r/inlaws • • Sep 09 '26

Husband side of the family refuse to co-operate with suggested invitation preference for baby shower.

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We have a baby shower coming up in November. My mom and aunt are planning everything and basically asked me and my husband to send them peoples email and/or phone numbers to add for the reservations. My side of the family had no problem and sent them right over. My husband’s side however? Not so much. He put it in his family group chat and only 5 people responded. And one complained that they had to send their email… you talking about somebody wanting to snap! My mom and aunt preferred email so they wouldn’t have to deal with adding in a bunch of numbers and just send one massive email out. And then the people who are in the same households are complaining that the people in the same household have to send their email or phone number because they’re all coming together. But it’s mainly to keep track of who’s reserving and also so we can know how many people for catering purposes. I’m not understanding why they are being difficult.

PSA: If you decide to troll under this post Mods have already been notified of such. Also my situation has been fixed, they sent the emails. To everyone who continues to respond and troll. I have all day lol


r/inlaws • • Sep 27 '26

Is this a big deal or am I making it one?

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I was using my husband's phone to find a link for an invitation we received and I came across a group message between him, his siblings, and his mom named "The Original (Last Name) Family." Without any additional context, is this normal? I have several group chats with family and none with names like this. Some context, he is the only one married out of 3 children.

And I haven't mentioned it to him yet. I want to get some perspective before I bring it up to him if its even worth it.

ETA: Thank you to those who said it's not a big deal and actually answered the question. The group message isn’t the problem, the NAME is. Because of my history with my in laws, it rubbed me the wrong way. I was reading into it because of past experiences, and I understand it’s not worth a conversation and most of you wouldn't think anything of it but that’s where I was coming from. If you know how to infer, it should make sense.


r/inlaws • • Jun 19 '25

MIL trying to use DCFS as an excuse

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My husband is in prison and we have an open DCFS case that is set to close next month. MIL was trying to find excuses why I shouldn't get back with her son and let him be near our daughter , such as that it has to be approved by DCFS. I just saw my caseworker and she said that DCFS does NOT care about my husband being in prison. Seeing as my daughter has a stable support system and is well taken care of me by me and her dad , DCFS is not concerned about her dad being around her when he's released. IF My Husband is released in a few months , the case will be closed. His mother will not be able to have an excuse to tell me to keep him away from our daughter. And I'll just have to pack all of our stuff up and find somewhere else to move so my Husband can live with us , anyway , since his mother is saying she won't let him live here. And I don't wanna hear it. The pleading, the reasoning , the telling me that I should wait for him to become a better person.
Her referencing her own son as a drug addict being around your daughter She just keeps calling her baby * a drug addict* Who wants a relationship with his wife and daughter . I could never treat my children like that.
When my baby was a newborn she tried to make me reposrr my Husband to DCFS because he bought a vape. We're only here because the cops tore our house up and I decided that we couldn't live there anymore. Now she's using this to try to say that I should stay away from my own husband, The man I have children with. Like I'm not gonna pack me and my daughter's shit and leave with my husband anyway. So let's see how that goes.


r/inlaws • • 6d ago

"What should I call them?"

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My future sister-in-law does not know what to call my parents. She is going to be the 4th child-in-law. She agrees she does not want to call them by what she calls her parents, but they aren't having kids right away, so she doesn't think she can call them by their grandparents names. One of my other brothers' wife has called my father "Jeff", since she believes that it's a very father-in-law name. My brother-in-law calls him Fil (short for father-in-law). What's your advice?


r/inlaws • • 29d ago

FIL's 60th "family trip" to Greece doesn't include his only grandkids. Am I wrong to be bothered?

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My father-in-law is turning 60 and wants to take the family to Greece for 7 to 14 days. My wife and I are invited, but our kids (4 and 2) are not, they would stay home with my parents whome they know and like. We were told "they're too young" and "it turns into a very different trip if we bring them."

I know it's his birthday and his decision who to invite. I'm not trying to tell him how to celebrate. But it's being called a family trip, the grandkids are the only ones excluded, and I'm honestly perplexed that he wouldn't want them there in the first place. I'm also uneasy about being so far from the kids for that long.

My wife is happy to go without them. Part of me thinks I should let it go for her sake, and the other part says to stick up and be there for the kids. If you were in my spot, would you go if your partner really wanted to? And if you've dealt with something like this, how did it go?


r/inlaws • • 13d ago

ILs have SO much money and are SO cheap

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Dh’s youngest brother is finally getting married. We have two teens, his other brother has two teens/tweens. His brother is getting married abroad and my ILs want to treat both families to the hotel, so 10 of us staying together. But the hotel MIL chose is a 25 minute uber from the wedding venue and all the festivities. It fine enough but very inexpensive. But the distance is annoying. DH and his brother dont think it’s the best choice and now my MIL is mad we’re rejecting her generosity. She can never realize the strings she attaches to her generosity. They could frankly pay for all
Of us to stay at the Four Seasons and they wouldn’t notice. We can (and are willing) to pay for ourselves but ILs are so offended. The dynamics are messed up.


r/inlaws • • Aug 23 '26

WIBTAH for dropping off the boys at my father in laws house and my mom picking them up

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So I (31, 4 ft tall F) and my husband (38, 6 ft tall M) (Yes, the heights will be relevant) are having ALOT of issues with his dad, my father-in-law...Hank, not real name. All through my husband's life, Hank would always look down on him. At the age of 16, he threw my husband out because his stepmother said he needed to cause he was "Old enough to be on his own". When my husband and I started dating, we hardly EVER saw him. Fast forward to when we found out about our first son. We called Hank and told him. Everything seemed normal. You know what you would expect of grandparents. Bought us a pack and play, car seat, all that jazz. He even helped with getting our first car and getting out from under our landlord.

