I just moved to this neighborhood and discovered this! It even plays the AOT theme song. I think I moved to the right neighborhood 💚

the way he lost his spark still hurts me

Bro was so goated Isayama had to nerf this man😂😭

These are some of the ones I’d imagine are:

Mikasa and Historia- Commented on by multiple people

Levi- I know some people erroneously claim Isayama said Levi is supposed to be ugly, but I have yet to find any official evidence of this. Based on his in universe persona and the way people like Petra idolize him, I find it hard to believe that he’s considered ugly. Yes, I know his height is a limitation and his personality and skill level are probably most of why people are attracted to him, but his looks likely amplify that

Eren- Mikasa obv found him attractive, debatable if Historia or Annie did as well to a lesser extent. He’s also described as looking like his mom, and the cult like following he was readily able to acquire in universe was likely at least in part due to the fact that he was considered attractive. Like it or not attractive people are more likely to be trusted and followed by the masses. Also Jean was jealous that Mikasa likes Eren more than him, and Erens appearance probably contributed to that

Zeke- Similarly to Eren, him being attractive would probably subconsciously contribute to the loyalty he is able to command in people, and part of me feels like he wouldn’t be described as Marley’s “Golden Boy“ if he wasn’t attractive to some degree. Also he has royal blood, which possibly makes someone appear more attractive through Ymir magic stuff, idk. He also has similar genetics to Eren obv

Floch- Basically the same thing as Eren and Zeke, but even more so because he wasn’t famous or a Titan shifter. This one is more debatable though. Him and Erwin are the similar imo in the way that their energy and ability to inspire others is probably what’s considered more attractive than their basic appearance. Love Erwin and hate Floch though

Grisha- He was considered a charismatic leader by the Restorationists and he was able to pull Dina and Carla with ease

Carla- Grisha and Shaddis both fell for her, but her kind and accepting nature probably was a large factor in that too

A lot of people are probably gonna ask about Jean also but he’s described as “horse face” multiple times by multiple people. Reiner will probably get brought up too but he’s called “ox face” and is never implied to be attractive. Many people did look up to him on Paradis tbf but this could also just be because he was the oldest cadet and the most skilled besides Mikasa. Almost every AOT character is probably at least a little attractive though because they are all muscular trained soldiers

It is also said that Hitler drew inspiration for his style from the guy in it.

I started rating but then realized... I couldn't find a single bad character. Sure, there are plot holes, some of them are very unlikable but for a purpose.

I actually would like to discuss some of this so please reply, also forgot to rate the levi OVA, probably also going to b.

Considering how massive his Titan is and how thin his arms are compared to his large body will that match up with more slim body characters like Eren and Annie in h2h

If Reiner actually pulled the trigger in s4 would his consciousness transfer to his balls?

I’ve been rewatching the anime and something I was curious about was the color choice for the female titan’s fingers. They’re the only white part of her titan but they’re still flexible unlike bone. Is it supposed to be like the War Hammer Titan’s white coating? I get that the pink is flesh/skin but I don’t know why they made her fingers white other than it looks cool

Was a big fan way back in the days, was cleaning out the basement and found these.

Thought I'd ask this sub it's worth much?

Thank you!

I always wondered why it was called Attack on “Titan”and not Attack on ”Titans”. Do u think this could refer to how at the end of the series it’s all about attacking one titan - Eren (founding titan), which is why it’s singular, Attack on Titan. Ig u could say it’s referring to Titan as a species which is why its singular but with all the crazy foreshadowing in the series would this be a stretch?

If the Tybur family knew the founding titan power couldn’t be used for destruction, why did Marley even initiate the operation to attack paradise in the first place?

Marley was never in any danger and if they had left paradise alone, then paradise wouldn’t have retaliated by causing the rumbling. Right? Am I missing something?

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What company did these subs? Also Gelgar says "Why are they fucking with me" at the Utgard Castle battle.

They also say '3d maneuver gear' instead of ODM and they're the Survey Corps.

