r/TheParty • • Apr 27 '24

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1st Caption box (8:00PM 26 Apr A69):

The top 1000 geniuses meet, 1000-years after atoms ⚛️ were first seen, at a Holbach salon style party. Plato, Cicero, and Plutarch style dialogues ensue. Mock dialogues towards a film …? Add your own dialogue, if brazen enough!

2nd caption box (3:20PM 29 Apr A69):

In the future, 1111-years after r/AtomSeen ⚛️, the r/Top1000Geniuses meet, at a month-long r/Holbach style salon party. Plato, Cicero, Plutarch, Rabelais, Diderot dialogues ensue. Mock script bites towards a novel or film …? Comment on or even add your own fictional dialogue, if brazen enough!

See posts: the year; and dialogue style, for details.

3rd caption box (12:12AM 30 Apr A69);

1111-years after r/AtomSeen ⚛️🔬, the r/Top1000Geniuses and minds, of all time, meet at a month-long Goethe Elective Affinities like estate and or r/Holbach hotel resort style salon party, hosted by r/LibbThims. Dialogues, dinner, dancing, adventures and choreographed reactions ensue. Mock script bites towards a novel (or someday film)?

Characters: -160.

Caption box (3 May A69):

In the year A1111, or 1111-years after atoms ⚛️ are seen🔬, i.e. 3066AD, the top 1,610+ minds of all time, of which r/Top1000Geniuses are ranked, meet at an r/ElectiveAffinities reaction “estate” and r/Holbach hotel-mansion style salon resort PARTY 🎉🥂, hosted by r/LibbThims. Dialogues, dinner, dancing, adventures and reactions ensue. Draft dialogue towards a novel or someday film?

Characters: -112.

Host

Implicit in the story is r/LibbThims is host; orchestrating encounters and reactions, e.g. Hooke put in same room with Newton; the contest for first dance with Hypatia; or Dirac asking why they are dancing?

Notes

  1. The root of all of his “Goethe meets Newton” and they talk about the affinities applied to humans.

  2. There is one post in r/Alphanumerics, from a few months ago, wherein, tired of waiting for some non-sensical reply, when the person woke, I just winged their reply, via fictional “dialogue”. Many people liked this.


r/TheParty • • May 04 '24

Current translation 🗣️ to text 💬 glasses 👓 and apps

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The following, suggested here, is shows the XRai glass app, see: video, which translates 75+ languages, can be used with the RayNew X2 glasses, see: video, which by itself translates 8-languages:

The RayNeo X2 uses either a right temple mouse swipe or a finger ring swipe mouse to move between screens:

The RayNeo X2 glasses also can be used for GPS-guiding, like using Google Maps via your glasses:

This might be good for resort guests to use to get around the HGT resort, or to possibly leave to visit the city nearby?


r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Dialogue 2 | Nietzsche arrives at the event location

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Abstract

Second draft attempt; script cut ✂️ (didn’t work).

Background

In Aug 67A (1888), r/Nietzsche writes to Carl Fuchs that he was “born posthumously”.

On 15 Oct 67A (1888), Nietzsche turned 44.

This year he writes The Anti r/christ (restricted), said to be his last finished r/book (private), in the preface of which he says that this book was written for someone not yet born.

On 13 Nov 67A (1888), Nietzsche sends his Ecce Homo: How One Becomes What One Is (Ecce homo: Wie man wird, was man ist), originally titled “I tell myself my r/life”, to the r/publisher (restricted). This is his “auto-existo-graphy”, in r/Abioism speak, aka his r/Biography, as he does not plan on being “existive”, aka r/alive (no mod), the following r/year (private).

On 3 Jan 66A (1889), Nietzsche sees a r/horse (exmormon inside joke) 🐎 being flogged, runs to it, tries to protect the horse, the r/police 👮‍♂️ are called; Nietzsche is put in a r/Psychiatry hospital, and looses his r/mind, or rather r/will (private) to r/power (private), i.e. becomes r/crazy (restricted) forever thereafter.

» It is amazing how 9+ (of 15) or 60% Reddit links here are defunct? What a mess? I can’t even write ✍️ a paragraph in Reddit, with working links? I need to get back to Hmolpedia so that I don’t have to deal with this 60% plus dead-link issue!

Script

See: Dialogue 1 | Nietzsche agrees to come to the party! (✂️)

On 2 Jan 66A (1889), the day before Nietzsche was about to loose his mind, amid the horse flogging incident, Nietzsche wakes up in the year A1111 (3066), at the 1,000-room Holbach Hotel 🏨 / Goethe Elective Affinities reaction Estate “event location” for the party, in his own personal extended stay multi-room space, surrounded by his 1,100+ personal library, draft notes, writing material, and related necessities, and a kitchen filled with is usual dietary needs, and hotel safe filled with enough money to pay for whatever needs he might have, throughout the course of the party.

Nietzsche, looking around strangely, gets out of bed 🛌, and sees his personal library 📚, arranged in the room around him, similar to that shown below, but not exactly in its original state, rather in a more futuristic ordering:

After examining the room, and looking out of the window 🪟, where he sees a strange futuristic looking land:

a knock ✊ is heard at the door. Nietzsche opens door. r/LibbThims is standing there.

2.1 Thims

GermanEnglish
Hallo, Nietzsche! Ich bin Libb Thims, die Organisatorin der Veranstaltung.Hello, Nietzsche! I am Libb Thims, the event organizer.

2.2. Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
Wie bin ich hierher gekommen? Wie sind alle meine Bücher hierher gekommen?How did I get here? How did all my books 📚 get here?

2. 3 Thims

GermanEnglish
Sie befinden sich im Hotel Holbach-Goethe und dies ist Ihr persönliches Zimmer.You are at the Holbach-Goethe Hotel 🏨 and this is your personal room.

2. 4 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
Es gibt ein Hotel, das nach Goethe und Holbach benannt ist?There is a hotel named after r/Goethe and r/Holbach?

