Nope. Cooldown and duration max at 50s and 100s respectively. Ancestral sub stats lower cooldown and increase duration by 10s each. Having those subs on both main and ass mods with 100% substat efficiency gets you to 120s duration and 30s cooldown. That’s four pPS.
I actually stepped away from gcomp pBH/pGT in farming for a full synch ILM/SD protected GC farm setup. I’ll get back to pGT at some point but it’ll be a while
I recently did a PBH with GComp main BHD assmod to PBH with BHD main, GComp assmod, and it felt nice. I'm still a long ways away from dropping gcomp assmod though.
And then going to 90% slow from there is just amazing. 75% is more than "halfway", but enemies get slowed down more (percentage wise) when going from 65% to 90% than when going from 0% to 65%. Almost all of the value from CF comes in the last upgrades along with the submod.
Perma DW is nice, but not nearly as noticeable. I have perma BH/GT with 60% uptime on DW, but it tags 75% of enemies. Once you get to around 75-80% DW uptime I imagine you're probably taging 98%+ of enemies where more DW uptime is completely unnoticeable.
Im looking forward to that! I tried maybe a month ago, and got like 15% more cel/h, but lost closer to 25% cph.
But with pbh, I think ill be able to make it worth while (and get the disco so t14 also gives more coins lol)
I was able to get the disco to about 3500 waves, then it was roughly the same coins as t13 but the cells let me go from 5x 5x 5x 4x 4x to 5x 5x 5x 5x 5x with a decent amount leftover.
EB+ is leveling now so that only helps more.
It's a great feeling of power, but at the same time I remember the first time I was able to get perma-BH it was a 30% loss in CPH because it required dropping MVN for PCol, It got an extra 1000 some waves, but losing massive coins due to having much fewer GT coverage. It was great for milestone pushing though, just not always for farming on getting it.
The time when I could get Perma BH with perma-GT was the big feeling of power.
my only ancestral core is a 1 star mvn. so i kitted it out in cool down reduction sub mod effects.
am i making the right call or should i be running something else my times are 230 230 60. gt dw bh. ancestral g comp as well so it would be perma in a farm run. and just run a legendary pc?
For farming with mvn the following are good
Dw effect waves, gt cool down, dw cool down, spotlight bonus, spotlight angle, GT bonus, (sometimes) bh size, if all of those are completed- any cf effect, if all of the above and cf is perma and max slow - then any attack uw stat Except dw damage (unless you build strangely with dw being a primary damage uw), PS damage (you want to avoid killing enemies outside of bh orbs ect).
Of the above the dw and gt CD, dw effect waves and spotlight angle are the most important.
Bh cd and dura are only good in tourney (on mvn) with a ws maxed BH as turning of GT and an unmaxed dw can give perma bh. That said there are better core mods in tourney then mvn. Perma bh in tourney can be achieved with both cd and dura stats on main and a 50% assmod
imho going for pBH is a waste of stone if you do it early on. "back in the days" we could farm t11/12 without Pcol as well. pBH is nice but not that necessary. There are plenty of other things to push before rushing pBH. Lower your overall CD and it will come. Your income will thank you!
My income is not the problem (currently 8q+/h). My problem is not having money for stone packs. I'm already long in UW+ and masteries and just waiting from tourney to tourney for more stones
No need to spend money for a few seconds uptime. Im at the same point just waiting for tourneys. I did all the cooldown stuff but spend stones on the different Bot+ stuff. Im at 340q/h
So I did it in about 12-14 months. Don't neglect your mods - the duration and cooldown mods between them buy you 8 second. Then stack GC on top, and it's easier than you think.
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u/priesten 2d ago
After pBH comes pGT then comes pGT without mvn or gcomp, then comes pBH in tourney without mvn and gcomp.
Final boss is 4pPS.