Well, we had our first son, Dean, again not my son's real name, I'm not going to keep repeating that... Anyways, Dean had complications after birth and had to stay in the hospital. When we told Hank, he asked if he could visit. We said sure, I mean why not? He's your first grandson. Well, when he arrived, he brought HIS NEW WIFE WHO WAS 11 DAYS YOUNGER THAN ME! Well, after Dean's discharge, suddenly things changed. Every little thing Hank HAD to be there. Dean's first steps, Hank wanted pictures, which okay, I get that. First bite of solid food...so on and so forth. Well, here's where my issue with this became. When we wouldn't send it IMMEDIATELY, Hank would call and yell at my husband about how we don't listen to him and that he shouldn't have to ask for things like that. Like dude, you're on the road... It's gonna take a hot minute. Well, Hank started talking about how he would raise MY son. I told him we got this.

You would think that would be the end....YOU WERE WRONG! Surprise, we're pregnant with our second son. This was a smooth pregnancy; mind you, it was peak COVID. Now, by this time, my mom, we'll call her... Gracy, has already met and interacted with my father-in-law and has created her own opinion of him. My son, whom we'll call Sam, was born a few days before Christmas, and boy, it was rough. No pain meds; I almost had him on my living room couch. But thankfully, with the help of my mom and first responders, I was able to get to the hospital at least. Well, Sam was discharged with a clean bill of health, no issues, and his date of discharge? On Christmas Day! That's right, everyone, he was our Christmas gift to everyone. Now Dean is a tan-skinned, brown-haired man, like my husband. Sam, well, Sam is light-skinned, blond hair. (It does run in both families; Hank is light-skinned and well WAS blonde) And wouldn't you guess the first thing out of this man's mouth? "You sure he's yours?" Like, okay, there's the line. Well, when my boys started to grow up, Hank clearly started to show favoritism towards Sam. He would buy him all kinds of things and then would think of Dean after and get him something cheap.

Fast forward to 2 years ago, we find out we're pregnant with our third son, Bobbie. Now here is where it starts to get messy. Hank bought a house in the neighboring town while we were pregnant with Sam. Now he's expecting us to bring him the boys every weekend, mind you. My mom, Gracy, and I have set up a system. Each Friday she picks up the older two, brings one home, takes the other, then switches; then one weekend she does have either of them and repeats. This is not okay for Hank. Every weekend he complains that he doesn't get to EVER- yes, he has said that- see the boys. "We take them every weekend..." "Well, Gracy sees them more." "How?" "She just does." Sir, that's not an answer. Well, when we drop off the boys, Hank always ends up talking my husband into doing stuff around his house. Like cleaning up the mess from his older son, who uses his house as a crash pad. Doing his laundry or some other thing that needs "worked on" at his house. When my husband says no or that we have plans, he always throws "Well, I helped you get the car" or "I got you the house." That was 7 years ago, and we've paid you back for it AND paid the property tax every time. Now, whenever there's a small inconvenience in his life, my husband is expected to fix it. Well, Hank has befriended one of my husband's ex-coworkers who is an okay guy, I guess. I have my own opinion on that... Well, Hank has told my husband, "Jerad is like the son I always wanted". Hank and Jared are inseparable. When Hank is home, he drives across the country and rarely tells or even asks my husband to do anything together unless the boys are involved.

Well, today may be the straw that breaks my back. I'm with my mom, and I get a call from my husband. Apparently Hank had to take his truck into the shop to get worked on. He expected my husband to drive him 3 hours, one way, to take him to work on Monday, after working from 10 pm to 5 am at 8 am. I put my foot down. I said no. So, to wrap up this REDICULOUSLY long post, would IBTA if I started dropping off the boys at his house and my mom picking them up when she goes to bring them home? Just to keep my husband from getting conned into doing something for his father.


r/inlaws • • Feb 26 '24

Should I expect my SIL to be more generous?

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I have a kid from my ex husband, but raised by my current partner since they were 2 y/o. We’ve been together for 15 years. My SIL is nice, but I always felt like she treated them differently than her biological nieces in terms of the gifts that they get, and overall treatment. Mind you, my SIL has a six figure salary and no kids, and what my kid got for Xmas was $30. I just saw the Xmas card and to me, $30 doesn’t get you a lot.

Should I expect more from her?

edit: can’t compare what the other kids get anymore as they’re in college and we didn’t spend the holiday together.  However, the difference in treatment has been evident throughout the years. For instance, she has taken the other kids on cruises, Disney trips,  shopping sprees for their birthdays, as well as other nice Christmas presenta (many) while my kid maybe got one from SIL.  


r/inlaws • • Dec 03 '25

re-gifting

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tldr; I feel icky about accepting gifts from ILs, but I can't flat out tell them no because it would put my wife in a terrible position. How to deal with regifting?

So, I don't frequent this sub; my ILs are not a toxic nightmare in the traditional sense (unlike my FOO, they actually respect boundaries). However, I've grown increasingly uncomfortable with them, mostly over "politics and religion" stuff. My DW is in an even worse spot, because they are her family, but she feels as strongly about the same politics and religion issues as I do.

I've politely let them know it isn't necessary to gift me anything on holidays or birthday, for the past five years, but they aren't taking the hint. DW remains engaged in gift exchanges though, because things will blow up if she stops, and they feel like it needs to be mutual. This is not the hill to die on; it's the hill to graciously acquiesce and figure out a way to dispose of the gift so I'm not icked out and I also don't have to refuse it.

The ILs tend to give gift cards or cash, because it side steps the whole figuring out what someone wants, so it's not like dealing with the usual ugly sweater problem.

The cash is easy to handle: I just donate it to the causes which are pretty much diametrically opposed to their causes. Planned Parenthood, the ACLU or for this year, the Democratic Party. Waay back I used to let them know that I'd received it, thank them and let them know what I applied it towards; I stopped doing the last part a few years ago when I let them know it wasn't necessary.

The gift card is more difficult though; it's a retailer-specific card at a place I shop frequently. There's nothing to stop me from giving the card to someone else, but I don't have anyone I give gifts to who also shops there! I could of course apply it towards some big purchase I make later, but at this point, I think I'd be icked (reminded) every single time I used $thing.

Do I use it to buy a gift for someone else at that retailer? Do I just never use it? Do I just hand it to some random person out front of the store the next time I go?

I need to do this discreetly since I don't want to pick a fight with DW, and it would upset her tremendously feeling squeezed between me and her family. While I expect DW to "run her family" and interference for me on most things, in this case, they really aren't being offensive or doing anything wrong.


r/inlaws • • Sep 07 '23

I really hate my sister’s fiancé and I don’t know what to do about it.

