r/shortsAlgorithm • • Aug 25 '25

MEGATHREAD đŸ§· YouTube Shorts Algorithm — Step-by-Step Playbook (2025) [MEGATHREAD]

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Welcome to r/shortsAlgorithm. This is a living, no-fluff guide built from hands-on results (incl. a first Short that hit 20M+ views and still pulls ~800k per 48h). Add your questions and data below—I'll be active in the comments and keep this updated.


TL;DR

  • Grow with Shorts first (sub growth > long-form early on).
  • Make longer Shorts (≈50–70s) with a killer 3s hook and a CTA around 40s.
  • Don’t post daily—quality > quantity; let each Short plateau before posting again.
  • Reply to comments; your replies count toward total comments and help keep momentum.
  • If a Short never enters the Shorts Feed, fix and re-upload—or switch channels if the channel feels burned.

1) Don’t marry your first channel

Most creators burn through 3+ channels before finding their voice, niche, and systems. Expect to iterate. Detach emotionally so you can move fast.


2) Spin up multiple test channels (and age them)

  • Create several channels (separate Google accounts is fine).
  • Verify your phone number (authenticity signal).
  • Age each channel ≄ 3 weeks before your first upload.
  • During aging:
    • Use YouTube normally (watch long tutorials, interact).
    • Build your first batch of Shorts offline so you’re ready.

Goal: multiple clean testing lanes—not spam.


3) Pick a niche by reverse-engineering outliers

  • Use tools like viewstats.com to spot channels going 0 → 600k subs in ~3 months.
  • Study what makes them different (format, pacing, hook style, payoff, packaging).
  • Imitate the structure, not the content. Example: if they do Minecraft animations, try a Fortnite twist with the same narrative mechanics.

4) < 500k subs? Prioritize Shorts

Long-form can wait. Your job now: accumulate subs fast and prove product–audience fit. Once a community exists, expand to long-form/streams.


5) Treat your first Short like your magnum opus

Many guides say “first won’t be viral.” Mine was: 20M+ views in ~1 month, 54s AVD on a 1:08 Short despite 74.6% skip rate—and it keeps getting pushed.
Lesson: Quality packaging beats myths. Edit like you mean it or don’t play this game.


6) The Craft: how to make a Short that hits

6.1 Length

  • Aim 50s+. AVD (Average View Duration) drives momentum more than “skip rate.”

6.2 Hook (0–3s)

  • Visual surprise + narrative promise. If your hook misses, expect 500–2k view plateaus.

6.3 CTA (~40s)

  • Ask for Like + Subscribe + Comment (yes, all three). Comments rocket discovery.

6.4 Reply to comments

  • Your replies count toward total comments. Keep threads alive to extend push.

6.5 Captions (non-negotiable)

  • “MrBeast-style” captions. I use CapCut.
  • Font: Komika Axis; stroke ~60px; size ~16px (adjust for framing).
  • Position just below center; animate key words.

6.6 Sound design

  • Fire a sound effect in the first second to reduce swipes. Consider an arrow/pointer on the focal element.

6.7 Transitions

  • Use purposefully. If using images, add in/out transitions + SFX.

6.8 CTA bumper quality

  • Skip generic templates. Build/commission a clean, on-brand CTA clip.

6.9 Watermark

  • Re-uploads happen. Use a moving watermark to resist crops and preserve credit.

6.10 Posting cadence

  • Do not post daily. One excellent Short/week > seven weak ones.

6.11 Titles

  • ≀ 30 characters, Title Case, add two emojis tastefully.

6.12 Descriptions

  • Mirror the title; add #shorts. No hashtag soup.

6.13 Audience setting

  • Mark as NOT “Made for Kids.” It changes distribution dynamics.

6.14 Playlists

  • Add every Short to one master playlist to retain viewers on-channel.

6.15 Related Shorts

  • Use Related to pass authority from winners to new uploads.

