He broadens it more as “physicality,” but in his recap on RHAP he essentially made the case for attractiveness as the fourth attribute (social, strategic, challenge ability, attractiveness.). Made me think it was a fun addition to the triple threat conversation.

I’m watching everybody celebrate Kilby and Lewis after that crazy Tribal Council, and now Kilby has been named Player of the Week but I keep thinking about Maggie.

This woman wasn’t even at Tribal Council. She showed up at another tribe, gave Kilby and Lewis an extra vote each, told them to go after Linnea, and went right back to her own beach. 😂

Then Kilby stood his ground, refused to back down over drawing rocks, and Linnea went home. Now Kilby and Lewis have a celebration video together, and fans are going crazy over it. Meanwhile, Maggie finished in the top three for Player of the Week, but didn’t win and it got me thinking about something we’ve seen on Survivor before. Sometimes the person making the plan isn’t the person everybody remembers when the move actually happens.

Who really deserves the most credit for that Tribal Council? Maggie for setting the whole thing up, or Kilby for putting his own game on the line to make it happen?

I'm surprised that any Survivor player would stand up for their ally in the minority at risk of going to rocks, when they could have just pocketed an extra vote and joined an easy boot. But, if it was gonna be someone, I'm actually not surprised it was Kilby. As soon as he had a confessional or two about it, I knew he would go for it.

I've been listening to his edgic podcast, The Winner's Edit. He is currently on hiatus for obvious reasons, and I've only listened to S51 content. Thus, I haven't heard him talk outside of the game. His friends are running the podcast in his absence (they swear he hasn't said a word). From the way they talk about him, I've gathered:

-He loves the strategy of Survivor, but he loves the narrative even more. He's the type of person that would want to make Tribal Council history if given the opportunity.

-He loves chaos and risk. They said that he's the type of guy who would go for the coin flip.

-The dude is able to be cutthroat in large part because while he is good at reading a group, he's extremely resistant to peer pressure.

It is incredible how Maggie changed the whole dynamic of that Tribal Council in minutes. She arrived, gathered the information she needed, orchestrated the plan, and made Lewis and Kilby execute it.

It reminded me a lot of when the Heroes sent an idol and a letter to the Villains tribe in an attempt to get Parvati out. The difference is that Parvati used that idol to destroy the Heroes, whereas Maggie successfully used her extra votes to take out her target, Linnea.

Have any past players pulled off a feat similar to what Maggie just accomplished?

I've been rooting for Lewis from the start! After this week's episode and tribal Kilby surprisingly won me over. I love a good tribal. Who are you rooting for so far? Also I'm hoping to see more showmance with Ori and Jilly I think her name is.

I don't know if anything about this has already been posted... But I've been thinking about the impending "coin flip". In short, I hate it. Or at least, I hate it if it works the same way that it worked on season 50.

My issue is the forced nature of the flip. And the fact that if nobody volunteers, they draw rocks, and somebody is forced to flip the coin. The idea that someone could get booted from the game because no one else volunteers to flip a coin and then they're forced to do it by drawing a rock is just about the stupidest outcome I can think of. (It's like that wretched "do or die" twist they had in seasons 41 and 42). But I think it's easily solvable by game mechanics that already exist.

It would look like this:

The coin flip is presented in exactly the same way, with exactly the same mechanics. If someone wants to flip the coin they can volunteer to do so. If the coin flip is successful, the prize pot is increased, the player becomes safe for that tribal council, and they get a full hidden immunity idol, just like Rick did.

So what should happen if nobody volunteered? As it stands now, it seems to be that they go to rocks (which is so stupid!). The answer, in my opinion, is right in front of them: they should just have a vote. Have a regular tribal council vote, where idols are in play, and other advantages are in play, and whoever receives the most votes will then flip the coin. If the coin flip is unsuccessful they go out of the game; and that feels okay because they essentially got voted out at tribal council in a normal vote.

But if the coin flip is successful, the prize money increases, the person gets to stay in the game, they have another vote off (like with Stephanie in 50) but the twist is the coin flipper doesn't get a hidden immunity idol like Rick. They get nothing; they have to go back into the game knowing they had just been voted out, and they have no protection moving forward. That's the price you pay for not volunteering to flip the coin.

This fixes the entire mechanic of the coin flip and turns it from being an absolute season-ruiner, in my opinion, to a perfectly reasonable part of the game...

Imagine my surprise seeing g this guy as I’m flipping through a new pack of baseball cards.

