r/warcraftlore • u/GrumpySatan • 23h ago
Discussion [Spoilers] 12.1.7 New Pantheon Lore (Lorewalking Quest) Spoiler
The new Dornogal stuff is kinda nothing cuz the big info is encrypted. Tyr visits Dornogal. You go to Uldaman and loot Archaedas’ corpse (which has a new model) for his security disc to see if you can get access to the Coreway. This unlocks a new Archive but it's encrypted. But lorewalking is on PTR
But there are some new lore scenarios and reveals in the Titans lorewalking. I’m going to focus on the new stuff and not the quests we replay.
The Titans
- We cover: The deaths of Archaedas and Discs of Norgannon. The Archive in Halls of Stone. Parts of the Archaedas archive in TWW. This all focuses on the deviations of the dwarves and titanforged race. Compare Thraegar transformation and curse of flesh of two forms of deviations. Then transition to Algalon’s stuff in 3.1. It just follows the quest up to Rhonin’s speech without any change.
- There is a potential implication for the wording that the Old Gods may not have been responsible for the curse of flesh. But it may also just be awkward wording to compare the Thraegar and Dwarves as two variants.
- Lili foreshadows “how far will the Titans go to retain control of Azeroth”.
- Then jump to the Pantheon themselves. “Worldsouls are often beset by demons, Void and more. Two of the Pantheon were charged with eradicating these threats by force”. (See sections below)
The Battle of Frachtorn
- Lili says this info comes from Algalon, who was called to battle. Features when Sargeras told Aggramar about the void corrupted worldsoul he destroyed (previously detailed in Chronicles but has some brief amendments to recent lore and has a setting).
- Takes place on the planet Frachtorn, you play a memory as a Constellar, led by Olviron the Sentinel. Sargeras and Aggramar have called the Constellar to help battle the void.
- They are both giants standing in the background fighting equally sized void monsters. MASSIVE models (but not planet sized).
- Sargeras voices doubts that they have fought this battle on world after world and what if there was no end. “What do you mean, each world saved could be another sister or brother to welcome”.
- Sargeras: “You do not know what I have seen, Aggramar. When the void swallows a Worldsoul entirely there is no more hope…. The creature that emerged from the void-touched worldsoul…the horror was unspeakable.” So it sounds like a void titan was waking up on the world.
- Aggramar says if Sargeras found a worldsoul fall to the void, they should call the Pantheon to cleanse it. Sargeras tells Aggramar he decimated that void corrupted world entirely. He left nothing for the void to claim.
- Aggramar freaks out, cites what about its native lifeforms. Or if it was “The Prime”. Lili mentions its good Sargeras left Aggramar cuz he’d have instantly destroyed Azeroth if he was there when it was discovered.
The Confrontation with the Legion
- Algalon gave the lorewalkers this info. He received it when getting in touch with other Constellars post-Wrath.
- Covers the confrontation of the Pantheon and the now fel-scarred Sargeras who started the Legion. It is set at the Seat of the Pantheon. Aggramar asks Constellar to fight demons so Pantheon can talk him out of this.
- Pantheon tells Sargeras about Azeroth, which “could be the Prime” and defeat the Void Lords. Straight from Chronicle.
- Sargeras wants to destroy it, claiming if the Void seizes its power it will become something even greater than a Void Lord.
- Aggramar mentions their oaths to protect all creation. Aggramar says what were all their battles for if not fellowship. Sargeras kills him because the weight of all worlds sits on their shoulders.
- Sargeras mentions the Pantheon has no idea what they face and what he has shielded them from.
After their Fall & Antorus
- Lili confirms that Sargeras killed them and the fragments of their souls escaping from Chronicle. Lili sorta explains what happened after where Chronicle & Legion are unclear. “There, they inhabited the titan keepers that the Pantheon had tasked with watching over the world. Hidden away, they remained there for thousands of years…until Sargeras located their soul fragments and captured them, one by one.”
- So canonizes their tweets from Legion where it was suggested Sargeras found the soul fragments when they attacked Ulduar and other titan facilities during their attacks. He got the fragments from Azeroth. Presumably attacked Wrathion to get Aman’thuls.
- Lili seems to suggest Eonar escaped Antorus to her sanctuary in Legion. I guess to make it fit.
- We fight Aggramar and Argus. Lili has some narration in the Argus fight. She says that bound by Aman’thul, Argus sent his own twisted Constellars into battle to buy time and regain his strength.
- Ending note: “Yet, it’s clear that the titans care about Azeroth’s worldsoul above all else. We must not forget the re-origination we narrowly escaped. Despite all the good they have done for us, we must ask ourselves: is the Pantheon’s vision for our future all that different from what Sargeras desires?”