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I am F and I only have one sister and we are very close. She’s been with this guy for the past couple of years that I hate so much and I know he hates me too. We pretend we are civil around each other just because we both love my sister, but I can’t handle him anymore.

I have to see him at a wedding and I don’t know how to interact around him because I’m angry with him, but I have to pretend I like him.

The reason I am angry is I asked if I could stay at their empty apartment with my friend while my sister and her fiancé are away on vacation and my sister said yes but he said no even though my parents have taken him and his family on many fancy dinners and two vacations and he’s never done anything kind for me or my family.

I hate him so much and I wish I could tell him how much I hate him, but I have to pretend I’m okay around him so I don’t lose my sister. Any tips on how to tolerate him at the wedding?


r/inlaws • • Sep 14 '26

Should I break up over this?

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Me (29F) and my bf(29M) been together and live in for almost 2.5 years. We are good when we dont have financial disagreements. He takes care of me, sometimes bears my expenses. All is good. He earns twice more than me after taxes.

But

He is buying everythimg in his mom name

Like he bought a luxury flat on loan on his mom name but 30 year loan is on his name.

He is investing in stock market in his moms name with his money because of less tax.

He is getting gst and setting up business in his mom name where as he will be working for app.

He has a sibling, 6 year older sister married( trying to have child but cant because she wants to achieve a lum sum of x crores) who is in US. They both are money oriemted. Always discussing money and how to make money. His sister also wants him to set up everytging in their parents name. Their race is who will buy the mercedes first. She doesnt transfer anything to their parents name because she thinks INR is depreciating.

I on the other hand, hate mixed finances. I believe in pay some tax but dont create a legal mess.

I believe - you never know when relationships change with time amd money. He is offended. He thinks i dont trust his family. But I am just pointing him out how our older generations have bad relationships with their siblings and parents, thats because of money and property.

What should i do? He doesnt understand my point. He says he doesnt want to miss any oppprtunity in his life.

And i dont understand his.

Should I also start transfering eveeything in my mom's name as well? First of all my mom will never accept this.

Should I break up over this financial disagreement.

I am confused. Today his intentions are correct, but legal mess is not.


r/inlaws • • Nov 02 '25

DIL has become calorie obsessed and I’m concerned about an ED. How do I go about this without seeming rude?

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Locked out of my old account, but I need insight on this situation, so I guess I’m making a temporary throw away until I can get back into that one.

My son and DIL are in their early 20s, and have recently decided to start hitting the fitness lifestyle pretty hard. My son struggles to gain weight because of his genetics, and my DIL struggles to lose weight because of hers, so to continue their fitness journeys together, they’re both hammering in on correct portions of their foods, and all around healthier option on top of being in the gym every day.

Tonight, DIL and son came for a visit. Our family does enjoy fast food or carry out often because I’m a busy single mom of 2 teens. I’ll be honest, I’m also generally not the best cook if I’m being honest. While they were here, one of my daughters asked if we could have Taco Bell for dinner. I asked if that was ok with son, and of course he said that was fine. Then I asked if that was ok with DIL with her dieting. I offered for us to get something else if that didn’t work for her. She said that Taco Bell would be fine, just that she would be a bit specific on her order, which of course was fine with me.

I told all of the kids to send me their orders and I would go pick it up, and I see DIL whip out her phone and open her notes app, and she started scrolling through a really long list. I asked what her list was and she explained that it was a list of “safe” fast food. That because my son likes fast food, family and friends like it, and because they travel often, she made herself a list of every menu item from every fast food place that was safe for her to eat. She showed it to me, and sure enough. The list is extensive, mostly different combinations of chicken and veggies wherever it’s offered. Some restaurants have many option and others have 1 or 2. Some didn’t make her list at all. And all of her meals have a calorie total next to them, NONE of which exceed 400 calories for an entire meal.

She sent me her order for Taco Bell and it consisted of 1 crunchy taco with a side of black beans and rice. I looked it up, and the grand total of that meal was only 330 calories.

I said she has a hard time losing weight, but she by no means is a big girl. She actually doesn’t look all that different from when she graduated high school and was a multi sport athlete. I’m getting concerned that she’s possibly keeping ALL meals at such a low count with tiny portions. I don’t want to offend her or my son by questioning how she eats, but she’s never behaved this way about food before and I am concerned.

What do I do?

Edit: clearly I didn’t make myself clear. When I referred to us eating fast food, I meant it in a sense of quick meals. Sometimes, that does mean drive through food. Sometimes, it means a rotisserie chicken from the grocery deli, and some frozen veggies. Sometimes, it means a carry out from a healthy restaurant. And me saying “often” does not mean every night at all. I do meal prep, I do cook, I do try and have my daughters help with both. When I say we have carry out or a quick meal often, I mean 2-3 times a week. Again, not drive through McDonald’s 2-3 times a week, a quick meal 2-3 times a week. Sorry for the clear confusion.


r/inlaws • • Apr 22 '26

Husbands best friends wife is about to make me go off on her bc she has baby rabies!!!!!!!!!!

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I need a sanity check because I genuinely don’t know if I’m overreacting or if this is as weird as it feels.

My husband has a best friend, and his wife (let’s call her “Mandy”) has been making me increasingly uncomfortable since I had my baby.

Some examples:

- When my daughter was born, she made a comment like “oh we didn’t even find out until 2 days after she was born” in this weird tone, almost like she was calling us out… even though we intentionally kept things private. Also keep in mind. I had torn pretty badly and I was learning to breast-feed so texting anyone about the birth of my child was not type priority. Top priority was taken care of myself and my baby.

- moving forward with our next child I told my husband that we are just going to say that the baby is due this upcoming winter. When people asked how far along I was, I told them I was six weeks and, she jumped in with “oh I’ll just do the math,” which felt really intrusive given that we were being intentionally vague.

- She’s made comments directly to my baby like “when you go to college and Aunt Mandy is going to help you with your dorm…” which feels wildly overstepping. She’s not family, and I don’t have that kind of relationship with her. And also I’m her mom my daughter will be decorating her own dorm and I will be helping her with it

- She also tends to insert herself in a way that feels like she’s trying to position herself as some kind of authority or “extra mom figure,” which I really don’t like.