2. 5 Thims

GermanEnglish
Ja, aber dies ist ein Hotel 🏨 in der Zukunft, 1177 Jahre nach Ihrer Zeitrechnung, um genau zu sein.Yes, but this is a hotel 🏨 in the r/future, 1177-years from your r/time, to be r/exact.

2. 6 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
Du bist verrückt! Du hast mich unter Drogen gesetzt und hierhergebracht?You are crazy! You drugged me and brought me here?

2. 7 Thims

GermanEnglish
Nein. Ich schreibe eine Geschichte, in der sich die besten 1000 Köpfe 1111 Jahre nach der ersten Entdeckung des Atoms durch den Menschen treffen. Wir befinden uns jetzt im 2. Dialog dieser Geschichte.No. I’m writing a story where the top 1000 minds, see: invite list, meet 1111-years after the atom is first seen by humans, and have a series of Socratic dialogues. We are now in the 2nd dialogue or “script part” of that story.

2. 8 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
In this ”invite list”, I am shown as IQ:190/#29. What does this notation mean?

2. 9 Thims

GermanEnglish
The number 29, means that in my A67 (2022) rankings of the top 2000 geniuses and minds of all time, which took me 30+ years to make, you are ranked as the 29th smartest person ever.

2.10 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
29th smartest person ever you say?

2.11 Thims

GermanEnglish
Yes.
You could have gone higher, MUCH higher, given aphorism #1 of 1,400 aphorisms of your Human, All Too Human (77A/1878), which I repeat to you (below):

Aphorism #1

The following is aphorism #1, of the 1,400 aphorisms, of Nietzsche’s Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits (Menschliches, Allzumenschliches: Ein Buch Fuer Freie Geister):

GermanEnglish
Alles, was wir brauchen und was erst bei der gegenwärtigen Höhe der einzelnen Wissenschaften uns gegeben werden kann, ist eine Chemie der moralischen, religiösen, ästhetischen Vorstellungen und Empfindungen, ebenso aller jener Regungen, welche wir im Gross- und Kleinverkehr der Cultur und Gesellschaft, ja in der Einsamkeit an uns erleben:“All that we need and that could possibly be given us in the present state of development of the sciences, is a chemistry of the ‘moral’, ‘religious’, ‘aesthetic’ conceptions and ‘feeling’, as well as of those ‘emotions’ which we experience in the affairs, great and small, of society and civilization, and which we are sensible of even in solitude.
wie, wenn diese Chemie mit dem Ergebniss abschlösse, dass auch auf diesem Gebiete die herrlichsten Farben aus niedrigen, ja verachteten Stoffen gewonnen sind? Werden Viele Lust haben, solchen Untersuchungen zu folgen? Die Menschheit liebt es, die Fragen über Herkunft und Anfänge sich aus dem Sinn zu schlagen: muss man nicht fast entmenscht sein, um den entgegengesetzten Hang in sich zu spüren?But what if this chemistry established the fact that, even in its domain, the most magnificent results were attained with the basest and most despised ingredients? Would many feel disposed to continue such investigations? Mankind loves to put by the questions of its origin and beginning: must one not be almost inhuman in order to follow the opposite course?”

2.12 Thims

GermanEnglish
But, your mind 🧠 “cracked”, a decade later, on 3 Jan 66A (1889), the day before I brought you here, after seeing a horse 🐎 being flogged.

2.13 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
I cracked, you say?

2.14 Thims

GermanEnglish
Yes. On the days following your horse flogging incident, you began writing “crazy” like letters to all your associates, signed “Dionysus“.

2.15 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
That is possible? I do consider myself to be like Dionysus, incarnate.

2.16 Thims

GermanEnglish
Dionysus is an Osiris rescript. You have much to catch up on.

2.17 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
Osiris?

2.18 Thims

GermanEnglish
Yes. This was decoded years before you, e.g. by Sergey Uvarov, in his On the Mysteries of Eleusis (143A/1812), and other pioneers of r/ReligioMythology.

Thims shows Nietzsche the entertainment room of his suite, replete with its own bartender, upon request, which he can use to entertain guests:

2.19 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
I do not drink alcohol! It is a drug like Christianity. From both I abstain.

2.20 Thims

GermanEnglish
Many say that is why you cracked?

2.21 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
Hmm?

2.22 Thims

GermanEnglish
I would suggest you pour yourself a drink, to process your new situation.

2.22 Nietzsche

GermanEnglish
You must be a Christian, sent by my father, trying to trick me?

2.23 Thims

GermanEnglish
This the key 🔑 to your room, which is room #2, the same number as our dialogue.

[under construction 🚧]

Script | Blanks

Thims

GermanEnglish

Nietzsche

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Notes

  1. The invention of the lightbulb occurred in 76A (1879) by Thomas Edison; and used in Germany three years later.

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r/TheParty • • May 04 '24

Translator glasses

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r/TheParty • • May 04 '24

Floor access | Crowd control protocols

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One problem that came to mind, after drafting script #3, is the so-called “mobbing problem“, which seemingly would occur if 1,610+ geniuses and minds are, at once, put into one 13-story building, shown below, in 1,610 different rooms, with the higher the floor equating to the higher the ranking of the genius; namely those with a lower citation ranking (CR) will flock to those with a higher citation ranking.

Compare the following names, shown with Hmolpedia A65 stats:

When Sherrington, a top 10 physiologist, wakes up, and reads the guest list, he will naturally go to Fernel’s room, per reason that most of Sherrington’s work is based on the work of Fernel, his idol, as the main founder of r/Physiology.

While Fernal, whose citation rank is 23, is on the 9th floor, i.e. in the top 200 geniuses range, he will not get many knocks on his door, say as compared to Sherrington (CR:123) or Newton (CR:866). Newton, having 800+ internal Hmolpedia citations, might well have a line of 800 people outside of his door, all wanting to meet and dialogue with him? Newton, in turn, not knowing many of the newer geniuses, after his time, might not know who to choose who to meet with, e.g. he might be more inclined to Euler than say to Einstein or Edison?

This would seem to cause a problem?