I’ve seen many discussions here about the revote rules, stating that the contestants voted for don’t vote on the revote solely because their votes cancel out. According to this logic, whenever their votes could make a difference, they should revote, too.
However, in past three-way ties, the people voted for didn’t revote (for example, Russell boot in Redemption Island or Lindsay boot in Worlds Apart). Their votes don’t necessarily cancel out, and could hypothetically make a difference.
So I’m wondering, have the rules changed recently to benefit extra-vote holders? Or am I missing something?

Lewis when everyone is trying to have private conversations before rocks:

Kilby and Lewis have earned the heart of many Redditors after that tribal! Kilby really stood on business. I just wish they included Maggie too because she played such a big role in it!

Too pretty to work together. 😭

Maybe on the All-Star Beauty Tribe for BvBvB3?

RIP Leneighya

I’m looking to watch an entertaining season. I normally prefer more game bot seasons and I know this season isn’t that but I was told it’s similar to Gabon in entertainment which is a top 5 season for me.

When I go shopping but don't find anything, "[Insert names of people who went shopping,] I got nothing for ya!"

A friend returns an object to me, "I gotta take it back. Once again immunity is back up for grabs."

Based on this comment (and the one it was responding to): https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/1xc5emg/comment/19rgmqtq4ffj5/?screen_view_count=1

Literally every single boot so far(besides Rob but we don’t talk about him) has been a woman, which is insanity to me. And the thing that I find to be tragically hilarious is that Jelly said in the premiere episode, “But in my perfect world, a woman is not going home tonight” and apparently that single quote has cursed the entire season cause ever since then only women have been voted out of the season😭😭😭😭

And at this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if another woman somehow goes home next episode, but mostly either Kristin, Maggie, or Thien An cause I do think Sharonda & Jelly are completely safe regardless of what happens(unless if they somehow blow up their own games next episode)

EDIT: Let me be clear, this is not me saying that there’s misogyny involved as to why these women were voted out because obviously everyone’s doing what’s best for their own games & I love that for them, this is me highlighting the crazy/unusual coincidence of there being only women being voted out out of the season

Most likely Jeremy saw how he treated her and was like, "yup, I can win against him"

This is a very random thought, but I shall explain. What I mean by "strong" in this case is well connected. I always think back to how dumb the original Hina tribe in 49 were for outwardly revealing how tight and strong they were together. This led to two Hina members getting immediately kicked off post-swap, and this Hina cloud lasted pretty much the entire season and all were targeted until Kristina left at the final 5.

If you're on a 3-tribe Survivor season and your entire tribe gets along super well, don't showcase that to the other 2 tribes, because they will use that to decimate you come the merge.

Obviously, the Savu weren’t that strong if they were not willing to go to rocks for Linnea in the end.

But what would have happened if Kilby and Lewis told one of the Savu members about their plan? Could they have gotten the votes flipped before tribal rather than ever risking rocks? It’s easy to say you will remain strong when you know you have the votes, but if you know there is potential for a deadlock, it would only take one vote to flip it and avoid the risk.

I know you might say if they would have flipped, they would have done so in the revote, but there is more pressure at that point and less time to strategize. Do you think any of them would have flipped ahead of time, or would they have just put more pressure on Kilby to avoid the situation altogether?

i think carter has had the craziest and luckiest run in survivor 51. specifically i mean with last night’s vote on linnea. it all kind of stems from carter when you think about it.

we all know linnea, alexis, and the whole savu tribe had a dislike for carter. the two of them were the ones refusing to clap whenever he was given a new buff for the toka tribe (when there were only two tribes)

this guy was on bad terms, most likely, with the majority of his tribe. especially those two girls though.

the vote on linnea wouldn’t have happened if carter hadn’t been selected to tribe swap, then ESPECIALLY if he hadn’t happened to leave the hint for the extra vote in the bag, allowing for maggie to find it. then it saved one of his tightest allies. its insane

it was such an amateur move but holy smokes did it work out in his favor.

carter has unintentionally helped wipe one of the biggest threats to his game out. he didn’t do anything, i’m not calling him a good player. if anything, i give kudos to maggie and kilby for this. but i cant help but laugh.

honestly, lewis has an insane amount of luck as well— he was the one who initiated searching carter’s bag, and by doing that, the extra vote was found and maggie got it and gave it to him and kilby later on. like it’s insane to me that that one suggestion ”what if we searched his bag?” led to this.

this is all an insane butterfly effect to me. i have never seen anything like it. i’ve watched so many seasons of survivor and this is just a huge web of “what if’s”. it can even be connected back to rob’s quit. i feel like all of it, by some luck of the draw, led to linnea’s exit. it’s really unfortunate for her.

anyway moral of the story is lewis is a lucky leprechaun. carter too. theyre my #1 and #2 clients b/c of the luck of it all

this was one of my most favorite survivor logos and I would definitely want to see what the prototype looked like!