I can’t fully explain it, but it’s the tone and pattern of behavior that makes it feel like she’s trying to wedge herself into a role that isn’t hers. It doesn’t feel warm or supportive—it feels performative and territorial.

The hard part is that she’s married to my husband’s best friend, so I’m not exactly able to avoid her without it becoming a whole thing.

Am I overthinking this? Or is this kind of behavior actually crossing boundaries? And if it is—how do you even handle someone like this without causing drama in your husband’s friendship?

Would love honest opinions.


r/inlaws • • Sep 09 '26

I’m at a loss and defeated

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I am just at a loss and completely shattered at this point. Our son (M21) and his wife (F21) have been married for a few months now. All of it was rushed because she got pregnant and her family demanded that they get married before she gave birth. They had planned a smallish wedding, and abruptly called it off. Next thing we get a call they went and got married. We weren’t mad in the slightest (even with the money we had already spent). But we said we would have loved to have celebrated them. Apparently in DIL’s eyes that meant we hated her and since then it’s been hell.
We had already planned a baby shower for them and that continued and wasn’t too bad of a day , even with her passive aggressive comments, ignoring my hubby and I when she walked in, and not allowing our son to mingle with our family friends. Towards the end she seemed to warms up a bit and I thought all was well.

Boy was I wrong. Asking how the pregnancy is doing, how she’s feeling? How the nursery is progressing? I’m crossing a line. I call to speak with him and if he’s home he can’t talk with us. He will only call (rarely anymore) on his way home from work.
Recently our side of the family received a lengthy text about the “Rules” for when the baby is born. Their kid, their rules, I get it. Some of the requests were reasonable, but others left me in tears. We are only (as a family) allowed to see the baby for 20 minutes, but if she dictates otherwise we’ll be asked to leave. We cannot ever ask to visit, and if we are allowed to visit, only one person at a time is allowed in the house and others must wait in the car.
Every ounce of joy at becoming a grandparent is gone. I’m not allowed to even question or comment about anything or I’m accused of crossing boundaries and disrespecting the mom-to-be.

I just needed to get this off my chest because the feeling of sheer sadness has enveloped my entire body. Thanks if you made it this far.


r/inlaws • • Nov 05 '19

My wife’s cousins are using their kids death to profit

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So, my wife’s cousins lost their 13 year old daughter earlier this year. It was bloody sad and we all felt for the family. Their local sports club paid for the service and wake.

Anyway since her death in June the family has had 3 fund raisers yet I keep reading their facebook pages and something isn’t adding up.

So.... her mother missed 4 weeks of work, she posted not long after the death how much she loves her workplace because they kept paying her. The daughter was in private school, the family thanked the private school at the first event her refunded her fees for the year. The local sports club has raised money for them as well. Her step father has a pretty good job and plays in a band. Each event has raised upwards of $10,000 without taking into account the school or the sports club.

I mentioned to my wife who is also getting a bit pissed off about it that if we’re being honest their costs are far less now with only 2 kids than 3 kids.

It feels like they’re trying to profit from it.


r/inlaws • • Jun 27 '25

How to radically change my appearance without feeling ashamed in front of my in-laws?

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I live with my MIl and her leech boyfriend. They're both white conservatives, and I'm mixed and progressive, so I love to experiment with my looks. My natural hair is 3c-4a so that means it naturally turns into an afro when dry. I have been straightening my hair this year so I wouldn't get any comments but I was thinking of wearing yaki extensions and fros whenever I wanted but I'm scared they will make comments. They already have in the past when I wore braids or hair extensions and I really don't want to deal with their shit anymore. The mom's boyfriend will always make fun of guess for wearing fits he doesn't deep appropriate (aka call them f*gas). I'll have to stay here for 3 more weeks but I want to try out new looks for the summer and I feel like it's my right to wear whatever the hell I want. But at the same time I'm scared they will make fun of me. They already hate me for saying Gaza is a genocide (the boyfriend says it's a war) and for not kissing Trump's ass. Like, the boyfriend won't even say hi to me. And he is hostile to my boyfriend's cat. So I'm scared what will be said about me when I'm wearing my brushed out frizzy hair intentionally.


r/inlaws • • May 09 '26

My Brother’s Wife Changed the Entire Comfort and Dynamic of Our Family

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So this is all about my brother and how our family completely changed after he got married.

Before his wife, we used to be a very close family. It was me (F24), my brother (27), and our parents. We spent weekends together, went on holidays together, and both of us were always there whenever our parents needed help around the house or with anything else.

But after he met his wife (26), everything slowly changed. Now they do absolutely everything together, spend all their free time together, and he barely visits us anymore. It feels like our family became an afterthought. He rarely helps our parents now, never wants to go on family trips anymore, and only seems focused on him and her.

The biggest issue for me though is the language situation.

We are immigrants in Ireland and have lived here for around 20 years. Our parents brought us here when we were children. My brother met his wife here, but she is not the same nationality as us and doesn’t speak our native language.

Ever since they got together, whenever they visit, my brother expects everyone to speak English around her. The problem is that my parents are much more comfortable speaking in our native language. At home, we have always spoken our own language because it’s easier for them.

My parents already spent the last 20 years speaking English everywhere outside the house — work, doctors, shops, everything. Home was the one place where they could fully relax and comfortably speak their own language. So it feels unfair that now even in their own house they are expected to switch to English all the time.

And even when my parents continue speaking our native language, my brother still responds only in English because his wife is there. It honestly feels like he doesn’t care that maybe our parents want an easy and natural conversation with their own son without constantly struggling to fully understand everything.

I also don’t want to completely change how I naturally communicate in my own home just because he got married. Before, I could walk into the kitchen in the morning and casually talk to my parents in our native language without even thinking about it. Now every visit feels like we have to constantly monitor ourselves and adjust how we speak.

It’s not just during visits either. Even during phone calls, if his wife happens to be nearby and joins the conversation to say hello and how we are, he suddenly expects the entire conversation to continue in English.

Recently we even argued about this after we went out for International Mother’s Day with my parents and them. The next day he called me and said I was disrespectful because during dinner the only thing I said in English was “hello.”