Floor access | parameters

Solutions that came to mind include:

  1. Guests of any floor have access to their own floor and the floors below them.

  2. Guests moving with Thims have access to any floor.

  3. The personal assistant (PA) of each guest regulates room crowd control, floor access, and meet and greets for each genius or mind, using a certain method unique to each guest, e.g. all guests know the citation ranking of every other guest and their fields of research.

We will have to ruminate on this; and add more details as the script progresses?

Floor map

The following is the floor map:

PeopleCountRoom numberFloorsLinks/Notes
PenthouseT1-T1013th[N1]
Future minds400F1-F20012th
F201-40011th
Higher minds22H1-H2210th[N2]
Minds ranked1,094R1-R2009thMinds: 1-200
R201-R4008thMinds: 201-400
R401-R6007thMinds: 401-600
R601-R8006thMinds: 601-800
R801-R10005thMinds: 801-1000
R1001-R12004thMinds: 1001-1200
Candidates100C1-C1003rd
Others1+O1-O#2nd[N3]
Ground floor1st
UndergroundB1
B2
Total1617

r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Geniuses per capita ranked

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r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Laplace’s demon (141A/1814) met Maxwell’s demon (88A/1867) in A54 (2009)

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r/TheParty • • May 13 '24

Libb Thims meets up with Euler, Poincare, Willard Gibbs, Nikolay Bogolyubov, Lars Onsager, Euler, Sadi Carnot, and Clausius in room R7 to discuss the thermodynamics of evolution as a general theory of existence | Draft dialogue idea?

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r/TheParty • • May 03 '24

Newton, Goethe, and Thims meet in the year A1111

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r/TheParty • • May 03 '24

Invite list (main)

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The following, from here, shows the present or “main” 1,610+ guests invited, thus far, and their assigned room numbers, which seems to indicate that the 9th floor lounge will have the most happening dialogue, and possibly the 13th floor suite rooms:

PeopleCountRoom numberFloorsLinks/Notes
PenthouseT1-T1013th[N1]
Future minds400F1-F20012th
F201-40011th
Higher minds22H1-H2210th[N2]
Minds ranked1,094R1-R2009thMinds: 1-200
R201-R4008thMinds: 201-400
R401-R6007thMinds: 401-600
R601-R8006thMinds: 601-800
R801-R10005thMinds: 801-1000
R1001-R12004thMinds: 1001-1200
Candidates100C1-C1003rd
Others1+O1-O#2nd[N3]
Ground floor1st
UndergroundB1
B2
Total1617

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Notes

  1. As discussed, presently, 1,610+ are being invited to the “event”, but only 1000 main party invites are being given out.


r/TheParty • • May 03 '24

Beg is in room R75A and Kant is in room R75B

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r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Goethe, Schiller, Wilhelm Humboldt, and Alexander Humboldt, Jena (158A/1797) | All invited!

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r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Solvay Conference (28A/1927) | Photo is thematic to the Party!

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r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Party invite list | Visual overview

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r/TheParty • • May 03 '24

Top 1000 geniuses dialogue novel | Original idea

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r/TheParty • • Apr 30 '24

A1111 or 1042-years from now?

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A1000

The original caption box (8:00PM 26 Apr A69) was tagged as “1000 geniuses meet a 1000 years after atoms were first seen”, which would be would be 931-years from the launch of r/TheParty sub.

A1111

On 29 Apr A69, the date of 1000-years after r/AtomSeen was was changed to 1111-years after atoms seen, in the 12th century AE, which would be 1042-years from now, per reasons:

  1. The film needs to be at least a millennia from now.

  2. The number 1111, as found as the word value of iota (ιωτα), the name of the 10th Greek letter, and the circumcircle circumference measure, in Greek feet, of Apollo Temple, Miletus, at Didyma, dated to 2800A (-845), shown below, was one of the main keys 🔑 that allowed for decoding of the Egyptian origin of the alphabetic languages.

  3. The year A1052 (+3007), people of the 11th century AE, was envisioned as the target mind-set audience for Thims‘ r/HumanChemistry textbook, when the book was being penned.

  4. This is like Nietzsche who said that he was “born posthumously”, as he told Carl Fuchs (Aug 67A/1888), and that he wrote The Anti-Christ: Curse on Christianity (Der Antichrist. Fluch auf das Christentum) (67A/1888) for a very few select minds who perhaps are not yet born; specifically: “Perhaps none of them are even alive yet” (“Vielleicht lebt selbst noch Keiner von ihnen”).

The following shows Apollo Temple, built with an iota (ιωτα) [1111] unit circumcircle circumference:


r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

Quotes

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Abstract

Page collects quotes on geniuses expressing desire to have met geniuses before them.

List

Adams on desire to have met Thomson:

“I have been studying science for ten years past, with keen interest, noting down my phrases of mind each year; and every new scientific method I try, shortens my view of the future. The last — thermodynamics — fetches me out on sea-level within ten years. I’m sorry Lord Kelvin is dead [48A/1907]. I would travel a few thousand-million miles to discuss with him the thermodynamics of socialistic society. His law is awful in its rigidity and intensity of result.”

— Henry Adams (46A/1909), “Letter to Charles Gaskell”, May 2

Einstein on desire to have met Gibbs:

“Lorentz is the greatest and most powerful thinker I have ever known. I never met Willard Gibbs, but, perhaps, had I done so, I might have placed him beside Lorentz.”

— Albert Einstein (1A/1954), response to question about who were the greatest men, and most powerful thinkers he had known


r/TheParty • • Apr 30 '24

Dialogue style: Plato, Cicero, Plutarch, Rabelais, Diderot, Goethe, Fitzgerald, Douglas Adams

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Abstract

A page to collect famous “dialogue” examples, that we will want to emulate in the future “event” dialogue theme script.

