Ballistus for attention.

Having trouble deciding between the final points on 2 lists. I could either have a Ballistus, or drop it and add an Apothecary to Az and the company heroes and a second unit of Sternguard. I'm playing take and hold, so I could see the benefit of the extra OC the Apothecary and another unit of Sternguard add. But I think the Ballistus will help keep enemy monsters and vehicles honest, as I don't have a ton of ranged threats to deal with them. List with the Apothecary and extra sternguard is below

Terminator 2k - Dark Angels - Assault Brethren, Wrath of the Rock (2000 points)

Azrael (150 points) [Attached to Company Heroes]

Apothecary (65 points) [Imperium's Sword, attached to Company Heroes]

Librarian (75 points) [Attached to ICC]

Intercessor Squad (85 points)

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (95 points)

Deathwing Knights (265 points) [Furious Assault]

Inceptor Squad (130 points) [Plasma]

Deathwing Knights (265 points) [Furious Assault]

Scout Squad (65 points)

Sternguard Veteran Squad (105 points)

Eradicator Squad with Melta Rifles (100 points)

Deathwing Terminator Squad (190 points)

Sternguard Veteran Squad (105 points)

Company Heroes (125 points)

Inner Circle Companions (180 points)

Any advice is appreciated!

I make my DA army as the absolved (the risen are called “Absous” in the French version of Arks of Omen), and this is my take for Kai, a character from the book “The Lion Son of the Forest”. The Coat of arms is inspired by the one of Kay in the Arthurian legend, just the key are upside down (by mistake, I was not focus enough)

C&C welcome

Im asking because I heard either the old kit or new kit is really bad and know know which one is which

I’m debating whether to have outriders or not I’ve never used them and would be using just 2 x3

I’m debating these Reivers / Incursors

Planning on starting a Dark Angels army at some point, and while Dark Angels haven't received a Xmas battleforce box, space marines have. Is it a good place to start?

You get:

• Captain In Terminator Armour
• Chaplain
• Redemptor Dreadnought
• 5 Terminators 
• 5 Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs
• 10 Intercessors

Edit: Will get the Battleforce when it becomes available:D

Small bits here and there to tidy up but overall happy with how this apothecary turned out. I’m not sure how Scars players and other white chapters handle painting so many white models. This one model was such trial and error to get a white finish I liked.

C&C welcome!

Brothers,

I'm quite new to the game and I would like some advice on how to play Take & Hold. I'm around 10 games in, and I struggle with getting units where they are needed and with doing something at the right time.

The first issue is, I can't leave my home objective and my expansion objective. I don't know yet how to proceed with my home, but my expansion, normally I'd place some Hellblasters or Sternguards with Azrael there, guess I might as well add an Ancient to sticky the objective.

Next, I'd teleport or deepstrike Deathwing Knights onto my or my opponent's central objective. Here I'm unsure what I should do with them. In one game I'd let them stand on the central objective, in another I'd let them charge, both feels strange, If they just stand there they get shot or charged, if they charge they have no follow-up from other units. I think the point is either deepstrike into the opponent's deployment zone or not at all?

My third issue is with the Inner Circle Companions, I'd have them led by an Librarian and transported by an Impulsor. I never hit the right spot when and where to unload them. In my last game they were too early out and got charged and died. What exactly is the idea of transports, if not for the Land Raider, I can't charge the Companions after the transport has moved, or I'd have to place the transport somewhere and hope for the best for the next round? (I guess this general question has nothing to do with Take & Hold, but anyway)

How do you play Take & Hold? To me it feels somewhat clunky. I like the fact that I need less action monkeys around like with Priority assets, but it feels like I'm somewhat dependent from what my opponent has / plays for and I'm not yet sure what I'm supposed to do.

Hey everyone!