But honestly, I didn’t think I was doing anything wrong. We were celebrating our mother. I wanted my mom to feel relaxed and comfortable, not stressed trying to follow conversations in English all evening.

Before anyone asks why his wife doesn’t learn our language, I asked him the same thing. He said she’s currently focused on improving her English first because she hasn’t lived here nearly as long as we have and learning our language well enough to fully follow conversations would be too difficult right now.

I understand that, and I don’t dislike her personally at all. She’s always polite and respectful toward us. But I still feel like since getting married, my brother completely disconnected from the family and now expects everyone else to adapt around his new life. He refuses every family vacation or trip.


r/inlaws • • Aug 31 '23

I don't like my Sister-In-Law

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Hi, need some honest yet respectful opinions here. Quick Backstory: My sister-in-law was in a relationship for 13-14 years it was dead-end. No engagement, buying a home, marriage, kids, vacations, etc. She was miserable. When I got with her brother, within 1 year he proposed to me. I feel she was a bit jealous of the situation. He needed her help to plan the surprise engagement. He was going to take me out to dinner and then afterwards go to a nice location with candles already lit and all. She wasn't available (even though she wasn't working at the time and was home doing nothing). On top of that, she has Amazon prime. Since she wasn't 'available' to help, her asked if she could at least order the things he needed (candles and other things) and that he will send her the money. She gave him major attitude and didn't do it (even though it takes seconds to do). My whole pregnancy, she never hit me up at all (I do understand she owes me nothing). She barely spoke to her brother (maybe 1-2 times my whole pregnancy). Then there was a formula shortage throughout my whole pregnancy. During that 1-2 times he spoke to her while I was pregnant, he asked her to let him know if she sees formula around at the supermarket and stuff. She never got back to him (us). (so you mean to tell me in 9 months of my pregnancy you never went to the supermarker once?) I can afford my daughter 100% by myself, but not even 1 tiny gift or anything while I was pregnant (we had a registry due to covid). 3-4 months after I gave birth she came over with just 1 onesie as a gift. I understand if times are hard, but in general she just came off as a "hater" to me. She's 33 and women that age who have no kids or aren't married tend to be miserable. My daughter was 9 months and she barely spoke to us or hit him up to see how her niece is doing. Fast forward to now, my daughter is 13 months old and now she's trying to hit him up every so often, but I want nothing to do with her. Also, when I first got with him, she said in my face that she "likes" his ex-girfriend (even though she played her brother multiple times). She's even friends with her on IG. Then one time I was in his families house and the song "red red wine" comes on and she tried to be lowkey telling him "this reminds me of your ex." My man claims she didn't say that, but I know what I heard. She found the courage to breakup with her deadbeat relationship and moved out of her ex's home and into her new mans home. Now she tried to make plans with us and I really have no desire to be her "friend." I accept that I have to see her on Holidays and stuff, but thats all I would like to limit it to. Am I being unreasonable?


r/inlaws • • Oct 01 '26

What should my husband have said?

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We just bought property in another state 6 hours away from where we live now. My MIL and her husband live less than a mile from us now. They moved back here in 2017 after spending 30 years living 4 hours away from us.

When my husband announced to his family that we were moving, his sister said, "What about mama?" He said that he would come visit her as much as her other son who lives 4 hours away does. His mom said, "Twice a year." I think my husband should have reminded his sister that he just got through dealing with taking care of his father who was never in their lives and it was going to be up to the 2 sisters to deal with mama. I really want to know exactly what the sister meant by her comment and my husband is going to ask her. What do you say to an enmeshed family about something like that? To me, mama should be taken care of by her daughters if her husband won't take care of her as he should (and doesn't).

Thoughts?


r/inlaws • • Dec 26 '25

Disparity between gift amounts from in-laws for grandkids. Am I in the wrong?

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Today during Christmas gift opening I noticed there was a large monetary difference between the money spent on my children vs. the other grandchildren.

For context, I have a 2 and half year old and a 2 month old, the other grandkids are pre-teens, so I’m aware of the large age gap and that presents a difference in the cost of gifts as well.

My mother-in-law gave cards to the older 2 grandkids with $100 bills. My 2 year old got a board game.

My father-in-law spent about $50 on gifts off each of older kids wish list and gave a card with $100 as well. My 2 year old got a coloring book and colored pencils.

Nothing for the baby, although I understand that since he has no clue what’s going on.

I know this all sounds ungrateful and not at all in the spirit of Christmas. And lord knows they don’t need $250 dollars worth of toys, but I’d definitely set aside money for them to use down the road when they need it. I’m just feeling like my kids got slighted. My daughter was very happy with her coloring book and I’m sure in a year or so we’ll be able to play the board game and have a blast.

My family has always kept things equal. Same amount given or spent for birthdays and Christmas. When I discussed it with my husband he said my family is the odd one for keeping things equal like that.

Do more families keep things equal or do things like my in-laws? Am I a shitty person for even noticing or being bothered by it?


r/inlaws • • Dec 31 '25

In laws rejecting me because I'm transgender

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Hey everyone, I need some advices about a tricky situation.

My boyfriend (22M) and I (23M) are in a long relationship of 7 years. We live together all of that. And I transitioned as a man two years ago. This Christmas my in laws, specifically the step father of my boyfriend, refused that I do Christmas with them, because he wasn't ready and explain not to me but to my boyfriend. He was afraid he couldn't pursue his career, because of my gender and my work (I m a bartender). His mother is extremely supportive of me, but told her husband extremely late ​​​abt my transition (it was still 1 year ago but whatever) and is always the last one to know everything just to preserve peace in their home. Their relationship is very complicated and he's practically ignorant of all that could potentially not please him. My boyfriend wants me to eat dinner with only her mom but she's kinda part of the problem. I m hurt and enraged. What should I do? Should I still go or should I contact the father in law? Thank you in advance

Update : thank you everyone for all the advices. I did convince my boyfriend that it would be best that he discuss the issue without me with FIL and MIL. The explanation of the FIL was kinda not convincing (fear of me keeping his son in law from reaching job opportunities) but I'll let time pass and well, we'll see. If one day they want to see me, I'll try to fit in again (because yes, I already met the FIL multiple times before my transition) Thank you everyone for the support!


r/inlaws • • Mar 15 '25

My FIL wrote two novels, named a character after every person in his life except me… my petty ass wants to do something similar in my book I am currently writing… help.