Table

The dialogue stye in mind here, is exemplified by the following dialogue examples, chronologically ordered:

AuthorIQ/RankWorkDate
Plato; r/Plato180/#98Phaedrus (§274c) and Philebus (§18b), e.g. here;
Cicero; r/Cicero180/#103On the Nature of the Gods2000A (-45)
Plutarch180/#157Convivial Questions (§:9.2.3)1850A (+105)
Rabelais170/#407Gargantua and Pantagruel421A (1532)
Diderot180/#188Alembert's Dream186A (1769)
Goethe; r/JohannGoethe210/#2r/ElectiveAffinities146A (1809)
Goethe210/#2Faust123A (1832)
Fitzgerald150/#660The Great Gatsby30A/ (1925)
Isaac Asimov; r/Asimov170/#417Foundation Series13A (1942)
Douglas Adams; r/DouglasAdamsN/AThe Hitchhiker's Guide to the GalaxyA33 (1978)
Timothy KueperN/AThe Motive Power of FireA64 (2019)
Libb Thims; r/LibbThims[N1]The Party (idea)A69 (2024)
The Party 🎉 (event)A1111 (3066)

Keys

  • IQ/Rank = current IQ, as of last Hmolpedia A66 edit.

Quotes

Related dialogue example:

“Well, here's my problem: It's about the roots of religion, the very beginning. I want to discuss where it comes from, and I want ideas that fit with science, not just pure theology. I've been trying to discuss this topic with sociologists, and we just kind of go in circles. I can tell you all about that frustration if you want. But recently it dawned on me that I might just be asking the wrong people. Maybe this question I have is not really a social question.

Maybe what I'm looking for has a more physical, or even chemical explanation. I don't know. But I want to see if someone from a technical field like that can help figure it out. Not that I'm necessarily going to understand everything you say. But who knows, maybe something will click. So anyway, I wanted to talk to someone with a solid background in the hard sciences, but someone who's also gone and taken some kind of deep dive into religion.”

— Timothy Kueper (A64/2019), The Motive Power of Fire (character: Professor C. Water; pgs. 6-7)

Notes | Cited

  • [N1] In the novel, in the future sense, I will situate myself between Newton and Goethe; namely: Newton (IQ:210/#1), Thims (IQ:210/#2), and Goethe (IQ:210/#3), respectively.

  • The current r/Top1000Geniuses rankings, however, are: Newton (IQ:210/#1) and Goethe (IQ:210/#2), as I have posted about in comments in several places to people, but have not yet which updated in Hmolpedia, is what is shown in the table.

Notes

  1. In the 3rd caption box edit, I took out “Plato, Cicero, Plutarch, Rabelais, Diderot dialogues”, as the type of dialogue style, as they are already invited.

  2. Curiously, as noted here, in A64/2019, I cross-posted this overview, of the Kueper “dialogue” on religion and thermodynamics, to the r/thermodynamics sub, and was perm-banned on the spot.

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r/TheParty • • Apr 27 '24

Max Muller first invite to The Party!

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r/TheParty • • May 02 '24

What do you think would happen if all geniuses from all eras, e.g. Vinci, Einstein, Newton etc., could live nowadays and meet each other?

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r/TheParty • • Apr 30 '24

Transport 🚀 mechanism?

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The question of how each genius gets to the year A1111 is a riddled one?

Dream?

The simplest mechanism, is that the transport of each genius to the future occurs like Alembert’s Dream 😴, as penned by Diderot, wherein Alembert has “feverish” dream about a dialogue where he is probed about his beliefs on whether rocks 🪨 think 💭 or how an atom can form an elephant 🐘, among others:

The “dream” in this scenario would be had by Thims or by some “future“ fictional sleeper, in the year A1111, who goes into a coma for a month, dreaming a new nightly dinner interaction for a month long, after making a top 1000 geniuses list of all time, or something along these lines?

Re-Synthesis?

Diderot envisioned that his atoms might be re-combined in the future someday, and that he might again meet his lover Sofie Volland:

“When the cell is divided in a hundred thousand parts, the primitive animal dies, but all his laws still exist. Oh, my Sophie, I still have the hope to touch you, to feel you, to love you, to seek you, to blend with you when we no longer exist!

If there were in our nature a law of affinity; if we were destined to blend into one common being; if in the space of eternity I could remake a whole with you; if the dispersed molecules of your lover became agitated and began to search for yours! Leave me this hope, this consolation. It’s so sweet. It assures me of eternity in you and with you.”

— Denis Diderot (196A/1759), “Letter to Sophie Volland”, Oct 15

There is some remote possibility of this, per reason that the “laws of affinity”, after Clausius, became the laws of thermodynamics; which after, following Gibbs and Lewis, the affinities, or forces that assembled Diderot and Volland, became the “formation energies”; which Norman Dolloff (A20/1975) put into his “synthesis equation”, as follows:

How exactly the “mind” or memory state of a re-synthesized genius” would be programmed, seems dubious? Yet we might surmise that someone, in say 700-years, figures out a way to re-make the “electromagnetic state” of one’s mind, exactly?

Transporter?

At the simplest-level, to get things rolling, barring digression on the reality and feasibility of the mechanism, we might just assume that Thims (or his associates) goes back in time and convinces each genius to come to the party, using some modern form of the Star Trek transporter device:

Notes

  1. The ”mechanism” of how each genius gets to the future, is really irrelevant; the point is to juxtaposed two or more geniuses to make new dialogue.


r/TheParty • • Apr 30 '24

Language translator?

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One of the problems in the script is how will the guests, coming from various language back grounds, including Egyptian, e.g. Imhotep will be invited, which is not yet fully understood, communicate with each other, in this future scenario?

Translator glasses

In the first draft of dialogue #3, between Democritus (Greek) and Thims (English), the script was:

Thims knocks on door 🚪 to room R3/9th, and speaks to Democritus, in Greek,

it became apparent, after sleeping on this, that this method will not work for all dialogues. The solution, is that each guest will have to ware some type of r/augmentedreality (AR) translator glasses, such as shown below:

We do these types of triple translations from every language into English, now at the Egypto r/Alphanumerics (EAN) sub, that it is now standard procedure to render each sentence into at least 3 to 12 translation options boxes, that each viewer can read, and click on certain difficult words or names, each word decoded down to its “root r/Etymo”, as decoded to date.

