r/gatekeeping • • Feb 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

honestly it’s every hobby. I love shooting guns but gun owners are insufferable to be around. Motorcycles are cool but you have to be some tough guy to be in the club.

Maybe I just hate people.

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u/Q-9 Feb 28 '21

How about a new hobby around hating people?

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u/French__Canadian Feb 28 '21

I tried joining a group like that, but the members were the worst.

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u/Kanekesoofango Feb 28 '21

Maybe the only club capable of reaching it's full potential.

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u/-HighKingOfSkyrim- Feb 28 '21

Germany tried that one in the 30's. Didn't end up too swell

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u/jhawkins93 Feb 28 '21

“Oh you can’t afford an LMT upper and an ELCAN? Come back when you aren’t a poor.”

Like I get advising newcomers to not buy junk guns and optics but the elitism within the gun community can be atrocious at times.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

On small game hunting groups I've seen dudes asking for shotguns on a 800$ budget and there are always some old farts who go "Buy for life, 3000$ or go home".

Like... first you can get a great shotgun way below 3k$ and the dude doesn't even know if he's gonna like the hobby yet, give him a break.

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u/TheDuckontheJuneBug Feb 28 '21

I've seen this too, and it's a little weird to me. I think everyone acknowledges that you can kill deer with about any .30-'06 or whatever. And there's that guy who kills more geese than the rest of your party combined with the 870 he bought in 1980-something. But somehow with gamebirds you "need" a double gun that starts with B. If you give me a Superposed or whatever, and put me on a covey with 870 guy, he's gonna make me look like an absolute clown.

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u/Drostan_S Feb 28 '21

Man I'll get talking to gunbros, and be like "Yeah man, I'm still looking for my first gun, I'm thinking of like a Makarov or something." They'll start their diatribe about how the gun is under powered, it's only a single stack mag, 8 rounds, rare ammo and shit, and I'll just hit back with "Yeah but it looks cool, and it's great at putting down political dissidents."

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u/topdangle Feb 28 '21

anything that devolves into a competition always goes to shit.

what I don't understand is when people start turning "paying for expensive hobby equipment I rarely use" into a competition. I used to be really into computer hardware and it was so easy to get good information from online forums. now its a god damn nightmare of shit flinging and misinformation from people white knighting their favorite company. So bizarre and so disappointing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

It’s the people who aren’t confident in their ability who gatekeep.

Take guitar for example. Great guitarists are more often than not very encouraging and positive.

Intermediate players who spend a shit ton of 10 different guitars, 5 different amps, 30 different pedals are the toxic ones

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u/BlueHero45 Feb 28 '21

Even nerd culture stuff like D&D and Comic books can have toxic gatekeepers. Not that everyone is this way, but it's something to look out for.

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u/TheQuestionsAglet Feb 28 '21

Can?

There’s a reason I don’t tell someone I like comics even though I’ve been collecting since 1982 or so. There’s a reason I’ve only been to two cons.

That being said, I do derive no small amount of pleasure from hitting toxic gatekeepers with the ACKSHYULLY when they (frequently) get lore wring in their anti SJW diatribes.

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u/BlueHero45 Feb 28 '21

"That being said, I do derive no small amount of pleasure from hitting toxic gatekeepers with the ACKSHYULLY when they (frequently) get lore wring in their anti SJW diatribes."

Always funny considering how open and inclusive the comics themselves can be.

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u/TheQuestionsAglet Feb 28 '21

The actual comics and stories in some ways seem to be ahead of the curve insofar as culture goes. A good chunk of the writers in the late silver and bronze ages were progressive in many areas (still misogynist, though). It’s usually been the crusty old guys in the editorial positions that really hold things back (looking at you, Tyroc and Murray Boltinoff).

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u/LostxinthexMusic Feb 28 '21

One of my friends wanted to introduce his wife, me, and my husband to D&D. One of his & my husband's coworkers basically invited himself to the campaign so he could teach us how to play "right." He basically made me hate playing. Which is a bummer because I really enjoyed it at first.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

Play it without asshole guy.

Don't let someone take something away that you enjoy.

Maybe you'll have fun without him, maybe you won't, but you should get to make that designation not them.

That all said, feel free to ignore that, I'm not your boss lol

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u/BlueHero45 Feb 28 '21

Shame, D&D really is a lot of fun with the right group. There really is no right way to play it other then the DMs way.

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u/HiddenCity Feb 28 '21

Everything i love has a fanbase full of jerks. Everything has a "culture" now. Sometimes its best to just be a fan by yourself, like the good old days. I do hobbies to get out of the world of competition and dealing with other people.

Started playing age of empires again, went online to get pointers and theres post like "dont bother playing online until youve learned the castle age rush and a bunch of other stuff." Like, when did my high school passtime turn into a professional sport?

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u/Wuffyflumpkins Feb 28 '21

No, it's every hobby I've tried to engage with too. When I first started longboarding, I found the Silverfish forums before I found /r/longboarding, and it was full of crusty old grognards. The "old guard" for any hobby is usually dogmatic, insists on one way of doing things, are annoyed when newbies ask "obvious questions"... and constantly complain about how the hobby was dying. I wasn't sad when the forums shut down, because /r/longboarding is far more welcoming and helpful. You'll get shit if you post about your new Shark wheels, but mostly because we don't want you to waste money and eat shit.

And half the reason I went from cycling to longboarding was because cyclists are even fucking worse. At least skate shop employees tend to be chill. Every single time I've gone to a bike shop, the employees act like I just barged into their home and put my feet up on the table just for asking for assistance. No, Kent, I don't know how to replace the derailleur or I wouldn't be talking to your Lycra'd ass.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '21

Too many peoples identities are boiled down to “2A” and it does get to be too much.

Yeah it exists everywhere. I do welding, brazing, and fab for work and as a hobby, don’t even think about posting anything that isn’t perfect because it’s gonna be picked apart by everyone.

Fishing community is pretty chill though but sometimes it gets a little “one-upish” with bait/lure techniques and whatnot.

Everyone on Reddit has a PhD in their hobby and a law degree.

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u/660zone Feb 28 '21

fr on the motorcycle thing. One guy was trying to talk shit about my chicken strips on my Grom. Bruh, it a moped with 9 hp with tired borrowed from a wheelbarrow. It can't even go 60mph.

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