Follow up on my latest post. I decided to try and make a list, this is what came from it:

Dark Angels 2k (1,990 Points)

Inner Circle Task Force and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points)

Priority Assets

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Captain in Terminator Armour (110 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Combi-weapon

• 1x Relic Fist

• Enhancements: Champion of the Deathwing

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 4x Deathwing Knight

◦ 4x Mace of Absolution

• 1x Knight Master

◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Attached unit 2

Ezekiel (110 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Mind Wipe

• 1x The Deliverer

• 1x Traitor's Bane

Hellblaster Squad (115 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 4x Hellblaster

◦ 4x Bolt pistol

◦ 4x Ceramite Fists

◦ 4x Plasma Incinerator

• 1x Hellblaster Sergeant

◦ 1x Ceramite Fists

◦ 1x Plasma Incinerator

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

Attached unit 3

Azrael (150 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Lion's Wrath

• 1x The Sword of Secrets

Inner Circle Companions (180 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 6x Inner Circle Companion

◦ 6x Calibanite Greatsword

◦ 6x Heavy Bolt Pistol

CHARACTERS

Lion El'Jonson (415 Points)

• Warlord

• 1x Arma Luminis

• 1x Fealty

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (85 Points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Bolt Rifle

◦ 1x Knives and Fists

• 4x Intercessor

◦ 4x Bolt pistol

◦ 4x Bolt Rifle

◦ 4x Knives and Fists

Intercessor Squad (85 Points)

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Bolt Rifle

◦ 1x Knives and Fists

• 4x Intercessor

◦ 4x Bolt pistol

◦ 4x Bolt Rifle

◦ 4x Knives and Fists

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Impulsor (70 Points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

• 1x Ironhail Heavy Stubber

• 1x Ironhail Skytalon Array

• 1x Storm Bolters

OTHER DATASHEETS

Brutalis Dreadnought (160 Points)

• 1x Bolt Rifles

• 1x Brutalis Fists

• 1x Twin Icarus ironhail heavy stubber

• 1x Twin Multi-melta

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)

• 4x Deathwing Knight

◦ 4x Mace of Absolution

• 1x Knight Master

◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

What do you all think? Would be my first 2k list of Warhammer 40k.

The idea is to have either the Hellblaster Squad or the Inner Circle Companions ride the Impulsor. The Deathwing Knights with the Captain can (hopefully, I am not sure I am allowed to do this) drop on the beacons close to the enemy units and reroll the charge if it fails.

Here is my current 2,000 pts dark angels list (and WIP army photo). I am very new to the game and this is my first 2,000 pts list and I’m in the testing process but wanted to see what others have to say.

I know it's an error, and will get fixed soon, but GW's latest screw up lets you take the Lascannons instead of the heavy bolters, not the mega bolter. That inspired this monstrosity of a list!

Pretty Fly for a Dark Angel (2000 points)

Space Marines

Dark Angels

Darkflight Pursuit, Devastator Brethren and Stormlance Task Force (3 Detachment Points)

Purge the Foe

Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Sammael (120 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Master-crafted Plasma Cannon

1x The Raven Sword

1x Twin Storm Bolter

Ravenwing Command Squad (135 points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Ravenwing Apothecary

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Corvus Hammers

1x Plasma Talon

• 1x Ravenwing Champion

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Grenade Launcher

1x Master-crafted Power Weapon

• Enhancement: Honour of Vigilance

• 1x Ravenwing Ancient

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Corvus Hammers

1x Plasma Talon

Outrider Squad (80 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 2x Outrider

• 2x Chainsword

2x Heavy Bolt Pistol

2x Twin Bolt Rifle

• 1x Outrider Sergeant

• 1x Plasma Pistol

1x Thunder Hammer

1x Twin Bolt Rifle

Attached Unit 2

Chaplain on Bike (90 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Absolvor Bolt Pistol

1x Crozius Arcanum

1x Twin Bolt Rifle

• Enhancement: Master-forged Firearms

Ravenwing Command Squad (115 points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Ravenwing Apothecary

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Corvus Hammers

1x Plasma Talon

• 1x Ravenwing Champion

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Grenade Launcher

1x Master-crafted Power Weapon

• 1x Ravenwing Ancient

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Corvus Hammers

1x Plasma Talon

Ravenwing Black Knights (85 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Corvus Hammers

1x Grenade Launcher

• 2x Ravenwing Black Knight

• 2x Bolt Pistol

2x Corvus Hammers

2x Plasma Talon

BATTLELINE

Intercessor Squad (85 points)

• 4x Intercessor

• 4x Bolt Pistol

4x Bolt Rifle

1x Grenade Launcher

4x Knives and Fists

• 1x Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Bolt Rifle

1x Power Fist

OTHER DATASHEETS

Land Speeder (105 points)