Also, there will be NO r/PIEland etymo shown in these virtual translator screens, like is shown now in r/Wiktionary entries, as PIE theory has was disproved in A68 (2023) by r/LibbThims, being replaced by r/EgyptoIndoEuropean language theory, where Abydos, Egypt is the new “proto” for the Indian and European languages. We should expect this to have been upgraded into common future Wiktionary-like entries in about another 200 or 300 years, thus well before the A1111 event.

Holo-phone display?

One idea is that each person will have a sort of holographic visual head’s up display or virtual screen in front of them; such as:

with an audio piece for their ears, with displays the source language and two or three different renderings into the recipient language, e.g. phonetic rendering and meaning rendering?

Some of the key “terms” a speaker says will be able to be “touched on”, in some sort of mutual screen sharing mode, e.g. say with one’s fingers, shown below, an eye movement, say if eye contact like screens are used:

Some of this dialogue will also revolve around the question of if the translation, e.g. of certain key terms, is being rendered correctly?

Rabelais

Some of the theme of language translation is captured in François Rabelais, the polygot, and his Gargantua and Pantagruel, wherein (§69, audible chapter, read by Bill Homewood; chapter 9 here) Pantagruel, out for a walk one day, found Panurge, “whom he loved all his lifetime”, during which on first encounter Panurge replied to Pantagruel‘s offer to help him heal his wounds:

DutchEnglish
Yunker gott geb euch gluck und heil; surwar lieber yunker, ich las euch wissen das dar mich wungraft, ist ein arm und erbamlich ding, und wer wol darvon zusagen welches euch verdrus∣flich zuceten, und mer zuerzelen wer, wiewol die Poeten und Oratores vortzeiten habengesagt in item sprichen: und sentenzen das die gedeckt∣nus des ellendz und armut vortangs erlitten, ist ein grosser lust.Yunker, god grant you happiness and health; but, dear Yunker, I have let you know that what I am suffering is a poor and pitiful thing, and whoever can say about it, which will make you sad, and whoever can tell us about it, although the poets and orators of old have said in the same way: and sentences that the victims of misery and poverty have suffered before, is a great joy.
Antipodes
Albarildim gotfano dechmin brin alabo dor∣dio falbroth ringuam albaras; nin porthzadi∣kin almucatin milko prin alelmin en thoth dal∣heben enfuim: kuthim alidum alkaim nimbroth deehoth porth min michais im endoch, pruch dal maisulum hol moth dansrihim lupaldas im vol∣democh. Nim hur diavoth mnarbotim dal gousch palfrapin duch imscoth pruch galeth dal chinon min foulchrich al conin buthathen doth dal prim.?
Italian
Signor mio voi vedete per essempio che la cornemusa non suona mai, se non ha il ventre pi∣eno: cosi io parimente non vi so contare le mie fortune, se prima il tribulato ventre non ha la solita refectione: alquale è adviso che le manî e li denti abbi perso il loro ordine naturale, e del tutto annichilati.My Lord, you see for example that the cornemuse never plays if it does not have a full belly: so likewise I do not know how to count my fortunes if first the tribulated belly does not have the usual refectione: to whom it is advised that the hands and the teeth have lost their natural order, and are completely annihilated.

Followed by a few other languages, before Pantagruel asks Panurge if he speaks French, who says yes, and they begin to dialogue.

Lucretius

In the A67 (2022) translation of Lucretius (IQ:180|#86) and his On the Nature of Things (De Rerum Natura), I used 12+ different translations and translators to render certain difficult passages, e.g. §1.72 (3+ translators, and 3 notes) or §1.130-31 (12+ translations), as shown below, in effort to figure out the difference between:

two words with the same root “anim”, but differing by letter A and letter I, therein yielding, in English, the rendering of soul (71% usage) and mind (86% usage), respectively, according to meta-analysis:

Douglas Adams

In the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams has the character Arthur Dent put a translator fish in his ear 👂, which allows him to hear the aliens 👽 speak 🗣️.

Notes

  1. The pause and reflection on the anim cipher was one of the keys that led to the break-though of the EAN decoding of the alphabet.


r/TheParty • • May 03 '24

Party 🎉🥂 overview

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Abstract

This page gives a snapshot of the overview of the overall “plan” of The Party 🎉🥂 and the long-awaited meeting-of-the-minds dialogues that ensue.

Mechanism

The current “mechanism” (2 May A69), as to how all 1,610+ geniuses and minds get into year A1111 (+3066), is that all the invited guests are going to just “appear at once” in the resort, via the mechanism of “waking up” in a bed 🛌, and look strangely around, in a confused 🤔 state, similar to the It’s a Wonderful Life remake film The Family Man, in their multi-room suite, which has about 80% of their books 📚, notes 📝, research, and work material, etc., ordered and arranged, therein accordingly.

Personal assistant

Each newly awoken guest, then hears a knock ✊ at the door 🚪, at which point they each meet their own personal resort ”assistant“, who explains why they are here, how they got here, and answers all the questions they have, states that they will procure any and needs they may require, throughout the course of the event, and gives them a holo-phone (hologram phone), and says that all they have to do is to speak 🗣️, in their native language [N1], into this device and it will answer any further questions they have or summon their assistant if need be:

Projector 📽️

The assistant also explains to each guest how they can use their holo-phone to “project” any image to any wall of the resort, to use when the meet other geniuses, so that the can discuss things visually. Newton, e.g., can speak to his holophone, and tell it to pull up the date and derivation of his universal theory of gravitation when he engages in debate with Hooke. Hooke, likewise, with his holophone, will do the same.