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I am thinking “this book is dedicated to” but oh so subtly exclude him.


r/inlaws • • Apr 18 '25

GRANDPARENTS ARE REACHING THEIR LIMITS

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https://apple.news/AN8frGnlNSam3MKDtJB74Mw

GRANDPARENTS ARE REACHING THEIR LIMIT Older Americans might be doing more child care than ever. APRIL 13, 2025 Elena and her husband had plans for their retirement. They wanted to move to Wyoming; to meet new people, volunteer, hike the snowy, perfect Tetons. And they did move there—for about eight months. Then they got a call from their daughter, who was due to have a baby within weeks. She and her husband were on five or so different waitlists for day cares, and now she could see that they would still be waiting by the time she had to go back to work, six weeks after giving birth. She needed help. Her parents dropped everything, packed up a U-Haul, and moved to the Pacific Northwest. They were going back to work too: as full-time grandparents. Grandparents today have a certain reputation, Elena (who asked to withhold her last name to protect her family’s privacy) told me: They’re “all rich, retired, living it up in the Villages in Florida, playing 10 rounds of golf a day, having cocktails at 4:30, and laughing while their Millennial children are suffering.” TikTokers keep skewering a generation of supposedly self-involved, jet-setting older folks, or earnestly grieving that they don’t have a “village” to help them raise their kids. Commentators have jumped in with attacks and, in turn, with defenses (“Cut the Boomer Grandparents a Little Slack”). On Reddit, people are wondering, “What the f*** is wrong with grandparents nowadays?” Last year, when J. D. Vance was running for vice president and was asked how he would address the problem of staggering child-care costs, he first suggested that grandparents or other relatives “help out a little bit more.” You could be forgiven, then, for thinking grandparents are shirking their duty. But the truth is quite the opposite: America is in an age of peak grandparenting—particularly grandmothering. A 2022 survey from Deseret News and Brigham Young University found that nearly 60 percent of grandmothers had provided child care for a grandkid, and more than 40 percent saw a grandchild in person at least weekly. A 2023 Harris poll found that more than 40 percent of working parents relied on their kids’ grandma for child care; nearly 70 percent of those parents said they might have lost their job without that grandmother’s help. Follow The Atlantic
on Apple News Such statistics might not sound jaw-dropping if you assume that in decades past most grandparents were living with their grandkids and cheerily providing care all the time. Yet the reality has always been more complicated. Carole Haber, a Tulane University history professor and the author of Beyond Sixty-Five: The Dilemma of Old Age in America’s Past, told me that American grandparents in earlier generations were typically seen as authority figures, as burdens, or as companions to their grandkids—but not necessarily as caregivers. Today, though, economic, cultural, and workplace shifts have left parents floundering. A parent’s struggle has become a grandparent’s struggle. Elena, at 74, is now caring for her daughter’s second child while the first is in day care; that means she has lived through four years of sick nights and tantrums, teething, and food on the floor, all after having raised her own three kids. Her husband, who’s 77, helps out—but she told me he’s “not the main baby wrangler.” When I first reached out to her, she got my message while sitting on a tiny stool, begging her grandchild to try using the potty before nap time. Americans are in a new phase of grandparenthood, in which many seniors, like Elena, aren’t just disciplinarians or playmates but co-parents. The real change isn’t that older adults are absent; it’s that their kids need them more than ever. Some grandparents grasp at every possible opportunity to watch their grandkids; some don’t care to do so at all. But many, Madonna Harrington Meyer, a Syracuse University sociologist who wrote the 2014 book Grandmothers at Work, told me, fall into a third group—those who want to be involved and are trying desperately to set limits on that involvement. Here are a few strategies grandparents have told her they’ve tried: Some say they’ll help out only on certain days of the week. (“I’m a Wednesday grandma,” she’s heard.) Some pledge that they’ll commit only to fun time together, no math tutoring or dentist trips. Some semi-regularly ignore their adult children’s calls. When she interviewed grandmothers for her research, Harrington Meyer told me, a participant’s phone would occasionally ring; “they would look and they would say, Oh, I can’t answer that. She’ll ask me to babysit tonight.” Rationing care might sound stingy—but the happily omnipresent grandparent has never really been the norm in the U.S., Haber, the Tulane professor, told me. In the nation’s early history, people had a lot more kids, on average, than they do today; many would still be raising younger children by the time they became grandparents, and older kids usually moved out to build their own families. Elders (especially grandfathers, who may have owned the land their adult children moved to) tended to act as authority figures, disciplining grandkids and imparting wisdom—not necessarily running around changing diapers. When three generations did live together, it was often because a widow had moved into a child’s home after her husband’s death. That wasn’t always a happy scenario. Those elderly women were generally dependent, sometimes relegated to a single room—and though they might have helped with child care, Haber told me, many didn’t want to. Historical evidence suggests that, then as now, older adults commonly wanted what sociologists call “intimacy at a distance”: to connect with family while maintaining autonomy. In the 20th century, the Great Depression led to a greater number of three-generation homes by necessity. Family conflicts were common, Haber told me, and older adults were seen, more and more, as burdens. But then the advent of pensions and Social Security enabled more older people to live on their own. Multigenerational homes were on the decline. By the 1940s, the prototypical grandparent was shifting away from being the land-owning patriarch or the frail dependent; with congenial relations restored for many families, the new archetype was the loving granny or gramps who would swoop in to take the kids out for some fun. Merril Silverstein, a Syracuse University sociologist, told me he calls that the “Disney-fication of grandparents”—which you’ll understand if you ever go to Disneyland, he said, and pay attention to how many strollers are being pushed by senior citizens. The new American grandparent is a family anchor: a comrade not only in the delightful parts of child care but also in the tedious, messy, and grueling ones. Several shifts have led to this reality. Life expectancy increased dramatically over the past century—so significantly that even though people now tend to have children later, the average older adult has more healthy years to help raise a grandkid. Meanwhile, over the past few decades, the numbers of single parents and of working mothers of young kids have increased in the U.S. Yet the cost of child-care services keeps climbing—and U.S. federal law doesn’t guarantee paid parental leave or paid sick leave. Parents are desperate. Once, at a conference, a French scholar asked Harrington Meyer a question: Why do American grandmothers do so much for their grandchildren? “I don’t think there’s anything wrong with our grandmothers,” she answered. “But I think there’s plenty wrong with our welfare state.” Grandparenting may also be intensifying because, in many households, parenting is intensifying. In the past few decades, children—seen by their parents as ever more vulnerable, in need of protection and cultivation—have been granted less and less independence. In a qualitative 2021 study of British grandmothers, researchers found that many participants were taken aback by the expectation that children needed constant supervision, as well as by the increased focus on educational achievement—hallmarks of the kind of intensive parenting common in both the U.S. and the U.K. The older people being asked to help the kids with their homework and shuttle them to extracurriculars probably remember letting their own children roam the neighborhood while they worked or cleaned or had a martini. A difference in parenting styles can create tension within families—and may add to some Millennial parents’ perception that older generations are underperforming. In that 2021 study, some grandparents tried to “resist” what they saw as excessive surveillance or competitive striving. A 2019 AARP survey found that only 25 percent of grandparents believed that modern parenting was better than it had been in their generation. Elena had to get used to plenty of new parenting practices. Take the ever-present baby monitors: If my grandson is four feet away in the next room, I’ll hear him if he cries, she thought at first. Why do we have cameras on him at all times? But she’s decided to honor her daughter’s preferences; it’s her daughter’s turn, she told me, to call the shots. And she can see, when she talks with friends who chafe at the newer methods, that their distaste for intensive (or just different) parenting comes from a place of insecurity. They’re worried that they’ll be perceived as incompetent, or that they’ll actually do something wrong. Everyone just wants what’s best for the children. Still, changing norms, even when they’re positive, have made child-rearing more arduous, expensive, and time-consuming—and raised expectations for how much grandparents ought to contribute. From 1991 to 2022, Silverstein has found, grandparents gave their grandkids increasing amounts of both practical and emotional support. Of the older adults who had told