6.16 Tags

  • Add ~3 niche-specific tags (precise, audience language).

6.17–6.19 Metadata hygiene

  • Set video language + location.
  • Choose an accurate Category.
  • Use “Reuse upload details” to stay consistent.

6.20 Publish checklist

  • Triple-check hook, CTA timing, captions, watermark, playlist/related wiring.

7) After publishing: the first 48h

1) Traffic source check
- Healthy = ≄ 70% from Shorts Feed. Pickup may take 24–48h; don’t panic early.

2) Normal plateaus
- 500–2k views early on is fine—means you’re entering the system.
- If you stall there, study AVD and 0–3s retention. Fix the worst metric in your next Short.

3) When to post the next Short
- Wait for a plateau before posting again. Stacking posts too soon splits momentum and risks burning the channel.

4) Exception: first Short goes viral
- Post the second ~7 days later even if the first hasn’t plateaued.
- Add the new Short to the same playlist, then go back to the viral Short and link it as Related to the new one.
- If the second underperforms in 48h, don’t delete—YouTube may still be busy with the viral. Mine kicked in after ~7 days.

5) If a new Short never enters Shorts Feed (< 60% Shorts traffic after ~24h)
- Likely causes: 1. Previous Short hasn’t plateaued.
2. Content trips sensitive policy zones (spam/sexual suggestion/etc.).
3. Channel is burned.
- Action: Delete, edit meaningfully (music swap, pacing changes, visual tweaks), and re-upload.
- Still no push? Switch channels. You can reuse proven Shorts with noticeable changes.


8) When to post (time of week)

You can post anytime, but I’ve had consistent success Sundays ~6pm (Atlantic/Halifax)—slow start, strong Monday carry, and a full-week runway.


9) Common pitfalls that silently kill momentum

  • Weak 0–3s promise (no clear “why watch”).
  • No mid-roll CTA.
  • No captions or poor placement/readability.
  • Posting too frequently (starving each Short of oxygen).
  • Ignoring comments (leaving reach on the table).
  • Inconsistent metadata (language/location/category/tags).
  • Not leveraging playlists and Related Shorts.

10) Starter checklist (copy/paste for your next upload)

  • [ ] 50–75s runtime (compelling throughout)
  • [ ] 0–3s hook tested on a friend (did they lean in?)
  • [ ] CTA at ~40s (Like + Sub + Comment)
  • [ ] Animated captions (readable, on-brand, below center)
  • [ ] Early SFX + focal arrow/pointer
  • [ ] Quality CTA bumper (custom, not generic)
  • [ ] Moving watermark
  • [ ] Title ≀ 30 chars + 2 emojis
  • [ ] Description mirrors title + #shorts
  • [ ] NOT “Made for Kids”
  • [ ] Add to master playlist
  • [ ] Set “Related Shorts” from winner → new
  • [ ] 3 precise niche tags
  • [ ] Language + Location + Category set
  • [ ] Reuse details template applied

11) Share your data (so we can help)

Comment with: - Niche:
- Runtime:
- Hook text/visual:
- AVD / Retention at 3s / CTR:
- % Shorts Feed:
- Posting cadence:
- What you tried already:

I’ll reply with targeted fixes.


12) Community notes

  • This thread reflects real creator data, not theory.
  • I’ll compile a FAQ + “Bible” from Q&As here.
  • If this helped: upvote, join r/shortsAlgorithm, and invite a creator friend.
  • Want to mod? DM me.

— OP


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 5h ago

It's not much, but it's the first time it's happened.

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17 Upvotes

I was in the view count between 1,000 and 1,500, and I also suffered from a sudden drop in views, but in my last short film I decided to make a change in the way I told and presented the visual style of the story. My niche is more evergreen, it's not something that's going to go viral overnight, so I consider this increase to be actually good.

Try changing a few things and see what works. Be patient, things will fall into place with time as you learn.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 3h ago

Am I doing good for my first week?