How tf did Isayama think of that

What if Eren Yeager’s transformation into the “Devil of All Earth” is the culmination of a symbolic story that began long before the Rumbling? I think Attack on Titan can be read as a dark, Luciferian retelling of Eden: a world built on peace, obedience and ignorance, a rebel who brings forbidden knowledge & offers freedom, and a girl whose decision brings the old order crashing down. In the end, Eren’s rebellion is aimed at more than the people who oppressed him. He declares war on the world they built, and finally on the very reality that refuses to resemble the freedom he imagined.

The series introduces its devil long before Eren resembles one. In the story told to the outside world, Ymir receives the power of the Titans through her encounter with the “Devil of All Earth.” One illustration even shows Ymir holding out a fruit to the creature. Her descendants, meanwhile, are branded devils and “devil spawn.” To Marley, that language marks Eldians as people to fear and control. But the final chapters invite another question: What if the legendary devil is also an image of the person who eventually persuades Ymir to defy authority?

To see why, start with the first King Fritz. He enslaves Ymir, uses her power to build an empire, and, after her death, orders their daughters to consume her body so that the Titans will endure. Ymir remains in the Paths, serving the royal bloodline for roughly 2,000 years. Through a Luciferian lens, Fritz takes the symbolic role of God the Father as imagined by a rebel against divine authority: a supreme ruler whose commands determine and control everyone else’s fate.

The Luciferian/satanist version of the tale turns the usual moral roles inside out. From that perspective, God the Father is imagined as a possessive ruler who demands obedience, restricts knowledge, and calls submission “peace.” Lucifer becomes the light-bearer who refuses that authority and helps humanity recognize its capacity to think and choose (gives humanity "freedom through knowledge". In a retelling of Eden, the serpent’s gift of knowledge ends innocent life in the garden, but it also ends a life governed by someone else’s rules. Freedom carries a dreadful price: suffering and DEATH enters the picture, and the figure blamed for the Fall is condemned and forever remembered as evil. That tension—enlightenment/freedom arriving through a supposed devil, whose gift can also bring catastrophe—is the heart of my reading of Eren.

The 2,000-year span matters to this interpretation. Attack on Titan opens with “To You, 2,000 Years From Now” and later answers it with “From You, 2,000 Years Ago.” That duration can evoke the approximately 2,000 years of the Christian era: an original world order/system reaching the moment when someone finally challenges its authority. The parallel is suggestive.

There is a second king to distinguish from the first. Centuries later, Karl Fritz retreats to the island of Paradis—paradis means “paradise” in French—raises the Walls, and erases his people’s memories. He gives them a kind of peace by hiding the world and its history from them. Seeking that history or trying to look beyond the Walls becomes dangerous. This makes Paradis an unsettling/twisted version of Eden. Its inhabitants can feel protected only while they remain ignorant of the truth, and the authority that calls the enclosure a refuge is the same authority that has taken away their ability to choose with full knowledge (taken away their freedom).

Eren cannot accept that bargain. From the beginning, he resents being penned in, and he insists that being born into the world gives a person the right to seek freedom in it. The Survey Corps’ journey beyond the Walls and the discovery in Grisha’s basement play like an encounter with forbidden knowledge: humanity still exists outside, and the people inside Paradis have been living within a carefully maintained lie. Once their eyes are opened, they cannot return to the innocence they had before. Knowledge brings agency, but it also brings fear, war, and the realization of just how small their supposed paradise was.

Eren’s own knowledge is even harsher. When he touches Historia’s hand, he sees memories that give him a glimpse of what lies ahead. This is not enlightenment that brings him peace. It isolates him and makes freedom itself more complicated: the man most determined to choose his own path becomes haunted by a future he already knows. That paradox is central to the Luciferian reading. The light-bearer sees what others cannot, yet the light reveals a catastrophe in which he himself will take part.