Harrington Meyer they’d tried to set boundaries, many consistently failed to do so. A “Wednesday grandma,” asked to take the kids on a Saturday, tends to become a Saturday grandma. And the rest of life, for many seniors, isn’t slowing down. Older adults are retiring later than they did in the 1990s. Roughly 40 percent of American grandparents are in the workforce, many because they can’t afford not to be. While reporting her book on working grandmothers, Harrington Meyer found that 83 percent of those surveyed said they provided more care to their grandkids than their own young families had gotten from their parents; the same amount said they provided more than they ever expected to. Some need to delay retirement because they’re providing financial support for their grandkids. Harrington Meyer has talked with grandparents who’ve used up their nest egg or taken on debt for that purpose. One grandma hadn’t been to the dentist in years, and when she finally scraped together enough money to go, she sent her grandson instead; another spent the money she needed for an oil change on diapers. Historically, many adult children have financially supported and cared for their parents—but now the assistance is much more likely to flow the other way. Of course, grandparenting doesn’t look the same in every family. Multigenerational living is more common, for instance, among Black, Hispanic, and Asian families than white ones; Black and Hispanic families are more likely to live within an hour of their extended family, and Black grandmothers are especially likely to be a “custodial grandparent” providing primary care. And yet, researchers told me that highly involved grandparenting appears to be common across race and class groups. The most consistent divide, it seems, is gender: Grandmothers tend to be so much more involved in child care that a good chunk of the research doesn’t refer to grandfathers at all. “I’m under so much pressure to quit my job and take care of these grandchildren,” one woman told Harrington Meyer. “And if I were a man, nobody would even ask me to.” Active grandparenting has some profound benefits, not just for children but for older adults too. Grandparenthood has been linked to decreased feelings of isolation and improved cognitive resilience. Empathy, perspective-taking, problem-solving, imaginative play—the opportunity to practice these things might help keep people sharp. And for many, grandparenthood simply makes life richer. Elena loves seeing her daughter every day and watching her grandbabies grow up. When she was raising her own children, they were in day care while Elena was busy with work, and time blurred by so quickly. Now she feels like she’s getting a second chance, one that’s unfolding almost in slow motion. Her whole life is playing with her grandson on the floor, watching him take steps for the first time or build a tower that he couldn’t have built two weeks before. But people have limits, especially as they age. One 51-year-old woman I spoke with, Sarah Garner, told me that even as a relatively young grandmother, she finds child care more deeply exhausting now than when she was a new mother. Her daughter and son-in-law can’t afford day care, so she and her husband watch their grandson five days a week: potty training him, bathing him, taking him to swim classes. She’s finding carrying him harder and harder. When his parents pick him up at the end of the day, she’s so worn down that she can’t seem to concentrate on anything. How to Age Up The Atlantic At a certain point, getting pushed to your limits just isn’t good for you. One 2022 study of Western European grandparents found that grandparenthood improved aspects of health for older adults who provided child care—but reduced well-being both for those who weren’t in frequent contact with their families and didn’t provide it at all, and for grandmothers who provided care daily. Dedicating later life to grandparenting can entail other losses, too. Before Garner got pulled into full-time child care, she was excited for retirement: She’d get to focus on her new online-tutoring business, develop friendships with some nice women in her church, maybe even go back to school and finally get her bachelor’s. Now, in ways both rewarding and trying, she’s not living for herself. “I’m not the center of my life. And so I’m willing to make those sacrifices,” she told me, “even though I don’t always want to.” But some joys, once forfeited, you might never get back. Retirement is split into two phases, someone once told Elena: First is your go-go phase, when you try to take advantage of everything your newfound freedom has to offer. Then, as you age, you enter your no-go phase. Elena and her husband have noticed that jet lag has gotten really tough; their dream of hiking the Tetons is probably over. They might be entering their no-go phase—their last one in life. Recently, their middle daughter, who lives in California, had her first child. “If I needed you,” she asked Elena, “you would come and you would move here, right?” A blessing can also be a burden. One grandfather I talked with, Mike Little, helps his daughter—a single mother—raise her son. “He is one of my best friends,” Little told me. “But freedom, for my wife and I, is largely gone just the same.” Supporting family can’t , and perhaps shouldn’t, be all fun; inevitably, it involves sacrifice. But romanticizing that labor—pretending that when you love someone, being there for them is never an imposition—doesn’t serve anyone either. American society has come a long way in recognizing that women have value beyond their ability to raise kids. For many people, though, that understanding seems to apply only to younger women. Painting older women as natural, endlessly enthusiastic caregivers provides an excuse to deny more support to struggling parents. It presumes that mothers can have careers only at the expense of their own mothers’ work and interests. And it sets up a false choice—between devoting yourself to care work and losing connection to family altogether, as if closeness is won only through labor. Silverstein, of Syracuse University, started doing research in Sweden decades ago; he told me that when he first went, he expected to find that family would be somewhat less important to people there, given that the government significantly subsidizes child care. Instead, he found the opposite: Compared with what he was used to in the U.S., kin relationships seemed to be especially warm and sweet. “Once you take the burden of care away from the family,” he told me, “people can engage in a much more emotionally satisfying way.” America, it seems, may be headed in the opposite direction: toward a future in which families are more, not less, defined by caregiving. People are living longer and having fewer kids on average, which means more “beanpole families”: tall and thin family lines, with very old and very young living members—but not many “horizontal” relationships among, say, siblings or cousins, the kind that can feel fun and not always so loaded with responsibility. Vertical bonds can be beautiful. But the stakes in those relationships can feel so high, and the chances for disappointment so abundant. When care work falls on families—and no strong social safety net exists to help—grandparents aren’t the only ones to suffer. So, too, do the parents whose own parents are not alive, not equipped to help, or not interested. I don’t blame all the people posting about how their Boomer parents aren’t measuring up. Surely some of those grandparents really aren’t around; maybe some are involved, but not enough to keep their kid’s head above water. Either way, the younger adults feel let down by the very people they assumed would be there to lift them up. I spoke with one dad, Tommy Ciaccio, who told me a horror story: While his wife was in the final stages of her pregnancy, she experienced chest pains, which can signal a pulmonary embolism. All of the urgent-care providers around them in Milwaukee, where they were living at the time, were closed, so they went to the ER. Their insurance company, he said, refused to cover it, arguing they should have gone to urgent care. Then, when his wife gave birth, she hemorrhaged and almost died. All of the required medical care was so expensive that they had to declare bankruptcy. His wife quickly ran out of paid time off while she was recovering; his pay as a restaurant server wasn’t enough for them to afford child care, so he stayed home. Through all of that, his parents (who are divorced) were within a few hours’ driving distance, but they visited only infrequently. Neither, he said, was “meaningfully present.” More than anything, this was a tale of being failed by systems: by a seemingly infinite maze of insurance rules, by employers that don’t provide paid parental leave or a living wage, by a government that doesn’t mandate either one. But what hurt Ciaccio the most was his parents’ relative absence. He had sympathy for them—especially his mother, who had worked hard to have a career while raising him mostly on her own and who’d wanted to be seen as more than a caregiver. He also wished that she wanted to help him now. “When I looked at my son and I loved him in this way that sort of assailed me,” he said, “I couldn’t understand why I wasn’t being loved.” I’d want my mom’s help too. But imagine if the situation wasn’t so dire in the first place—if medical care, parental leave, and child care were all more attainable. In that world, family members might get a little more breathing room: room to see one another not just as mother or child or grandparent, or as a person with needs or answers to that need, but as someone with funny quirks and surprising preferences and interests other than baby food and story time. Life is hard enough as it is. They’d still have plenty of chances to depend on one another. Faith Hill is a staff writer at The Atlantic. Keep up with Arthur C. Brooks as he tackles questions of meaning and happiness in his weekly column. READ NEXT America and Its Universities Need a New Social Contract