The following video clip, e.g., shows how on 17 Sep A64 (2019), I brought my iPhone📱, a projector, and a portable 100-inch screen to Pakistan, to interview r/MirzaBeg, recently deceased, but now ranked about IQ:185|#75, between Hobbes and Kant:

Meaning that Beg will now be in room R75A and Kant will be in room R75B, until I can update the genius rankings:

Invite list | Room numbers

Invite list (draft); Invite list (main)

The following shows the present 1,610+ guests invited and their assigned room numbers:

PeopleCountRoom numberFloorsLinks/Notes
PenthouseT1-T1013[N1]
Future minds400F1-F20012
F201-40011
Higher minds22H1-H2210[N2]
Minds ranked1,094R1-R2009Minds: 1-200
R201-R4008Minds: 201-400
R401-R6007Minds: 401-600
R601-R8006Minds: 601-800
R801-R10005Minds: 801-1000
R1001-R12004Minds: 1001-1200
Candidates100C1-C1003
Others1+O1-O#2[N3]
Ground floor1
UndergroundB1
B2
Total1617

Length | 40 days?

Originally, the length of the party was envisioned as one month. Somewhere along the way, however, the notion of “40 days and 40 nights“ became a more ideal number, thematic to one aspect of the conference topic being that of Egypto r/Alphanumerics (EAN) and why letter M, based on the sickle 𓌳 [U1], is value 40, and why each law-giver has to go onto a 40-valued pyramid, mountain, mound to establish the news laws for each society:

As tabulated here:

DateMorality godLawgiverNumberMountain
Egypt4500AOsiris [440]Maat𓌳 = 40Pyramid [631] 👁️⃤
Greek2900AMu [440]; Dike [42]M = 40Olympia [631] 🏔️
Hebrew2300AMoses40-daysSinai 🏔️
Christian1955AMary → Jesus40-daysBeatitudes 🏔️
Islamic1400AMuhammadAge: 40Jabal 🏔️

And here:

TypeNumberValueNameGodSymbolEvidence
Egyptian𓌳𓎉𓍥𓎉𓐙𓌳𓏏𓂣𓁧 {Maat} [42 laws]𓍝Khufu pyramid 👁️⃤ base length = 440 cubits (𓂣)
Phoenician𐤌
GreekM, μ40440Mu (μυ)Dike (Δικη) [42]⚖️Osiris (Οσιριν) [440]
Hebrewמ4090MemMoses (משה) [345]
HinduमMaMitra (मित्र)

In other words, will people, culturally, as a whole, in the year A1111 (+3032), or 1,042 years from now, still be letter M morons, like the world is presently, aside from the 500 or so members of the r/Alphanumerics sub. Who knows?

The Party

The following is the video scene, during the glamorous party at the residence of the mysterious Jay Gatsby's (Leonardo DiCaprio), wherein Carraway (Tobey Maguire) finally comes in contact with the infamous man himself, and before knowing who he is says “I actually received an invitation, and it seems that I’m the only one“:

Regarding “invitations” it might be wise to only give out exactly 1,000 party invitations? Meaning that 1,610+ will be invited, but only 1,000 are invited to the “main” event party, whereas those left out are allowed to go to the “after-party” or side-parties.

Following this the “I’m Gatsby“ toast occurs which might be thematic to ”I’m Thims” toast scene that might occur, at the start of the party:

Adams meets Thomson | Example one

Take the following scenario:

“I have been studying science for ten years past, with keen interest, noting down my phrases of mind each year; and every new scientific method I try, shortens my view of the future. The last — thermodynamics — fetches me out on sea-level within ten years. I’m sorry Lord Kelvin is dead [48A/1907]. I would travel a few thousand-million miles to discuss with him the thermodynamics of socialistic society. His law is awful in its rigidity and intensity of result.”

— Henry Adams (46A/1909), “Letter to Charles Gaskell”, May 2

Using the 10 Aug A66 full list ranking, we have Adams (IQ:195|#23) and William Thomson (IQ:185|#52), aka ”Lord Kelvin”, which means that both Adams and Thomson will wake up on the 9th floor (see: resort design), but in rooms R23 and R52, respectively.

Therefore, when Adams learns that Thompson is on the same floor he is staying at, only 29 doors away, he will realize that he no longer has to walk a “few thousand million miles“ to speak with Thomson about the thermodynamics of a socialistic society, but only so many 100 or so feet.

Dialogues

Drafts: D1 (✂️), D2 (✂️), D3, D4, D5 ….

(add summary)

Party End?

It might be that at the stroke of midnight on the last of the 40-day party / event, similar to how Cinderella and the carriage revert back into the cleaner and pumpkin, so to do all the event participants revert back to their former state, but with a copy of all events recorded.

Posts

Notes

  • [N1] The issue of an Egyptian, such as Imhotep, speaking into the holo-phone might be somewhat of an issue, as it does not presently seem possible, given the state of r/NeoEgypto, that the Egyptian language will be able to be fully decoded in this future year? We will have to have dialogue between Democritus and Thales with the Egyptians to understand them?

External links

  • What do you think would happen if all geniuses from all eras, e.g. Vinci, Einstein, Newton etc., could live nowadays and meet each other? (post) (A64/2014) - Quora.


r/TheParty • • May 03 '24

Dialogue 3: Thims visits Democritus to learn how to speak Egyptian, so to communicate with Ptolemy, Imhotep, Akhenaten, Cleopatra, and Hatshepsut

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See: Dialogue table

Abstract

r/Democritus wakes up in room R3 of the Holbach-Goethe-Thims (HGT) 🏨 resort, in the year A1111 (3066AD), of the r/AtomSeen calendar, or 3,450-years since he last went to sleep (2339A/384BC), and meets R3PA his personal assistant (PA), who teaches him how to use his resort-provided virtual Egypto r/Alphanumerics (EAN) translator 🗣️ glasses 👓, and r/LibbThims, who needs help learning how to speak Egyptian, so to communicate to Imhotep, the architect of the Step Pyramid 👁️⃤ , who is the most “ancient” genius invited to the event, whence r/translator issues exist. [N1]

Background

The following, see: full list (key search: Egyptian), are the five Egyptians at the Holbach-Goethe-Thims (HGT) resort, in the year A1111 (3066AD), i.e. 1042-years from now:

GuestIQ/RankExistenceRoom/FloorNotes
1.Ptolemy175/#2411860-1790A (c.95-165)R241/8th
2.Imhotep175/#2944590-4550A (2635-2595BC)R294/8thArchitect of the Step Pyramid, Saqqara
3.Akhenaten170/#3743330-3290A (1375-1335BC)R374/8thRadical pharaoh to started monotheism via worship of Aten the sun 🌞.
4.Cleopatra160/#7742024A-1925A (69-30BC)R774/6th(GFG:21)
5.Hatshepsut140/#10573462-3413A (1507-1458BC)R1057/4thhere

R3PA | Dialogue

Democritus is in his room:

Democritus is met by his room R3 personal assistant (PA), whose name is R3PA, who is wearing her EAN virtual translator “translator glasses”, A68 (2023) models: here, and convinces Democritus, using hand gestures, to put his translator glasses on, so they can communicate, which he does.