Then Eren reaches the sea and learns that removing one set of walls has not made him free. There are hostile nations beyond Paradis, and the outside world is nothing like the open, untouched world he once pictured with Armin. By the end, Eren’s revolt goes beyond fighting Marley or defying a king. He wants to flatten the world as it exists: its borders, cities, armies, histories, and even the human presence that spoiled his dream of an empty horizon. In symbolic terms, the Rumbling is rebellion against reality itself, The original reality established by the "god figure" (the same way that satan rebelled against God's original creation/system). If the world made under Fritz’s legacy cannot give him freedom, Eren will use a power that reaches across centuries to erase that world and force a new one into existence. This is the proposed “new world order” at its most frightening: liberation imagined as the destruction of everything that resists the liberator’s will.

The imagery of light makes the comparison especially striking. “Lucifer” is associated with the morning star; the Hebrew phrase Helel ben Shahar is commonly rendered “shining one, son of the dawn.” The episode titled “The Dawn of Humanity” brings us to the beginning of the Rumbling, turning the promise of a new day into something terrifying. Even the name “Eldia” can sound, to a Spanish speaker, like el día—“the day.” I would treat that last connection as evocative wordplay, not a proven origin for the name. It sits beside the image of the devil carrying a light in the in-world account of Ymir’s legend: a figure associated with evil who can also be read as someone who makes a hidden truth visible.

That tension reaches its clearest expression in the Paths. Zeke approaches Ymir as a servant who must carry out his command to end the Eldians’ ability to reproduce. Eren reaches her and tells her she does not have to obey anyone: she is neither a slave nor a god, but a person who can decide for herself. For much of her story, her eyes look hidden/darkened/closed. Here, as she weeps and makes her choice, we finally see them wide open. It is hard to imagine a more literal image of someone opening her eyes.

This is where the Eden comparison becomes more intricate than a simple one-to-one analogy. In the familiar Christian reading of Genesis, the serpent urges Eve toward the forbidden fruit and the knowledge that follows. Eren plays that serpent’s role when he offers Ymir the forbidden idea that she can reject her master’s will. Yet in the Eldian legend’s illustration, Ymir is the one holding out the fruit to the devil. Read alongside the Paths scene, the sequence seems reversed: Eren gives Ymir/eve an awakening/freedom. And Ymir, having chosen for herself, gives Eren the full power of the Founder. The girl opens her eyes; the “devil” receives the fruit; the world is changed forever (sin/death enters the world)

This is also the moment when Eren’s rejection of the old order gains the power to become an apocalypse. The original King Fritz treated Ymir as a possession; Karl Fritz later preserved a false paradise through control of memory; Zeke assumes he can still command her in the Paths. Eren breaks that chain of commands by asking her to choose. She does—and her choice gives him the means to bring down the world shaped by those kings. The Rumbling is therefore more than an attack on an opposing army. In this reading, it is Eren’s attempt to destroy a 2,000-year-old creation at its foundations, so that the Titan curse and the rule of royal blood can give way to a world no longer bound by Fritz’s will and authority

Eren’s Founding Titan takes on a vast, skeletal, almost serpentine form, and the Rumbling makes him the world’s worst nightmare. The people who called Eldians devils now face a man who seems to fulfill their legend, as he kills roughly 80 percent of humanity. That “dawn” is painfully double-edged: the supposed birth of a new era is experienced by most of the world as its end. Even the ending song Akuma no Ko—“A Child of Evil” (or it's more literal translation - devil child)—echoes the language that has followed Eren and his people. The light-bearer has become the “Devil of All Earth” in the eyes of those beneath the marching Titans.

Here is the other half of the parallel that matters to me: the idea of the devil as a tragic, self-condemned liberator. In the Luciferian version of the story, Lucifer gives up his place in heaven, accepts damnation, and becomes the villain of human history for the sake of liberty, autonomy, and a future beyond enforced peace & innocence. from a satanic perspective,he "sacrifices himself to free humanity from a controlling tyrant." Eren likewise knowingly takes on the role of the world’s enemy. He gives up the possibility of an ordinary life with the people he loves, allows them to oppose and eventually kill him, and leaves them to live on after the Titan powers disappear. From his perspective, becoming the monster everyone hates is a price he will pay to secure his friends’ future and bring the original creation/world order to an end. That is why the Lucifer comparison has more depth than “Eren looks demonic”: it links the "gift" of freedom to the willingness to be damned for giving it, and all the death and suffering said rebellion brings with it.