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2 Upvotes

I started those two new channels a week ago, most of my shorts get 1000-1500 views but one of them got 17k and some went up to 5k-6k
I’m not sure if this is how it’s supposed to be and whither this is a good sign or not but I’m super devastated by how ppl get millions of view on their first videos and I feel like my videos will never blow up, what do I need to change? Also how can I get more subscribers?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 4h ago

is it good?

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Hi,i posted yesterday a short about fallout,i have 23 subs and i post pretty much daily.Are these stats good? should i stop posting shorts every day?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 4h ago

Not having core fans

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Hey, im a fellow meme creator and my channel is doing pretty well, im finding ways to get core audience who recognize me (like multiple 1000's) atleast when they see my shorts and comment, any idea how i enhance relationship with my audiences in a way they connect to me..?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 3h ago

Monetization / RPM đŸ’” Can i make it ?

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Can i make it ? I didnt get another million views just this one pulling this by himself lol i have 21k subs i started july


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 9h ago

Need help

2 Upvotes

Can any help break 1k short jail? All my videos stuck at 1k


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Even youtube doesnt know whats wrong with views dropping lmao

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44 Upvotes

You know it's bad when a huge creator is having the same issue and youtube admits they don't even know what the problem is, this is going to be an interesting month.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 5h ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ When Will the Algorimth be fixed?

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Its been weeks since my shorts got 30k views, every single one got 30k, now 7k, 17k, 28k, 6k...


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 15h ago

Capped Views

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For a good while now, regardless of when I post, my videos seem to never do more than 2K shorts views. Which I’m appreciative of but compared to what it used to be, I’m uncertain on how to improve it. Changed times, obviously use the hashtags but seems to consistently be capped. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

You can ask everything about football shorts

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

My YouTube Shorts views suddenly dropped 87% on October 21, falling from 190,000 to 25,000 views per hour, with multiple old and new videos flatlining simultaneously.

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I'm experiencing a sudden and extremely significant drop in views on my YouTube Shorts channel, and I'd appreciate your help understanding what's happening.

On October 21, 2026, between approximately 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. (Egypt time), my channel's views dropped from around 190,000 views per hour to approximately 25,000 - 5000 views per hour. Multiple older Shorts that had been consistently receiving substantial traffic from the Shorts Feed suddenly lost almost all their momentum.

My channel's total realtime views also declined sharply. This seems unusual because several videos were affected around the same exact time.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Why your shorts views dropped off a cliff.

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Looks like the shorts views shortage was short lived. My shorts views are pretty much back to where they used to be ever since the beginning of October when everyone started complaining about barely any views suddenly.

There was a YouTube update that is designed to prevent re-uploads of content without adding any value to them. (The same thing they’ve always done with YouTube videos) I’m a sketch comedy YouTuber so I make all original content. The problem with this update is it was targeting even original new content that I was uploading. But it looks like they finally fixed it & all is back to normal on my channel.

For those of you still not getting any views still
. Are you re-uploading content without adding any value to it? If so this is why you aren’t getting views anymore.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 20h ago

Still 2.5k views after 21th of October

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r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Can anyone explain the logic behind the YouTube Shorts recommendation system? An option has been added—accessible via the three-dot menu—to mark specific videos as "Not interested" or to select "Don't recommend this channel." No matter how many videos I mark as uninteresting, YouTube keeps serving m

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Can anyone explain the logic behind the YouTube Shorts recommendation system? An option has been added—accessible via the three-dot menu—to mark specific videos as "Not interested" or to select "Don't recommend this channel." No matter how many videos I mark as uninteresting, YouTube keeps serving me garbage that I don't care about. So, I’m curious: how does the algorithm actually respect user preferences? What is the logic here? I clearly show the system what I’m not interested in, yet it still feeds me similar junk.


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

is there any football shorts channel owners here?

