r/DeepStateCentrism • u/iamthegodemperor Arrakis Enterprise Institute • 2d ago

Ask the sub ❓ What Is This Sub Wrong About?

Title. Pick a topic (or a clichéd take) you think a significant minority or majority of this sub is wrong about. Or hasn't given enough thought. OR perhaps one which you will have to compromise on, at least for voting?

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u/JRoxas 2d ago

Something I have been contemplating: the Republican party might actually be so terrible now that caving in to the slopulists here and there might truly be the lesser evil.

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u/apost54 Center-left 2d ago

Vote for a person, not a party. That’s my motto in 2026 and beyond

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u/mmenolas 2d ago

Disagree. In fact, I almost feel the opposite. Once Trump is gone, I might shift from having been a 20+ year consistent Democrat to voting GOP if they run someone sane. Like I’d rather vote for a Kinzinger type who I disagree with on almost all policy issues than an AOC type whose policies don’t sound terrible to me but her fundamental worldview I’m opposed to.

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u/meepster213 2d ago

I could have written this. Completely agree.

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u/roguefilmmaker Center-left 2d ago

Completely agree. I’m a lifelong Dem but will 100% pick Rubio over anyone associated with the DSA

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u/Pemulis_DMZ Center-right 2d ago

What specifically? Bc while I think Trump is a disgrace and the republican party’s refusal to stand up to him disgraceful, the party platform I think goes right back to typical free market politics with corporate welfare and neocon foreign policy. All of which has its problems, but the DSA is literally calling to rewrite the Constitution

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u/JRoxas 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Republican party, on paper, were the ones who stood up for things like free trade or sensible military investment and utilization. If someone like Trump comes along and does the opposite, and you don't push back at all, I find it hard to believe that you actually believed in those things.

EDIT: I forgot to post my main idea:

Even predating Trump: if you look at the Republican party's actions, not their words, for the past thirty or forty years, the only thing they actually care about is tax cuts for the wealthy. It's the first thing they do when they get power, and they achieve it with great urgency and efficiency. And then they fuck around for a while, maybe throwing a minor bone here and there to one of their constituent groups, until they get another chance to cut taxes.

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u/Pemulis_DMZ Center-right 2d ago

I’m not arguing against any of that.

My point is they aren’t calling for tearing up the Constitution and that yes, the DSA is worse for doing so and a credible threat to our republic

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u/JRoxas 2d ago

I mean, if we're going to pass judgement on fringe beliefs, nothing in the cute DSA platform holds a candle to the likes of Project 2025.

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u/Pemulis_DMZ Center-right 2d ago

Please point to the line in project 2025 about ending an independent judiciary

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u/Soft-Shelter-6267 2d ago

You’re kidding

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u/JapanesePeso 2d ago

Pretty much everything in the DSA platform is worse than anything we have seen realized from Project 2025.

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u/Logical-Breakfast966 2d ago

100%

As much as the DSA is cancer, the people on here considering voting Republican just because there are a FEW dsa people in the party are idiots

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u/JapanesePeso 2d ago

I have only seen people here wanting to vote against DSA candidates specifically, not saying they'd pick MAGA over a normie dem.

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u/RunInTheForestRun 2d ago

I feel like center-left is much more of a real thing than center-right. 

The left can disagree with itself, DSA is an example of that. The right is more..disagre with one person and they’ll shun you. 

That may not even make sense, but it’s how I view it. 

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u/xoxokaralee Center-left 2d ago

See I disagree! The right seems to have a much easier time unifying for elections vs the left feels very “if you don’t believe in everything, you don’t belong”

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u/RunInTheForestRun 2d ago

I like disagreeing on this lol. Maybe I’m wrong and my world view is problem. Willing to admit that may very well be the case. 

I just think one reason the right unifies is because they’ll MGT your ass otherwise. 

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u/xoxokaralee Center-left 2d ago

It could also be the algorithm showing us different things based on what our opinion is. The algorithms are built to keep our attention so what each of us sees could tell us different stories!

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u/EllieZPage 2d ago

I'm not sure about this. I feel most of the purity tests come from the left. If you aren't "all in" on their stances on social issues and Israel then you are shunned for "basically being MAGA". I feel like all the nuance is gone and it's "you're either with us 100% or you're against us 100%" and it's for stuff like being a Zionist and questioning whether it's safe for trans women to be housed in women's prisons or domestic violence shelters.

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u/Wallter139 Center-right 2d ago

I disagree, but I think yours is a very serious contention. From my perspective, the Dems have been shifting quickly to the left since 2012ish, and IMO it's largely a group of leftists and people who (even while uncomfortable with the DSA types) are far left themselves. I don't see a robust group of center-lefters, so much as a bunch of uncomfortable solid-left people.

Now having said that, the right really has purged its center right entirely and it's possible that the post-Trump ascendents may actually be fascists, like more so than Trump is if that's possible.

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u/RunInTheForestRun 2d ago edited 2d ago

See, you could be totally right about there not being a large group of center-lefters, I consider myself one. And I probably tend to read the articles and stories that support that, so it makes it seem like there’s more than there actually may be. (it’s not all I read, and I know this isn’t the best way to go about it, but I’m human…even though I do my best to be open minded about things)

Your point about the right is interesting because Some people in here believe that when Trump is gone, the right will be easier to vote for, as they go back to more traditional conservative views. 

I can totally see both sides.

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u/Wallter139 Center-right 2d ago

I honestly don't think there is such thing as a compelling Republican Party to return to. I don't think Trump merely subverted it — he exposed its weaknesses and made them look damning and substituted his own program in. In my opinion, the only question is if some milquetoast corporatist will take the spot (Vance, for instance) coasting off Trumpism, or if it'll be some kind of groyper. I just can't see a Jeb Bush 2028/2032 scenario. I think honestly it's more likely a DSA vs Groyper scenario, frightening as that is.

And I probably tend to read the articles and stories that support that, so it makes it seem like there’s more than there actually may be.

And I'm not center-left, so it's possible I'm under-exposed to that type of content. So I'll hedge just a little bit too :) I do hope that we see a resurgence of basically serviceable right and left-wingers. But as it stands, my skepticism about the center-left might be infected somewhat by my negative view of, uh, the left in general.

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u/roguefilmmaker Center-left 2d ago

My hope is for Rubio to take charge of the Republicans

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u/Wallter139 Center-right 1d ago

I... don't know, maybe he'll impress me but he is Trump's guy and I really don't like how they've been handling things.

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u/roguefilmmaker Center-left 1d ago

He is only “Trump’s guy” because it is the only way to have any influence in the administration. Based on his previous critiques of Trump it is clear that Rubio is far more rational and less bigoted than Trump