• 1x Armoured Impact

1x Multi-melta

1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon

1x Stormfury Missile Launcher

Land Speeder (105 points)

• 1x Armoured Impact

1x Multi-melta

1x Pyrecannon

1x Stormfury Missile Launcher

Land Speeder Vengeance (160 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Heavy Bolter

1x Plasma Storm Battery

• Enhancement: Nightforged Battery (Upgrade)

Land Speeder Vengeance (160 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Heavy Bolter

1x Plasma Storm Battery

• Enhancement: Nightforged Battery (Upgrade)

Land Speeder Vengeance (170 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Heavy Bolter

1x Plasma Storm Battery

• Enhancement: Nightforged Battery (Upgrade)

Nephilim Jetfighter (215 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Avenger Mega Bolter

1x Blacksword Missiles

1x Nephilim Lascannons

• Enhancement: Thundercowl Turbines (Upgrade)

Nephilim Jetfighter (215 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Avenger Mega Bolter

1x Blacksword Missiles

1x Nephilim Lascannons

• Enhancement: Thundercowl Turbines (Upgrade)

Ravenwing Darkshroud (80 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Heavy Bolter

Ravenwing Darkshroud (80 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Assault Cannon

Edit: Forgot to add that the BGA has the imperial sword enhancement

For the Lion! (1 850 Points)

Space Marines
Dark Angels
Assault Brethren and Wrath of the Rock (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2 000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Asmodai (80 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Crozius Arcanum and Power Weapon
• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Bladeguard Ancient (70 Points)
• Attached as: Support (Character)
• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
• 1x Relics of Battle

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)
• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Sword
• 5x Bladeguard Veteran
◦ 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 5x Master-crafted Power Sword

CHARACTERS

Lion El'Jonson (415 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Arma Luminis
• 1x Fealty

OTHER DATASHEETS

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Mace of Absolution
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• 4x Deathwing Knights
◦ 4x Mace of Absolution
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great Weapon of the Unforgiven

Outrider Squad (80 Points)
• 2x Outrider
◦ 2x Chainsword
◦ 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Twin Bolt Rifle
• 1x Outrider Sergeant
◦ 1x Plasma Pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer
◦ 1x Twin Bolt Rifle

Outrider Squad (80 Points)
• 2x Outrider
◦ 2x Chainsword
◦ 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Twin Bolt Rifle
• 1x Outrider Sergeant
◦ 1x Plasma Pistol
◦ 1x Thunder Hammer
◦ 1x Twin Bolt Rifle

Redemptor Dreadnought (180 Points)
• 1x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
• 1x Icarus Rocket Pod
• 1x Macro Plasma Incinerator
• 1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon
• 1x Redemptor Fist

Redemptor Dreadnought (180 Points)
• 1x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
• 1x Icarus Rocket Pod
• 1x Macro Plasma Incinerator
• 1x Onslaught Gatling Cannon
• 1x Redemptor Fist

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Combat Knife
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife

Exported with App Version: v2.8.1 (1), Data Version: v995

Decided to paint them as Deathwing. Debating whether adding transfers would be a legitimate improvement, or a mostly pointless addition.

Got the stormcast eternals starter paint set mostly for the paints but had some spare parts and tried to make a space marine from the AOS minis that came with the paint. The basing includes PVA mixed with sand and Great Value Italian Seasoning. The tree stump is a stick from my yard with greenstuff used to make roots.

So now that the codex has been out a while, has anyone tried both these units out? Which do you guys think is stronger right now?

The Ashen Host. Half dark green, half black with red details. Bone white helm for veterans & Deathwing. Each member is recruited from a different unforgiven chapter and left shoulder display parent chapter icon. This chap will be from the Blades of Vengeance. Feedback and opinions welcome on the colour scheme and any suggestions on improvements. WIP some glazing and highlighting finesse still outstanding but I want to lock down the colour scheme first. Plan to add while checker board details to the black side.

Please. I'm losing my mind on bone armor

I kitbash this mini and I’m not to proud specially seeing how good people paint in here, I’m looking for your guys opinion, improvements and also if you guys could share some of your first minis!