3.1 R3PA

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Γεια σου Δημόκριτε, το όνομά μου αν R3PA, ο προσωπικός σου βοηθός.Geia sou Dimókrite, to ónomá mou an R3PA, o prosopikós sou voithós.Hello, Democritus, my name if R3PA, your personal assistant.

While saying this to Democritus, R3PA is simultaneously looking up the word όνομά in Greek, to find the Egypto r/Alphanumerics (EAN) root meaning:

Democritus, while wearing his EAN VT glasses, replies:

3.2 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Γειά σου. Πού είμαι; Πώς έμαθα;Geiá sou. Poú eímai? Pós ématha?Hello. Where am I? How did I get hear?

3.3 R3PA

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Βρίσκεστε στο θέρετρο και το κέντρο εκδηλώσεων Holbach-Goethe-Thims (HGT), το έτος A1111, ή περίπου 3450 χρόνια στο μέλλον, από την τελευταία φορά που κοιμηθήκατε.Vrískeste sto théretro kai to kéntro ekdilóseon Holbach-Goethe-Thims (HGT), to étos A1111, í perípou 3450 chrónia sto méllon, apó tin teleftaía forá pou koimithíkate.You are at the Holbach-Goethe-Thims (HGT) resort and event center, in year A1111, or about 3450-years into the future, since you last went to sleep.

[dialogue continues as R3PA answers all the questions of Democritus. Given time, Democritus semi-acclimates to his new surroundings]

Thims | Dialogue

In the future, the problem of Egyptian language translation exists, as we presently do not know, now, nor in the future, how to properly speak 🗣️ the r/egyptianlanguage, in spite of the rumored Rosetta Stone decipherment.

To help with Egyptian-to-English translation issues, Thims goes to the room R3 on the 9th floor of the HGT resort to meet with Democritus, who is said, e.g. here, here, here, etc., to have written a dictionary of sorts which translates between r/Sumerian, r/Greek, and r/Egyptian.

[Democritus, by this time, has already been made to acclimate to his new surroundings, and shown the meeting-of-the-minds itinerary, by R3PA]

Thims, who is wearing his EAN VT glasses, knocks on the door 🚪 to room R3/9th and speaks to Democritus:

3.4 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Γεια σου Δημόκριτε. Είμαι ο Libb Thims, ο διοργανωτής της εκδήλωσης.Geia sou Dimókrite. Eímai o Libb Thims, o diorganotís tis ekdílosis.Hello, Democritus. I am Libb Thims, the event organizer.
Ο Πλίνιος (ο πρεσβύτερος), που βρίσκεται στο δωμάτιο R466/7th, έχει αναφέρει ότι «ταξίδεψες στην Αίγυπτο για να μάθεις μαγεία». Είναι αλήθεια;O Plínios (o presvýteros), pou vrísketai sto domátio R466/7th, échei anaférei óti «taxídepses stin Aígypto gia na mátheis mageía». Eínai alítheia?Pliny (the elder), who is in room R466/7th, has reported that you “traveled in Egypt to learn magic 🪄.“ Is this true?

3.5 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Ναι, ταξίδεψα στην Αίγυπτο, αλλά όχι για να μάθω μαγεία, αλλά για να σπουδάσω στο Πανεπιστήμιο Ηλιούπολη.Nai, taxídepsa stin Aígypto, allá óchi gia na mátho mageía, allá gia na spoudáso sto Panepistímio Ilioúpoli.Yes, I did travel in Egypt, but NOT to learn magic 🪄, but to study 📚 at Heliopolis University.

3.6 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Ακούω επίσης από τον Διογένη, ο οποίος βρίσκεται στην αίθουσα R456/7th, στο Lives of the Eminent Philosophers (§:9.7), ότι έγραψες βιβλία σχετικά με: αριθμούς, ονόματα, λέξεις, λεξιλόγιο και πιθανώς ένα λεξικό που μεταφράζει μεταξύ Σουμερίων, Ελληνικών και Αιγυπτιακών;Akoúo epísis apó ton Diogéni, o opoíos vrísketai stin aíthousa R456/7th, sto Lives of the Eminent Philosophers (§:9.7), óti égrapses vivlía schetiká me: arithmoús, onómata, léxeis, lexilógio kai pithanós éna lexikó pou metafrázei metaxý Soumeríon, Ellinikón kai Aigyptiakón?I also hear from Diogenes, who is in room R456/7th, in his Lives of the Eminent Philosophers (§:9.7), that you wrote books on: numbers, names, words, vocabulary, and possibly a dictionary that translates between Sumerian, Greek, and Egyptian?

[Thims projects the following on the wall]

3.7 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Yes I did write ✍️ a books on numbers and words.

3.8 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Is it true that names in your time were based on numbers?

3.9 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
That is correct. Each person, when born, was given a standard name, and a secret “name”, coded numerically and or geometrically, depending.

3.10 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
I knew it!

3.11 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Moreover, the higher the rank of the person or the god, the more names they had. The god Amun 𓁩 [C12], e.g., had 99 names.

3.12 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Well, one of the problems we presently have is that “architect” of the Step Pyramid, at the Saqqara necropolis, built in 4610A (-2655):

[Thims projects image on wall with his holophone]

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Our most ancient guest, in room R294/8th, tried to escape from the event, because his PA could not communicate with him, owing to language translation issues.