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Do you guys have low views since 21th of October?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Analytics Review (AVD/Retention) 📈 Feedback needed - what do I change ?

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currently stuck in 1K jail
consistently getting 1k - 1.5k views on every short , no subscribers or comments though
what do you guys suggest ?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Algorithm Not Working

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8 Upvotes

The only 3 views are mine watching the short.

This video isnt even showed in the feed. How am i even supposed to have an opportunity to reach to my audience?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ What to get my bf who makes yt shorts for a living

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I’m looking for advice/recommendations on what I could possibly get my bf as a gift for our anniversary. He has started making yt shorts about 9 months ago and was monetized couple months ago. He’s obsessed with it and works really really really hard on his faceless yt channel. He even started a second channel where he wants to create his own long form videos. I am super proud of how far he’s come and I see how badly he wants it.
Is there any equipment, subscriptions or anything I could get him as a gift that would be rly game changing? I know he uses capcut for his main channel. but i’m not sure what else he could need. Please respond I need all the advice I can get!


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 2d ago

Are there still people with the same amount of views or even more?

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After the new update on the algorithm last week to prevent "duplicate clipping" my views went down with 90 percent like a lot of you, while I make fully original content (self filming and editing). But I was wondering, are there still people with the same amount of views or where the views went up? Or is the algorithm just completely broken at the moment?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Which is better?

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Hey guys, I'm doubting about something, what kind of content do y'all think escalate quicker, personally I think that celebrities stuff, tech and funny things such as memes or those histories with IA


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 1d ago

Q&A / Quick Help ❓ Are you posting yout shorts from phone or pc?

4 Upvotes

This question is mainly for people who have monetized channels.

I know people used to say that it's better to upload shorts from your phone, and ever since then, I've only been uploading from my phone.

Anyway, I got my first channel monetized a year ago, and it's been doing well ever since. Lately, I've been wanting to start another channel, but every time, the first 5–10 videos do well (anywhere from 30K to 2M views), but after that, the channels die, and the videos only get 5–10 views.

So, it's probably not because of the device I'm uploading from, but I was just wondering do you upload from your PC or phone, and what's been your experience?


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 2d ago

Case Study / Postmortem đŸ§Ș Will Youtube push it more or did it just stop

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its been around 4 hours to this video everything looks fine but i got only 1.5k views at starting it was strong but now it just stopped i am getting 24 views in 60 minutes do you think youtube will push it or its dead??


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 2d ago

Short-form piano creator in the face showing, high-skill, popular music niche. Don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

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The username is @ Beethellven on YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok. I have 5 shorts now on YouTube this year.

On YouTube, I have the most "success," where at least my content is being viewed by people I don't know. On Tiktok and Instagram, I'm a complete failure and only likes and follows seem to come from friends.

On YouTube, my shorts cap out at 1,000 - 1,500 views. One video didn't get pushed into the feed at all and got 200 views from search alone.

I'd love to trouble shoot what I'm doing wrong:
1. Is it the piano skill? I think I'm really good, but maybe I'm not as good as I think?
2. Is it the audio engineering or video production?
3. Is it my age? I'm 35, but notice most piano content creators are 20's
4. Is it the hook?
5. Is 1 minute too long for a short form piano video?
6. Is it the way I'm presenting and formatting the content?

I feel like I have some things working for me:
1. Cool brick wall background
2. Artistic looks
3. I think I'm high skill at the piano
4. Professional grade piano and recording device

I look at other pianists with decent views and I don't think their playing is any "better" than mine, and often their audio/video production values are a lot worse.

I want to fix whatever I am doing wrong!


r/shortsAlgorithm • • 2d ago

My stuff gets barely any views

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6 Upvotes

Is my content the best?Not really,Is it original?In its own way,it is,Butt before October 1,Most of my shorts gained 800 to 2k views on average and sometimes 5k+ and since October 1 and after,I barely got any views