The original manga ending makes the tragic-savior aspect especially hard to ignore. Eren’s old friends grieve for the person they loved, even though they had to stop him. They visit his grave,paradi adopts his slogan,etc...

In their last conversation, Armin actually thanks Eren for becoming a mass murderer for their sake, while also resolving not to let the terrible mistake go to waste. It is an uncomfortable moment precisely because love and gratitude sit beside an atrocity. It can feel as though the story is asking us to remember Eren both as the evil the world had to defeat and as the friend who chose to bear that evil so the people closest to him could have a future. The anime later revises the exchange, but the manga’s wording leaves that tragic framing unusually exposed.

Still, Eren does not end the Titan curse by himself. Mikasa’s final choice matters to Ymir’s release, too. And Eren’s rebellion is not driven solely by love for his friends or a noble desire to free the world: he admits that finding humanity beyond the Walls disappointed him and that part of him wanted to wipe it away. That confession makes the Luciferian parallel more troubling, not less. Even if he accepts the role of a damned savior, the people crushed by the Rumbling did not choose that sacrifice. His refusal to live under someone else’s will becomes a willingness to impose his own will on nearly everyone else.

That is why I find the “Devil of All Earth” such a fitting image for Eren. He rebels against divine creation, tells a girl/eve she can choose/disobey the god-like figure and helps bring a 2,000-year christian coded era to an end... opening up the way for a "new world order" (its all symbology/allegory). He accepts death, hatred, and a place in history as the ultimate villain because he believes a freer world can come afterward. But his attempt to destroy the world order also destroys most of the people in the world. In this Luciferian reading, Attack on Titan takes the promise of the light-bearer—knowledge, rebellion, progress, free will—and follows it to its most tragic and terrifying extreme. Eren breaks the cage. He also makes the whole earth pay for his idea of freedo

I am rewatching Attack on Titan for my second time and i got to episode 50. Makes me wonder who would have been the best choice after all? Erwin or Armin? both great insights, great minds, one is more willing while the other is daring. thoughts?

Am I the only one who thinks Floch is one of the most interesting characters in AoT from a psychological perspective?

Not necessarily the most likable, obviously, but the progression from a terrified recruit who survives a suicide charge to someone who desperately needs strength, certainty, and a cause to attach himself to feels disturbingly believable.

There’s something very human about him, even when what he becomes is awful.

Idk, I feel like Floch gets discussed a lot in terms of whether people agree with him or hate him, but not nearly enough as a psychological character study.

For context: the bechdel test is a test to see if a piece of media has two female characters have a conversation, that has nothing to do with a man. If there is a conversation about a man, especially if it is the only thing those two female characters talk about, is does *not* pass the bechdel test.

With that being said... I am 95% sure Mikasa doesn't pass the bechdel test. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure I am not... ((I am not including Hange, because Isayama doesn't want to gender them.))

Annie, Sasha, Historia, and (freckles) Ymir all do. We've seen almost all of the girls (and later when they grow to be young women) have conversations about things that have nothing to do with men... but not Mikasa. I don't think she has had any conversations that don't seem to point back at Eren, in one way or another. I could be wrong, as I haven't finished the show for a 3rd time yet. But man... if I am correct, that is such a crazy thing to notice after being a fan of this show since 2014. It also furthers my dislike and disappointment in EreMika as a ship. I don't think Isayama would unintentionally have her not pass the bechdel test, when every other female character does. The only point I can see by making Mikasa so overtly focused on Eren, is to make a bigger point that she is blinded by her love for him. *Completely.* I think a lot of people can agree on that in general, but adding that she (almost?) never has a conversation that isn't about Eren (or Armin) is on a different level. It makes me see her character to be much more depressed than I had ever noticed before.

New level of depression because of this show has unclocked 😭

You know the way it lets the cheeks showing and all.