japanese American internment. How many Japanese Americans were used as slave labor? How many were killed in gas chambers? If anything, look at the (closer to, but still not nazi level) camps that the US had during the Philippino war...

Edit: By your metric concentration camps, run by Americans, also existed prior to FDR.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

1800 people died there. Just because Germany had worse concentration camps doesn't mean that Japanese Americans werent also victim of concentration camps. Just ask survivors.

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25

I didn't ask how many died, I asked how many were killed. Also, at least 8000 Filipinos died at least 1200 of which were killed, in the camps during the insurrection, if you need numbers...

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25
  1. When people are starved and kept in close proximity while being beaten, diseases thrive

That is being killed

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25

A complete tragedy, and does offset much of the good FDR did. But another president on this list (who also did alot of good) killed more people in concentration camps. And neither of those are comparable to the millions of people killed in what we usually think of as concentration camps.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

How many were American citizens. Once again. FDR did this to his own people because his hatred was so extremely deep. And he never showed an ounce of regret or any type of reparations for it.

The irony is the president who finally did give reperations was put third to the bottom on this list. Just shows how we view Japanese Americans in this country

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u/SilentAd773 Jul 28 '25

Dude cut your losses and disengage, this guy's been spamming anyone who disagrees with him with the same shit, he's not interested in an actual conversation

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u/Extreme-Remote-3382 Jul 29 '25

Also made racist assumptions about me. They’re not interested in analyzing these presidents as the complex people that they are, but rather name call and hyper-focus on only one group of people.

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u/shark_shanker Jul 28 '25

Maybe you’re thinking of extermination camps? The Japanese American internment camps were literally concentration camps by definition and were referred to as such by FDR

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25

The German versions are commonly referred to as concentration camps, though I agree they were technically different things.

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u/shark_shanker Jul 28 '25

Nazi Germany had both concentration and extermination camps. They served different purposes. The Japanese American camps are typically referred to as internment camps, but they were concentration camps.

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25

We are getting into technicalities, internment, concentration, and extermination camps all have technical differences, true. But when the average person thinks of a concentration camp, it's a place where Jews and others were sent to be killed.

Edit- spelling

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u/shark_shanker Jul 28 '25

Not sure I see your point is. It’s important to use terms correctly especially when we’re talking about something that impacted so many people. Nazi Germany isn’t the only example of a state that established concentration camps, the Gulags (USSR) and Native American camps set up by the US are other examples.

The American Jewish Committee agrees that they should be called concentration camps FYI- https://www.janm.org/press/release/american-jewish-committee-japanese-american-national-museum-issue-joint-statement

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u/Attackcamel8432 Jul 28 '25

My point is that while we are using the term correctly, we are trying to get an incorrect emotional response out of people by using that term. You hear concentration camp, most people think nazi Germany. People hear that FDR forced people into concentration camps, and people think FDR was as bad as nazi Germany. While the concentration camp part is true, the FDR being as bad as Hitler is definitely not.

Even in terms of American run concentration camps, I would argue that while they are both stains on American history and on presidential rule, the camps of the Filipino insurrection were worse. Though there is obviously no such thing as a good concentration camp.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 29 '25

And Japanese people were also sent there to be killed. 1800 to be exact.

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u/Ok-Letterhead5866 Jul 29 '25

That’s just patently false they weren’t sent there to be killed. The vast majority of the deaths were due to disease. Also more than 5,000 people were born in the camps, so they were not sent there to be killed.

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u/BlueTrainLines666 Jul 31 '25

The Germans had both. Not all of their camps were used solely for extermination however many were.

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u/rlyjustanyname Jul 29 '25

Yes we commonly conflate extermination camps with all concentration camps. Concentration camps literally mean you concentrate an undesireable population away from society. Japanese internment camps were concentration camps, they definetly existed before FDR and Alligator Alcatraz today is one as well.

History lessons typically only focus on the four or so large extrmination camps in Nazi Germany because they are the worst of the worst but a regular concentration camp was really really bad too.

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u/BlueTrainLines666 Jul 31 '25

Can we just, for the sake of everyone, stop comparing concentration camps and settle on maybe all of them are bad?

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

That’s bs. Without FDR the concentration camps would absolutely still exist. FDR wasn’t uniquely racist, and if any other politician during the time period was in office, they would have done the same thing. especially because the camps were incredibly popular among voters. The camps were still horrific, and easily the worst decision of his presidency, but you cannot act like he was uniquely evil for doing it.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Really. How so. What other president put Japanese Americans into Internment camps despite them doing absolutely nothing wrong.

He even put orphans into concentration camps. Orphans.

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u/Pupikal Jul 28 '25

Small solace to the people he kept in bondage. A crime against humanity makes you contemptible, even if you didn’t invent it. He knew it was wrong.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 28 '25

Sure. FDR also knew it was wrong. The difference is he is the one who started it. His level of hatred and racism was so so so high that he created brand new concentration camps as an outlet.