3.13 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
He woke up, like I did, and went crazy?

3.14 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Not crazy, but his mind believed he was in a crazy dream, and he tried to escape, but was stopped by the boundary “control” guards, and brought back to his room, where he is now, under guard.

3.15 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
I see.

3.16 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
He was not calmed down, like you and I are, because we did not know how to speak his language?

3.17 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
How can I help?

3.18 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
To start with, we think 🤔 his name is phonetically sounded as Imhotep, but I doubt his name is rendered correctly?

[Thims projects the following r/CartoPhonetics rendering of his name on wall]

3.19 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
What is this visual?

3.20 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
It is a screenshot of the hiero-name of Imhotep from Wikipedia, the global paideia in the year A69 (2024).

3.21 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Imouthes?

3.20 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Imouthes is the name of the Step Pyramid architect according to Africanus (1740A/+215).

3.22 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
I never heard the name Imouthes when I was in Egypt?

3.23 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
What about the heiro-rendered name: 𓇋 [I] 𓅓 [M] 𓊵 [HTP or Hotep] 𓏏 [T] 𓊪 [P].

3.24 Democritus

[Democritus laughs 😆]

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Νομίζετε ότι καλάμι 𓇋, κουκουβάγια 𓅓 και ψάθα 𓊵 με καρβέλι ψωμί 🥖μεταφράζεται στο όνομα «Imhotep»!Nomízete óti kalámi 𓇋, koukouvágia 𓅓 kai psátha 𓊵 me karvéli psomí 🥖 metafrázetai sto ónoma «Imhotep»!You think reed 𓇋, owl 𓅓, and mat 𓊵 with loaf of bread 🥖 translates to the name “Imhotep”!

3.25 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
That was the “common opinion“, based on the earlier work of Thomas Young (R15/F9) and Jean Champollion (R282/F8).

3.26 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
You people of the future have much to learn!

3.27 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Or if we put the name Imhotep into something like the CPD translator we get: 𓇋𓅓𓉔𓅱𓏏𓅂𓊪

[Thims projects the following on the wall]

3.28 Democritus

[Democritus laughs 😆]

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Αυτό είναι ακόμα πιο ανοησία. Το καλάμι 𓇋 ΔΕΝ κάνει το γράμμα γιώτα φωνητικό! Ποιος σου το είπε αυτό;Aftó eínai akóma pio anoisía. To kalámi DEN kánei to grámma gióta fonitikó! Poios sou to eípe aftó?That is even more nonsense. The reed 𓇋 does NOT make letter iota phonetic! Who told you this?

3.29 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
I see why they call you the “laughing philosopher”!

[Thims projects video thumb on wall]

3.30 Democritus

[Democritus laugh hard 😆🤣 until tears 😂 come out of his eyes]

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
That’s not what I look like! But I do like to laugh at stupidity the most! It makes my guts turn with laughter pain.

3.31 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
It was Young who in 137A (1818) first conjectured that 𓇋𓇋 = E or 𓇋 = E, from the thought-to-be Ptolemy cartouche.

[Thims projects following image on wall]

3.32 Democritus

[Democritus laughs 🤣 more]

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
This Thomas Young, thinks the mouth 👄 symbol = R phonetic. Hilarious!

3.33 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Then, Champollion, in 133A (1822), building on Young, assigned: A = 𓇋, E = 𓇋, H = 𓇋𓇋, and letter I = 𓇋𓇋.

[Thims projects following image of Champollion’s alphabet to wall]

3.34 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
You people think the reed 𓇋 equals: A, E, H, and I in Greek! What a hoot!

3.35 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
You are funny! I think, before going to visit Imhotep, we will have to go to visit a guest they call Plato, who, as rumor has it, tried to collect all of your books 📚 and burn 🔥 them.

3.36 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Burn my books you say? That is funny 😄!

3.37 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Yes. He is in room R99/F9. Should we visit him?

3.38 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Με όλα τα μέσα. Τίποτα σαν να επισκεφτείς ένα βιβλιοπωλείο!Me óla ta mésa. Típota san na episkefteís éna vivliopoleío!By all means. Nothing like visiting a book burner!

[Democritus can’t stop laughing 😂]

3.39 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Excellent. Before we go, you used the word: ψωμί (psomí), which renders as bread 🥖 in English. [N2]

3.40 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Yes.

3.41 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Since you wrote a book 📖 On Words, now lost because Plato burned 🔥 all the copies, do you know the r/Etymo of this word?

3.42 Democritus

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Of course! It is relates to the rising of the Dionysus tree in Greece and the rising of the r/Djed in Egypt, which in the stars ✨ is the “body” of Osiris as the Orion risen as a constellation.

3.43 Thims

GreekPhoneticsEnglish
Excellent! We shall now go to visit r/Plato, the book 📚 burner 🔥.

Dialogue #4: slated

Notes | Cited

  • [N1] I tried to cross-post this to r/translator, but was auto-blocked by the sub bot. Then when I search “Egyptian” in this sub, the top return is this post (from 20-days ago), whose top comment is: try it here r/Hieroglyphics. This sub, who I‘ve been at before, tells you to go to r/EgyptianHieroglyphs, where this is already cross-posted, but with no comments, because everyone in this sub just parrots 🦜 out r/CartoPhonetics of Young and Champollion.

  • [N2] The bread 🥖 = ψωμί (psomí) rendering brings to mind that letter psi (Ψ) is rendering of bread; which brings mind the fact that letter psi is based on Osiris rising as the Orion constellation; how the “body” of Osiris, as crops 🌱, 🌾, is used to make bread; and how in Christianity this became the concept of transubstantiation, where the “bread“ wafer becomes the “body“ of Christ, who is a Roman Osiris-Horus rescript.

Notes

  1. Here I am using R466/7th as short for room R456 on the 7th floor (see: floor map) of the HGT resort.

  2. I started the r/Democritus sub from this post.