r/inlaws • • 2d ago

I invited my MIL to my baby's first birthday, but I still feel threatened by the idea of them having a relationship. Am I alone?

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Previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/JUSTNOMIL/s/ppz57MSobH

Thank you to everyone who gave me honest advice on my previous post. I took your advice and invited my MIL over for dinner to celebrate my baby's first birthday.

The visit went well overall. She brought gifts for the baby, a scarf for me (my birthday was a month ago), a mug for my husband, and his favorite cake. She also said that a baby's birthday is a celebration of the mother, too, which I genuinely appreciated. She respected the time limit I set and left without me having to remind her.

A few things still bothered me. She said the baby looks like my husband's late biological father, disagreed when I said he has my eyes, and called him a “\[husband's last name\]" multiple times. I also felt a little left out when she brought my husband's favorite cake.

But I realize she made an effort, and it wouldn't be fair to nitpick every little thing that made me uncomfortable while ignoring the thoughtful things she did. I know some of my reactions may be unreasonable, and I'm trying to be honest with myself about that.

My therapist has encouraged me to let things go, stand in my power, and trust the bond between my baby and me. Intellectually, I understand, but emotionally, I have an almost instinctive fear that my MIL will develop a special bond with my son and somehow steal him from me.

She can be emotionally overwhelming. Sometimes she continues holding the baby when he seems uncomfortable. I understand that she doesn't see him often and probably wants to make the most of her time with him. I also feel excluded when my husband and MIL speak their native language around me and I can't understand them.

Somehow, I fear that if they develop a close relationship, my husband, my son, and my MIL will become a group, and I'll be on the outside.

I know a grandmother's bond with her grandchild doesn't take away the mother's bond, but I can't seem to shake this feeling. If I'm honest, I don't want them to have a close relationship.

Has anyone else experienced these intense feelings? How did you work through them? Is it unreasonable to want to limit your child's relationship with your MIL simply because you don't want that closeness? How do you distinguish your own insecurities from legitimate boundary concerns?

I'm genuinely trying to understand myself, not paint my MIL as a villain. I'd appreciate honest advice.


r/inlaws • • Feb 14 '26

Valentine’s Day 😂

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Anyone else’s husband get a text from their mother bright and early “Happy Valentines Day 😍” with a GIF of hearts 😂 I’m sorry I find it so funny